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Bethesda registers Fallout 4 trademark

About time =)

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That would be because you are the only person that thinks this.

The DLC is absolutely worse. Nothing as good as Point Lookout, and Dead Money is significantly more awful that the 'bad' Fallout 3 DLC.

Music is worse too; boring western stuff.

Though New Vegas does have better companions and more and greater variety of quests.
 
I wouldn't be so sure. If we're only getting the first announcement in Dec 2013, we can estimate the release date to realistically be anywhere between Dec 2014-June 2015 (or even possibly longer). If it's towards the end of that time period I could definitely see this new game being next-gen only.

actually they announce skyrim at the VGA 2010 released 11/11/2011

so 1 year
 
The DLC is absolutely worse. Nothing as good as Point Lookout, and Dead Money is significantly more awful that the 'bad' Fallout 3 DLC.

Music is worse too; boring western stuff.

Though New Vegas does have better companions and more and greater variety of quests.
"Boring western stuff"
Western it's New Vegas theme throughout, they are not there for nothing. And the soundtrack is amazing, same goes for the VO, which is one of the best in modern videogames.

Also, Dead Money is absolutely the best New Vegas DLC and one of the best survival-horror experience around.
 
That would be because you are the only person that thinks this.
He certainly isn't. NV made me utterly hate Obsidian. At least Bethesda's games, while bugged, still work. The 360 version of NV was utterly broken. Really liked the game but at some point I just had enough of it - and mind you I finished Oblivon, Fallout 3 and Skyrim. Never again Obsidian.
 
He certainly isn't. NV made me utterly hate Obsidian. At least Bethesda's games, while bugged, still work. The 360 version of NV was utterly broken. Really liked the game but at some point I just had enough of it - and mind you I finished Oblivon, Fallout 3 and Skyrim. Never again Obsidian.

Wow I had no problems with New Vegas on my 360, but I had MASSIVE problems with the GOTY FO3 on my ps3, was virtually unplayable because it froze so often. I'm replaying NV again on the PC and it's such a good game
 
The DLC is absolutely worse. Nothing as good as Point Lookout, and Dead Money is significantly more awful that the 'bad' Fallout 3 DLC.

Music is worse too; boring western stuff.

Though New Vegas does have better companions and more and greater variety of quests.

Say whaaaat

Dead Money is amazing. Great atmosphere, a true change of pacing, and a well written story. The only DLC I wasn't too hot on was Lonesome Road and that's less because it's shitty and more because I wanted something different than what Obsidian intended. Not liking westerns is cool tho since not every genre is for everyone.
 
Fallout & Fallout 2 are still the best games ever made, to this day they haven't been topped.

As far as the recent games, they both are poisoned with Gamebryo, but Fallout 3 is especially crippled by Bethesda's notoriously dreadful writing and overall amateurish presentation.

Fallout: New Vegas was a marked improvement but still a far cry from the glory days. Obsidian did a great job with the humor and atmosphere, and for that I salute them.

Conclusion: in order for Fallout 4 to be any good it has to ditch both Gamebryo in its current state and whatever Bethesda development team that managed to kneecap Fallout 3.
 
There was a leak some months ago showing all the logos of the third party developers that were bringing some sort of exclusivity, whether it was content or timed content to the platform. I'll see if I can find the thread.

This is the list.

Activision Blizzard
Atlus
Bethesda Games
Bluepoint Games
Bungie
Capcom
Disney Interactive
EA
Insomniac Games
Konami
Level-5
Nordic Games
Rockstar Games
Sanzaru Games
Sega
Square Enix
Sumo Digital
Take-Two
Ubisoft
Warner Bros.
Zindagi Games
 
The DLC is absolutely worse. Nothing as good as Point Lookout, and Dead Money is significantly more awful that the 'bad' Fallout 3 DLC.

Music is worse too; boring western stuff.

Though New Vegas does have better companions and more and greater variety of quests.
I dunno, I thought Old World Blues was amazing. I had a lot of fun with that one. And Lonesome Road as well, though it was a bit linear compared to OWB.

I agree about Dead Money, though. I thought it was a real chore to play through.
 
How they can make good use of the 8 GB DDR5.

Come on Bethesda, fix the load times, the bugs and the empty overworld ! No more excuses possible this time.
 
So will this be the first game they'll release on id's new game engine? Is that engine even ready? Last I heard it was still a mess, but that was months ago.
 
I hope they learned a few things from New Vegas. At the very least I would like to play a more morally decrepit character without still ultimately having to save the world.
 
So will this be the first game they'll release on id's new game engine? Is that engine even ready? Last I heard it was still a mess, but that was months ago.

Just because Zenimax trademarked the name for the new id engine doesn't necessarily mean BGS will use it for their next game.
 
Will it have a new engine?... please thats all I ask... no more Gamebryo

While I agree with this sentiment, expect Gamebryo. Gamebryo is all the Bethesda devs have known for more than a decade now. Of course there's also the chance we may see them use idtech5 or something more custom. Though if they are still targeting 360/PS3, I doubt they'll be using anything other than Gamebryo, which brings me to my next point.

It is absolutely critical that Bethesda finally leave behind the 360/PS3 for a Fallout sequel. Those platforms are the bottleneck, regardless of the engine, and this was clear to most - especially PS3 players - way back in 2010, with the release of New Vegas. DLC for NV and Skyrim only made that clearer. It's either these 7 and 8 year old machines are no longer capable of supporting developer aspirations for these games or their aspirations simply aren't wildly divergent enough. It's about time we see some crazy shit in these types of open world RPGs, be it through visuals, mechanics, or whatever. If Fallout 4 were to release on the last generation of consoles, the game will be exponentially unimpressive.

Bethesda: Wait to release when there are millions more Xbones and PS4s out there if you must, but PC sales and their longevity have only improved in the last several years. Please don't compromise your vision in order to release on decade old technology.
 
So will this be the first game they'll release on id's new game engine? Is that engine even ready? Last I heard it was still a mess, but that was months ago.

idTech 5 had been in works even before Rage came out which was idTech 4. In reality they just have some research and development computer scientist constantly working on idTech, and they fork it and number it when its ready to be the baseline on a game.

It seems they may need to fix up mega textures, but I doubt its the mess your thinking it is. Sort of how source has a bunch of smaller periodic updates, iD jus decides to name them at milestones.
 
Can't believe people want this to remain on 360 and PS3.

This is Fallout 4. To do it justice it HAS to be PC/One/PS4. By the time it releases it'll be plenty of time to get your hands on any one of those 3 methods of playing it.
 
I dont understand why NV (at least on gaf) is praised so much more than 3.
In my opinion, NV had...
-boring quests
-worse music
-worse DLC
-companions weren't as good as 3
-the Vegas Strip was lame

+but the guns and combat were largely improved

IMO

Because that's your opinion.

I prefer NV in every way over 3. 3 was great because it was new and fresh but NV did everything 3 did much better.
 
If this gets released in 2014, expect a Creation Engine cross-gen game. Basically the Skyrim engine with a high-res texture pack on PC/PS4/xbone.

I like both F3 and NV. But I have to say, even though they run on the same engine, F3 looks so much better. You can tell NV was rushed. Some of the cave interiors and buildings look downright ugly.
 
Can't believe people want this to remain on 360 and PS3.

This is Fallout 4. To do it justice it HAS to be PC/One/PS4. By the time it releases it'll be plenty of time to get your hands on any one of those 3 methods of playing it.

Because not everyone can afford a PS4 or Xbone.

Plus, wouldn't it make sense to get as much money as possible by sending it to [almost] every platform?
 
Bethesda released a next-gen only Oblivion only 5 months after the launch of the 360.

I don't think they're going to do cross-gen. It'll be PC, XBO, and PS4.
 
To all the people saying Bethesda vs Obsidian:

Bethesda doesn't need Obsidian. They just need their writers.

Don't get me wrong, I loved NV but ignoring the story, the gameplay was only superior because they copied every popular mod available (while adding a ton of bugs more) and that's something that Bethesda can also do.

Anyway... HYPE!
 
Bethesda released a next-gen only Oblivion only 5 months after the launch of the 360.

I don't think they're going to do cross-gen. It'll be PC, XBO, and PS4.

In addition to this, Bethesda games (to my knowledge) have pretty great legs and tend to be semi-phenomena in that people keep buying them well after release, followed by GOTY editions with all the DLC and such.

Bethesda Game Studios is also infrequent when it comes to game releases, so they're likely to ride off Fallout 4 for two or three years until their next game rolls around.
 
To all the people saying Bethesda vs Obsidian:

Bethesda doesn't need Obsidian. They just need their writers.

Unfortunately, that is not bound to happen.

Normally I just ignore atrocious writing in video games because its so ubiquitous. But with Fallout, there just has to be a solid script.
 
I love both Fallout 3/NV and played through them 100% no matter how much of a buggy mess it became over time. Something charming to me about weird Fallout bugs. I am odd though
 
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