NonPhixion
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Bethesda sunsetting the Bethesda.net launcher and moving to Steam
- Thread starter ManaByte
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Microsoft isn’t giving up a 30% cut. No way it’s negotiated any higher than 20%.
worldwithpyramids
Member
Good. That launcher always forgets my log-in even if I tell it to remember and open it again immediately after exiting.
Calling 911 Melts Beams
Banned
Buggy Loop
Member
Laptop1991
Member
Good decision, i didn't like the launcher, it was just a store anyway and it used more memory than all of the other launchers with no benefit's, Bethesda is better on Steam only for me like Skyrim and New Vegas days. and obviously, their launcher wasn't being used much.
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manfestival
Member
This is great news to me. Never liked using the thing but I used it because I got good deals on Doom stuff.
PuffyCan
Member
They are literally giving steam free money:
Can't make any sense of this move when you take into account they'll have access to the battle.net launcher next year, and they already have the xbox / ms store. Only advantage I can see is the mod support build into steam... Hope it's not a sign of Valve being acquired
squarealex
Member
no pls
GymWolf
Member
Next step is letting me use steam to play game on pc gamepass so i can avoid to use their incredibly rotten store.
Andodalf
Banned
It's probably a really simple deal. If MS puts previously non steam games on steam, they get a better cut from all their games on steam.
sainraja
Member
I like Battle.net better than Steam as well. Steam is due an update.
Maiden Voyage
Gold™ Member
Zathalus
Member
Yes and yes.
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Gamezone
Gold Member
But they are, as they are basically moving everything over to Steam. Your comment doesn't make sense.
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Andodalf
Banned
Lol The point is they can negotiate a better cut my guy
GamingArena
Member
Yes only way to play it 5yrs ago, since then i'm enjoying it on Steam
edit- sorry was meant for the guy above you
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Stuart360
Member
Steam is the biggest PC store by far, PC gamers love it, many will only buy PC games from Steam.
So yeah Microsoft give up a percentage to Valve, but get way more sales making up for it. Plus its pretty obvious that Microsoft and Valve came to some arrangement with all this, and i very much doubt they are giving anywhere close to 30% to Valve.
DeceptiveAlarm
Gold Member
I read this as Blizzard and got excited.
GHG
Member
They get a better cut by their games selling better. Steam doesn't negotiate special deals with individual publishers/developers, the terms are the terms.
PuffyCan
Member
I get how selling those games on Steam makes a lot of sense, but migrating those user to steam with their wallet doesn't when you already own other options. Shows how confident they are about their own products lol
Gamezone
Gold Member
Sure, but we don't know their cut. I honestly think it's wierd that they haven't bought Steam at this point.
Calling 911 Melts Beams
Banned
lets do a fun experiment:
youre currently giving me 0% of your income
would you like to give me 20-30% of your income instead?
Considering how much Steam has invested into Linux, it'd probably be considered a monopoly move and conflict of interest. Valve have done more for gaming on Linux than most companies put together.
Andodalf
Banned
Anti trust would be all over that. Apple is having to fight tooth and claw to keep their lockedown of their platform, SEC and co would never let MS take a step in that direction, even "just" for games.
Larxia
Member
I really don't understand. I don't think that Battle.net was necessarily "bad", but it's very basic, it's just there to launch your game and nothing else.
What do you mean by "Steam is due an update" then if you prefer battle.net? An update that removes all the features on steam? so the opposite of an update actually.
Think of it this way, would you rather have 100% earnings on a small market, or 80-85% earnings of a market 100x the size? That's always the thing with Steam, it's just that big, even Epic after spending all sorts of money are still far behind, the Microsoft Store is miniscule in comparison.
poodaddy
Member
I used Battle Net for over twenty years.
Very much want it integrated with Steam. I just want as much stuff in one place as I can get.
MadPanda
Banned
exactly my thoughts.
MrTroubleMaker
Member
They are screwing over fallout first players in this migration. Basically turning of the sub and making you buy it again even if you just bought it on their service just a bit ago
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A while ago I experienced latency and network issues only when I play games on Battlenet It turned out that there was a stream playing through the launcher, and there was no way to stop it. I emailed them and their response was: Deal with it. lol. Finally I found a way to block the host of the whole window!
What a stupid idea to put autoplay stream in the front of the launcher!
I don't know if it has been improved since then. I haven't opened the launcher since 2020.
Steam has a special rate of 20% for large publishers whose games can cross $50 million in sales.
25% cut after the first $10 million revenue.
These rules have been in place for years, so your ignorance doesn’t make sense.
So, no. Microsoft isn’t paying 30% to Valve/Steam. I wouldn’t be surprised if they haven’t negotiated privately for a flat rate.
It’s shocking levels of incompetence, and Phil Spencer has to take some heat for it too. Because it’s a major dampener to Gamepass PC adoption. Not sure why it’s taking MS forever to fix it.
Sean Mirrsen
Banned
If doing so would increase my income, because you own a widely known and well-regarded platform that provides access to twice the number of monthly active users than the last two generations of my console platforms sold units combined, absolutely.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
I didn't even know that existed. But then again the last Bethesda game I played on PC was Skyrim back in 2011-2012.
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AlteredForms
Banned
I'm pleased as now most of the TES games will be on the platform. Including the crappy DOS titles, excluding Daggerfall of course. Shame we can't migrate our games right now and have to wait until April.
Calling 911 Melts Beams
Banned
there is value to be had by selling bnet games on steam but migrating their existing userbases over is an instant loss of money
theres 0 benefit for ms to move the existing hearthstone and wow players over and kneecap the money theyre already getting
To set up the games running from Steam, the work is already done, if they're closing down the service, then yeah, migrating HAS to be done, would you prefer the games just stop working?