not_so_special
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these crazy high bugdets usually are a lie,( see crysis 3)
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Beyond: Two Souls' budget is $27M
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these crazy high bugdets usually are a lie,( see crysis 3)
Don't you see? It's obviously misogynistic and problematic AGAIN. Cue ANOTHER thread derailment with crazy people smearing a game director like they've done with many others. These are dark times for the forum.
James Sawyer Ford
Member
I think Uncharted 1 may have been around 20 million, but I'm pretty sure that Uncharted 2 and 3 were 40+m
digoutyoursoul
Member
Hope so, would certainly buy a PS4 version,
XANDER CAGE
Member
I think that's maybe a bit broad of an assessment. In Rockstar/2K's case, their budgets balloon to huge amounts because they allow developers like Rockstar or Irrational to take five years to make a game, which would make any budget massive.
Uncharted also has a lot of support from Sony (weren't Naughty Dog essentially given a motion capture lab? Was that factored into Uncharted's budget?) and is only on one console.
But yeah, I don't think there's any denying that development can be woefully inefficient.
This is far more hysterical than anything I posted.
KoopaTheCasual
Junior Member
Yes, I get that, and I just want to clarify before anyone jumps at me, I don't think it's 'sexist'. It's a total David Cage thing. It just demonstrates his lack of range as a director, and people are trying compare this with a director's Easter Egg which is ridiculous. It can't even be likened to Tarantino, because at least his weird toe fetish is not rehashed in the same exact scene every movie.
In David Cage's case it's partly fetish, but more so lack of flexibility and range. It's more like how Michael Bay has to have someone in slow motion running from an explosion in every movie. Yes, it works for a specific audience, but it just shows that he's telling people he's not capable of doing anything else well.
Sorry for continuing this very sharp derailing of the thread.
EDIT: Woops! Meant to reply to Xander.
Nope UC2 was ~20million.
http://www.joystiq.com/2009/02/04/joystiq-interview-talking-uncharted-2-with-naughty-dogs-evan-w/
Although since TLOU had a longer dev cycle I'd expect that went at least double.
Wow, really? It's impressive that for the same kind of game, Uncharted managed to be made cheaper.
FullMetalx117
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I think the game is going to be great but for some reason I don't see it selling more than heavy rain. This holiday is pretty crowded.
Naked Prime
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Here's something more your speed.
I think that is a guy who was giving homemade butt injections, iirc
It comes out in 2 weeks. A couple weeks before everything else that's fall blockbuster. It'll make it's money. And it has advertising behind it just from Willem and Ellen being in it. Heavy Rain sold over 2 Million copies and made over 135 Million dollars from Sony while only costing $22 Million to make(Wikipedia).
I wouldn't bet on this game not making more than Heavy Rain. Quantic Dream has a history behind them now and a game like Heavy Rain hasn't come out since. There's at least $100 Million worth of people that want this game.
bigboss370
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I thought the home invasion scene was one of the best parts of the game. You wake up, nothing is happening, its all calm and stuff. You do what you want...go check the fridge, watch tv, try a nap, take a shower, etc...just normal stuff in a person's life. All of sudden you are aware of the invaders and the whole scene becomes intense. Masterfully done scene imo with lots of real tension that the player feels. Also, there's nothing inherently sexual about taking a shower, or nudity, or walking in underwear. I personally don't find it creepy because, as others have said, male characters do the same things in his games and the scenes are optional, activated by the player.
I think you and other people are really exaggerating that other article. Sony isn't going to do strictly big and small games. They said they would do mid-size/tier games, just not many of them...which is how its been this entire gen.
spatenfloot
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No bathtub, no sale
All of it.
A reasonable budget, should be able to cash in some profits rather quickly.
The fact that they body scanned all the actors + Heavy Rain style nude glitch/mod.
Hmmm
Doctor Ninja
Sphincter Speaker
That's surprising for a game that's cutscene heavy like this one.
Callibretto
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I just watched TGS trailer, man this game has way more action scene than I thought, I think the bitching about it being a non game is going to be worse than Heavy Rain, you can kinda excuse it in Heavy Rain since there's not many action scene, and there are many scene that looks more like point and click adventure game than action game.
but Beyond have quite a few scene of beat em up, stealth infiltration, probably shootout too, I think people are gonna expect to play those segment like the usual action adventure game, with actual stealth mechanic, third person shooter etc and the game is really nothing like that if I understand it right.
but Beyond have quite a few scene of beat em up, stealth infiltration, probably shootout too, I think people are gonna expect to play those segment like the usual action adventure game, with actual stealth mechanic, third person shooter etc and the game is really nothing like that if I understand it right.
BurnOutBrighter
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Bear in mind that marketing quickly bloats a game's budget (Tomb Raider).
XANDER CAGE
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Not in roles like this, no. Splinter Cell Blacklist had that guy from 24 in it but he's nowhere near as big.
It'll be really interesting to see if acting in games becomes a bigger thing for screen actors.
SolidSnakex
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Bruce Willis starred in a PSone game named Apocalypse in '98.
NinjamicWZ
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Maybe it's just a golden apple for him, that he keeps reaching for or trying to make "the best"... like something where a director saw some certain types of scenes as a kid and swore he'd do that same shot someday, and innovate on it somehow or learn how to master it, so it just becomes part of his techniques. 'I did it this way last time, I'll do it this way this time' etc. Something he thinks is just part of making a movie. He probably has lots of those things as part of his eye and his goals, and we just don't notice them.
Pristine_Condition
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I ain't phased.
Just providing voices, sure. But doing the whole mocap thing, probably not.
Keifer Sutherland for Phantom Pain ? I know he's doing the mocap for that as well as voice.
I dunnnnno, I think Dafoe has him beat.
OT: I looked up Keifer's imdb page to find his roles and apparently 24 is coming back, oh my shit when did this happen.
It's not in Indigo Prophecy, it's a chapter start cutscene.
Anticitizen One
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is this game all QTE like Ryse, Heavy Rain, and Jurassic Park?
Trogdor1123
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seems a bit high to me at first but after realizing it will only take about 1 million sales it looks a bit better. Heres hoping.
Coreda
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I chuckled.
Bloodworth
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instant savings - not having to spend a couple million on a CG trailer
Absolutely.
The small budget sounds pretty nice for Beyond Two Souls, but for how long will the credits roll?
Bloodworth
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All of it.
A reasonable budget, should be able to cash in some profits rather quickly.
pretty funny that my segment on the game's music has spawned this debate on the appropriateness of shower scenes - the shot was included because one of the songs kind of reminded us of singing in the shower
Latvian Hitman
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Good heavens those guys are wizards. Fooled my eye into thinking this was a live action shot from a movie until it looped the 3rd or 4th time and I saw the aliasing on the coffee maker. These guys are going to do some ridiculous shit on the new hardware.
ComputerMKII
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Acquiescence
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Seems pretty reasonable to me, considering how expensive the game itself looks and the two high-profile actors involved.
Absolutely. I just kept wandering around the apartment not doing much of anything so I could listen to the song over and over.
Absolutely. I just kept wandering around the apartment not doing much of anything so I could listen to the song over and over.
Actually "Heavy Rain" has sold over 3 Million copies.
About the shower debate, I'll just say this.
Cage is known for having mundane acts showcased in his games. I consider this one of their charms. People *gasp* shower in real life. They aren't even sexualized. It's just people showering.
Also, I know many girls that wear a tshirt and panties around the house. GAF needs to invite more girls to spend the night <3
Cage is known for having mundane acts showcased in his games. I consider this one of their charms. People *gasp* shower in real life. They aren't even sexualized. It's just people showering.
Also, I know many girls that wear a tshirt and panties around the house. GAF needs to invite more girls to spend the night <3
Celestial Mortal
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Most of the budget would be going to Willem Dafoe, Willem, William, Foe, The Foe...
In Cage We Trust !
In Cage We Trust !
Well, Wing Commander 3 had Mark Hamill, Malcolm McDowell, John Rhys-Davies and Tom Wilson amongst others..
Im very glad that Sony is giving them that king of money for a adventure game. Big balls, but HR paid itself over 3 times over [including marketing cost]....
HR:
$20 mil game production
$30 mil marketing
$130 mil Sony's cut of game sales
http://www.joystiq.com/2013/04/21/heavy-rain-cost-52-million-but-made-130-million-you-do-the-ma/
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...n-to-make-and-made-sony-more-than-100-million
HR:
$20 mil game production
$30 mil marketing
$130 mil Sony's cut of game sales
http://www.joystiq.com/2013/04/21/heavy-rain-cost-52-million-but-made-130-million-you-do-the-ma/
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...n-to-make-and-made-sony-more-than-100-million
bigboss370
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Sony should buy QD, make them a part of the family. And then tell QD to make a game on PS4 out of that Kara demo!
btw, has Beyond Two Souls gone gold?
btw, has Beyond Two Souls gone gold?
dragonbane
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ComputerMKII
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What would Quantic Dream gain from a purchase? They already have the funding and creative freedom they need, along with a good relationship with their publisher. Also, David Cage isn't interested in working with Microsoft anyway.
Canis lupus
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No. ~30m bucks for production alone isn't mid tier, does the game look mid tier to you?
It costs twice as much to produce as The WItcher 3 http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=586441I would say AA games are in the single digit millions. Also I don't think any game actually cost over 100M to produce, the big games like COD and GTA spent 4-5x their dev budget on marketing.