Beyond: Two Souls' budget is $27M

Skeff

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That's still way too high. I was hoping that costs would start going down a bit so mid-tier games would become viable again.
Well it's about 1/5th the cost Tomb raider took to make and they have an engine that we know looks very nice on the PS4 despite only being half ported over, which is what the dark sorcerer was. I think thats a pretty small development budget for the impact this game will make, I'm pretty sure I've seen hardware bundles around and the Visuals will be used to avertise the PS3 for a long time.
 

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That's still way too high. I was hoping that costs would start going down a bit so mid-tier games would become viable again.
Are you sure this game is only mid-tier? Sony is promoting it like 1 of their big AAA games.
 

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Don't get me wrong I loved the game but it's a ridiculous budget. Was the project in development hell or something?
It wasn't in development hell, but they did go through various versions of the game before landing where they did. There's some prototype footage where it's more along the lines of SotC meets old-school Tomb Raider.
 

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And girls walking around their apartments in panties and a t-shirt. Subtlety is not his strong suit.
People take showers everyday, its not like its gratuitous. Also, people walk around in their underwear at home, not really seeing the issue here. Are Americans really so prudish?
 

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I hope this game does well so it can make a profit. I worry that it'll get lost in the shuffle this fall. Heavy Rain did well since it came out at a kind of dead part of the year.
 

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Skeff

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And girls walking around their apartments in panties and a t-shirt. Subtlety is not his strong suit.
You know girls really do walk around their houses like that when alone/with company they're comfortable with. They also shower, don't know the context in this game, but I don't remember it being completely out of place in Heavy rain, not exactly needed but not just tacked on for the whole "boobies!!" bonus points games get.
 

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People take showers everyday, its not like its gratuitous. Also, people walk around in their underwear at home, not really seeing the issue here. Are Americans really so prudish?
It's just the fact that that same exact scene is in all three of his games. I know it happens, but why in all 3?

You know girls really do walk around their houses like that when alone/with company they're comfortable with. They also shower, don't know the context in this game, but I don't remember it being completely out of place in Heavy rain, not exactly needed but not just tacked on for the whole "boobies!!" bonus points games get.
It was tacked on for that exact reason in HR. That scene added nothing to the story.
 

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Well it's about 1/5th the cost Tomb raider took to make and they have an engine that we know looks very nice on the PS4 despite only being half ported over, which is what the dark sorcerer was. I think thats a pretty small development budget for the impact this game will make, I'm pretty sure I've seen hardware bundles around and the Visuals will be used to avertise the PS3 for a long time.
Jesus fuck. I had no idea.
 

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It's just the fact that that same exact scene is in all three of his games. I know it happens, but why in all 3?



It was tacked on for that exact reason in HR. That scene added nothing to the story.
And it's optional. So I don't really see the problem with it. You can do it, but you don't have to. If you feel it would add to the scene do it. If you don't feel that way just don't use the shower. Easy.
 

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It was tacked on for that exact reason in HR. That scene added nothing to the story.
Aren't there a lot of little things that you can do in HR that have no purpose to the story? That was part of the point of trying to create something more realistic. And it's not like you can only take showers with female characters.
 

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wow that's much lower than I expected considering the look and scope of this game. Hopefully Sony ramps up marketing and this one gets even better sales than Heavy Rain, I know I'm there Day 1.

Wonder if Sony will buy QD if this is a success.
 

malboroking

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Seems more self indulgent than anything, at least in this case.
Maybe, maybe not. Who knows? The dude is european correct? Nudity is really not a thing in mainland Europe. Hell, when I lived in Germany tgey showed some pretty graphic pornography on TV ay night. It just isn't a big deal there.
 

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I assume that's without marketing? So probably around 2m copies to break even? Seems fairly typical.
 

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Aren't there a lot of little things that you can do in HR that have no purpose to the story? That was part of the point of trying to create something more realistic. And it's not like you can only take showers with female characters.
I can understand that, and I don't have a problem with it, but the fact that, in order to make a female character "realistic", he has strip them down every chance he gets, says something abut his ability to craft intricate and relatable characters.

Sure you could shower with Ethan, but it wasn't as gratuitous as Madison's scene. Again, no problem with it, but I'm beginning to see a pattern emerge.