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[Ninja Scooter]

I"m new to the whole streaming thing and mostly just browse on PS4, but the streams that try to be too "professional" are the ones I find the most annoying. The entire time all you hear is:
"CornyDog445 thanks for the follow man"
"Remember guys just hit that sub button"
"What's up QuailManX99?"
"Hit that sub button if you want to be entered to win a $100 PSN gift card"
"AnalQueen77 thanks for the follow man"
"Remember guys hit that sub button we're having the drawing once we hit 1000 followers"

It's caused me to purposely seek out streams that have like 5 or 6 viewers because they are usually people actually just streaming and talking about the game and not trying to start up some "NASTY RON NATION" subscription service or whatever other bullshit you see from people trying to make a living out of this.

 

[Prophet Steve]

I was baffled thinking he meant that people needed to chat. Although this is still bad.

 

[brokenbeans]

It's pretty much the same way I look at YouTube videos now. I try to watch some game footage and a 5 minute clip will have 2 minutes taken up by intro graphic, begging for likes,subs, and shares, and then an outro that shows other videos they want you to watch AND HEY DON'T FORGET TO LIKE, SUB, AND SHARE! THANKS!

BECAUSE YOU OWE ME I DONT DO THIS FOR THE LOVE OF GAMING OR LIFE JUST TO INFLATE MY EGO AND OR WALLET.

Spoiler

LINK TO SPONSORS IN THE DESCRIPTION!

 

[Pandaman]

Something to think about. We're watching this content right now without paying him.

why would we have to pay him? if he wants gated access to his content he can get off twitch and go be irrelevant somewhere else.

 

[Kwansu Dudes]

Guess I'm a pirate then.

 

[kingofthedead45]

Set up a service where only those who pay can watch you.

I hear 'models' do that a lot.

Shoe on head pls bb

 

[Aeana]

That's why I stick to longplays.

By the way, is there some good "silent" (non person-focused) streamers, who just... stream games and nothing more? Well, at least without awful overlays/chat interactivity/etc.

I do that. And inevitably I get at least one person telling me my stream sucks. Can't please everyone!

 

[Dysun]

Hilarious

 

[Permanently A]

Something to think about. We're watching this content right now without paying him.

Because he makes it available for us to watch it for free? He could be like Giant Bomb and charge people to watch your stream, but of course then he'd starve.

 

[Chaos17]

This

 

[InfiniteNine]

That's why I stick to longplays.

By the way, is there some good "silent" (non person-focused) streamers, who just... stream games and nothing more? Well, at least without awful overlays/chat interactivity/etc.

I used to do that but it's really annoying to have to go to the keyboard to reply to people about stuff. It's just easier to answer questions by talking especially in more action focused titles.

 

[Ruff]

Complaining about not getting paid by lurkers, while streaming a game he didn't make, and playing music he doesn't have the rights to broadcast.

oh man 10/10.

 

[-MD-]

And then the donations start pouring in after all that.

Amazing.

 

[Nanashrew]

why would we have to pay him? if he wants gated access to his content he can get off twitch and go be irrelevant somewhere else.

Because he makes it available for us to watch it for free? He could be like Giant Bomb and charge people to watch your stream, but of course then he'd starve.

It's something to think about and how flawed his thinking is that watching his content, or lurking without subbing or donating is like pirating a movie.

 

[CassidyIzABeast]

That dude can go fuck himself. I say that respectfully.

 

[jediyoshi]

why would we have to pay him? if he wants gated access to his content he can get off twitch and go be irrelevant somewhere else.

Because he makes it available for us to watch it for free? He could be like Giant Bomb and charge people to watch your stream, but of course then he'd starve.

That was the point. That you're seeing it because the streamer allows it.

 

[OdysseusVA]

Too bad I always hide chat.

On PC, why even load up the site

https://github.com/bastimeyer/livestreamer-twitch-gui

If chat is a must for some, Chatty seems to be doing okay.

 

[ConfusingJazz]

It's caused me to purposely seek out streams that have like 5 or 6 viewers because they are usually people actually just streaming and talking about the game and not trying to start up some "NASTY RON NATION" subscription service or whatever other bullshit you see from people trying to make a living out of this.

...Can you tell me more about this "NASTY RON NATION"?

 

[Abilidebob]

I will never understand people who waste their precious free time watching other people play games. Looking at combo tutorials in fighting games is one thing. Looking at other people play through entire games seems like the opposite of what I like the most about gaming: having the player decide what to do. It is primarily what sets it apart from other more passive forms of entertainment (movies, TV, etc).

Couldn't you ask the same about people that like to watch football? Or any other sport?
They do it because it's entertaining, for any number of reasons.
I like to watch DOTA 2 streams of people that are way better than me. I also like to watch football games of people that are way better than me.

I also like to watch people streaming if they're funny/entertaining. If there was a football player that had some "gimmick" to show while playing, I'd enjoy to watch that player too.

 

[Permanently A]

Complaining about not getting paid by lurkers, while streaming a game he didn't make, and playing music he doesn't have the rights to broadcast.

oh man 10/10.

people watch streams for the personality

 

[K.Sabot]

Like, this dude shouldn't be salty about lurkers if he's getting their CPM.

 

[Floridian]

He sounds like someone whose stream I wouldn't want to lurk in anyway.

 

[brokenbeans]

And then the donations start pouring in after all that.

Amazing.

Was watching Castro play fifa the other day and someone donated $100, why!

 

[styl3s]

I don't even bother watching people on Twitch that have over 500 people watching because they either have one of those stupid fake personalities and/or they hawk the sub/donate shit every 2 goddamn seconds and half the screen is dedicated to the highest donations and they add stipulations for shoutouts like $3 so people just spam it and have them say dumb shit.

I find myself using twitch less and less and it gets more popular because it just becomes full of more fake people and if you are into the top streamers that's cool it's just not my cup of tea. I would rather watch someone with a few viewers who is legitimately into the game and takes the time to actually talk and have a conversation with his viewers.

 

[Coolwhip]

Plz donate so I can play videogame with a camera aimed at my ugly mug fulltime. Plzzzzz.

 

[DownGrader]

I do that. And inevitably I get at least one person telling me my stream sucks. Can't please everyone!

Fact: regarding any human activity, at least one person will tell it sucks. So that's nothing to worry about. Thanks for the info, I will check you up!

 

[Ninja Scooter]

...Can you tell me more about this "NASTY RON NATION"?

Just hit that follow button bro and remember you'll be entered in a drawing to win a Turtle Beach headset.

 

[Silent_Ocarina]

I streamed myself playing BioShock Infinite once. I had one viewer

Spoiler

she was my friend

. I'm impressed that some people have the personality in some cases to draw in such a huge crowd from nothing. I'm incredibly boring when I play, and I kinda got nervous streaming because I wasn't sure if I was even interesting to watch. Of course, a lot of streamers rely on sex appeal, too, which I obviously don't have either. Or they're just really good at the game as well. Nobody wants to watch a Bronze guy stream League of Legends (me).

 

[Blooddimond]

Was watching Castro play fifa the other day and someone donated $100, why!

100? Summit (guy in this vod) got 30k from a guy a month or so ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oVV3CcXJoQ
Edit: appears all but $750 got cancelled by the guy, nevermind

 

[Marceles]

I do that. And inevitably I get at least one person telling me my stream sucks. Can't please everyone!

Lmao, yeah I personally just want to play the game myself. I don't really see the point in talking when the chat isn't busy anyway.

 

[ConfusingJazz]

Just hit that follow button bro and remember you'll be entered in a drawing to win a Turtle Beach headset.

Will there be distracting ass overlays and less than 1/4 of the screen dedicated to the game at hand?

 

[Skux]

I don't have to give buskers money.

 

[brokenbeans]

Just hit that follow button bro and remember you'll be entered in a drawing to win a Turtle Beach headset.

Thanks bro, let's spam the chat with his name...

 

[DownGrader]

I used to do that but it's really annoying to have to go to the keyboard to reply to people about stuff. It's just easier to answer questions by talking especially in more action focused titles.

Occasional question answering via microphone is nice. Random sounds, overlays and screaming pseudo-personalities are not.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

Will there be distracting ass overlays and less than 1/4 of the screen dedicated to the game at hand?

Of course. Also custom smilies to use in the chat. And in-jokes that new viewers will not understand.

 

[luffxan]

Go fuck yourself and get a real job, bitch. Who the fuck cries over getting paid to play video games?

Ohh savage

 

[Blooddimond]

Will there be distracting ass overlays and less than 1/4 of the screen dedicated to the game at hand?

Of course, if they hit 2000 followers they'll lower it to 1/8th of the screen even!

 

[Aeana]

Fact: regarding any human activity, at least one person will tell it sucks. So that's nothing to worry about. Thanks for the info, I will check you up!

Oh, sure. It doesn't bother me at all. I don't even care if anybody watches; I stream to Twitch primarily because I like to have video to look back at, and Twitch makes keeping archives like that easy (and it makes getting it on YouTube easy, too), all without taking up my own hard drive space.

 

[Boba2007]

The guys over at Vinesauce are my favorite streamers. They never ask for subscribers, read and interact the chat, and the only thing they have on screen is the game and sometimes a facecam (most of them don't even have one). Heck, they even show fanart people make at the end of the stream. All of this makes me want to subscribe to them more than any other stream that has what OP is talking about.

So yeah, go check Vinesauce out if you want. I wish more streamers were like them.

 

[brokenbeans]

100? Summit (guy in this vod) got 30k from a guy a month or so ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oVV3CcXJoQ

The shit!!!

 

[Gintoki]

I've seen some streams where the streamer makes a fake currency for his channel. The more you're on his stream, you get more of the currency which lets you enter raffles/join their multiplayer games. They're crafty.

 

[Monocle]

Since when does broadcasting gameplay for free on the internet mean you're entitled to money?

 

[InfiniteNine]

Occasional question answering via microphone is nice. Random sounds, overlays and screaming pseudo-personalities are not.

That might be why I don't get many regulars. lol I just kinda have the game on screen and am very quiet for the most part unless I'm reading a note in-game, a bit frustrated, or the chat is active.

 

[StanleyStutters]

If he was complaining about people using ad-blocker he's statement would hold more weight. I lurk in pretty much every channel I follow and most times have it on in the background while I do other things. They're still getting their ad revenue from me being there regardless of how often I chat.

And I agree it has gotten a little out of hand with the subs/donations. It's rare to find a channel that doesn't have some sort of obnoxious pop-up and/or sounds play every time someone follows, subs, or donates. I can think of only one channel I follow that doesn't have notifications pop on screen.

 

[The Dear Leader]

Well that's a fast way of turning people off from your stream, what an arrogant thing to say.

 

[Yagharek]

Given the loose interpretation of the word 'interactive' in some genres these days, many twitch streamers are closer to pirates than their viewers are.

 

[panty]

What a loser. Seriously.

Go fuck yourself and get a real job, bitch. Who the fuck cries over getting paid to play video games?

Truer words have never been said.

 

[-MD-]

Was watching Castro play fifa the other day and someone donated $100, why!

I mocked someone one time for donating $150 to a girl bragging about her new laptop she got through donations and he put up another $350 in my name to spite me.

Real talk this streamer is boring as fuck, his donation page shows he's gotten like 50k+ donations.

Liamneesonwhy.gif

 

[Wiktor]

Something to think about. We're watching this content right now without paying him.

No. You're paying him with your time, the one you used up to watch that add before the stream started.

 

[Spenny]

Was he joking (can't get VOD on mobile)? I'm not a follower or sub but usually Summit is a chill dude. He's also a smart ass who fucks with his chat. I can't se him seriously saying that. Also, dude makes $20k a month just on subs. Don't think he'd be begging for money,