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Bioshock: PS4 vs Xbox One vs PC Original Analysis and Frame-Rate Test
- Thread starter Zombie James
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Y2Kev? Follow the money.
disappeared
Banned
From that first screen they posted of Ryan's fucked up statue face I knew something wasn't gonna be right about this remaster. It's a shame.
I guess for people who never played the original they have no point of reference, so ignorance is bliss.
I guess for people who never played the original they have no point of reference, so ignorance is bliss.
Clark W Grizwald
Banned
Its a shame how many remakes this generation have been dog shit. These remakes are nothing more then a quick cash grab and its sad.
Forever Changes
Banned
And they will continue to happen because people buy them without watching videos like this.
PS4 does AF just fine. The problem is that there appear to be multiplatform engines that don't play well with it by default, which seems to always crop in Unreal Engine titles. In this case, UE3 and (unless they did switch engines for 1 and 2) UE Warfare.
Caayn
Member
Sadly this is nothing new for the current gen consoles to lack in the AF department.
Here's a comparison of the Unfinished Swan on PS3 vs PS4. The current gen version has the same issue when it comes to texture filtering, whereas the last gen version doesn't have it.
shinobi602
Member
That's what you gathered from my post? Anyone who's been on here for as long as I have and knows me knows I don't care about your "system wars".
Please don't involve me in that stuff.
PackAPunchedMick
Member
The texture filtering is also missing on the xbox one, this isnt a hardware issue, its incompetent developers.
The weird part is Infinite has AF on the Xbox One. I guess it's a UE Warfare issue that they weren't able to figure out by the time the game had to ship.
That, in of itself, is its own can of worms.
Nero's Neptune
Member
The audio changes are the most jarring differences to me. Damned shame.
Dictator93
Member
Definitely curious about this as well!
Lister
Banned
You're never overt, that's for sure.
Lister
Banned
Weren't the DX10 effects essentially the shading on the water textures that appear ot be missing here?
I don't recall any other DX10 features, but it's been a while.
Dictator93
Member
Yeah, I believe that is what DX10 did for water. Or at least those water flow maps from dynamic objects...
I swear DX10 bioshock also supported MSAA (and hence modifiable SGSSAA through that with proper bits).
edit: it looks like I am DLing it now to check it out. God damn install size for the new one is 'uge in comparison.
Is this going to win any prizes for the quality of the port. No.
Is it the travesty that some are making it out to be, not a chance.
So while not anywhere near perfect, I would still play this version above the original. I hope they improve the details lost in porting through patches, if not it wont stop me enjoying the game again.
Is it the travesty that some are making it out to be, not a chance.
So while not anywhere near perfect, I would still play this version above the original. I hope they improve the details lost in porting through patches, if not it wont stop me enjoying the game again.
The Dx10 water trails are in the remaster. Obviously SGSSAA isn't supported, though.
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Could be mixing this up with something else but didn't DX9 have AA while DX10 didn't?.
But on Infinity Xbox one has AF, while Ps4 doesn't
Jaguar CPUs.
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A GTX 285 ran Bioshock at 1920x1200 at 60fps almost 8 years ago!
For now, but seems the upcoming update will sort out the more annoying issues like the mouse accel, fov, audio settings and bring easier 21:9 support
And with 16x AF. :/
Low framerate animations & physics where very jarring when I played Bioshock 2 a few years ago.
Savage.
Oh yeah, I completely forgot. Yeah that is a bag of arse. It is in Bioshock 1 as well
Unlike Bioshock 1, I played Bioshock 2 at 144fps, which made that specially jarring.
Forever Changes
Banned
There's a mod for that..Sadly none for 2.
I had pretty much had the exact same experience. I actually thought it was a really good port until I went on gaf and saw people outraged by it. My only real issue was some audio bugs, but nothing too major.
Lister
Banned
Well, it's a remaster. You kind of sorta have to compar eit to the original no? And in the comparison, it fails on certina areas which do affect immersion, at least for some.
There's nothing invalid about you or Shinobi's opinion that these changes don't bother you.
There's ALSO absolutley nothing wrong in being bothered by the changes too, since some are significant. Trying to be dismissive of those opinions and attmepting to paint them as some irrational "outrage over a travesty" speaks of an agenda more than anything else.
Golgo 13
The Man With The Golden Dong
What's so crazy about all this tech talk (which I like) is that I've played the collection on PS4 and thought it was a great port -- game looks great, runs well, and I personally didn't notice any tearing.
Not saying DF is wrong, but even with this knowledge of such a "poor port" I'm super excited to keep playing the collection.
Hmm...
Not saying DF is wrong, but even with this knowledge of such a "poor port" I'm super excited to keep playing the collection.
Hmm...
Lister
Banned
Didn't the original support EAX on PC? Which is infinitely superior (but note well supported now a days)?
I think OpenAL could atleast support some of the EAX effects though, especially on today's CPU's. I could be wrong about that though.
It could be worse, looks pretty good for the most part and they did put some effort into updating parts. The sound is more disappointing.
I think the disappointment is these remasters never truly excel and celebrate the games with the upmost care and attention to fixing, improving aspects and perfecting them.
It kinda makes you think if publishers don't care enough then why should we which is hard to do since we love the games and IP but maybe we should start and demand better instead of buying then complaining resulting in little to no fixes. Still annoyed at MCC.
I think the disappointment is these remasters never truly excel and celebrate the games with the upmost care and attention to fixing, improving aspects and perfecting them.
It kinda makes you think if publishers don't care enough then why should we which is hard to do since we love the games and IP but maybe we should start and demand better instead of buying then complaining resulting in little to no fixes. Still annoyed at MCC.
Of course, I can totally understand people being dissappinted/annoyed at the remaster job, I just think it's important to put my experience out there because if I had just read this gaf thread then I'd think the port was a travesty and never touch it. It's kinda the same for something like the Sleeping Dogs current gen ports where people where calling it a garbage port because it was 30fps when they expected more, but for 90% of (console) people it's a good version of that game. This is a fine version of these games, better than the 360 and ps3 versions in most ways, even if it is lacking in some key aspects. Hopefully they patch up the bigger issues.
Also the directors commentary is really good, if you're on PC you should dig into the game files and watch them, there's some cool bits of info.
AgentOtaku
Member
Left a comment in the video (thanks again John and DF!) and yeah.... I'm pretty lenient about these things but hot damn, I just can't ignore these issues
Also, what hell is up with the player's upper arms showing up in the frame now!? It's like even though they added the FOV options in there, they didn't take into account something like that... it's looks ridiculous at points.
Also, what hell is up with the player's upper arms showing up in the frame now!? It's like even though they added the FOV options in there, they didn't take into account something like that... it's looks ridiculous at points.
Lister
Banned
The commentary is pretty much the main thing making me want to play the remaster at this point vs the original with mods.
What mods though ?