PS4's Blu-Ray playback capabilities and media features are hindered by a new and underdeveloped OS. Sadly, it seems like it might take a while for Sony to even catch up to the PS3's media capabilities, which is the far better media playback device.
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Blu-Ray.com reviews Xbox One's Blu-Ray Player functionality
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PS4's Blu-Ray playback capabilities and media features are hindered by a new and underdeveloped OS. Sadly, it seems like it might take a while for Sony to even catch up to the PS3's media capabilities, which is the far better media playback device.
Prince Vultan
Banned
Yeah, but to assume you're the only one having those issues is ludicrous!
lol j/k
... just surprised that two such new pieces of hardware seemingly aren't as good for BR movie playback as a 7 year old console is all (Especially given the heavy multimedia focus of the Xbone). More important things to be focusing on for now I guess though... for both.
toddhunter
Member
So do voice commands work well or not? I'm confused by this.
They are great except when in menus or watching a movie?
I don't think any real home theater enthusiast will have 3D in their setup. So for them, it's a mute point. Still, there really isn't a reason that the new consoles shouldn't support it.
well, they used firmware 1.50... maybe issues are already fixed in 1.51 released?
Yeah, but to assume you're the only one having those issues is ludicrous!
lol j/k
More important things to be focusing on for now I guess though... for both.
New architectures, new operating systems. It's going to take a while for the maturity level to reach that of the PS3, which already had hardware more than capable enough for the task. The improved hardware in the PS4 and Xbox One aren't going to contribute much here...in fact the significant power usage of the PS4 is seriously going to hurt its long term viability as a Blu-Ray player since it's simply going to be too loud for some of the more demanding consumers' entertainment centers.
plagiarize
Banned
3D support is currently missing. they had major issues playing back two of their randomly selected movies on the PS4. I don't see how you can claim PS4 playback is the same as PS3. My PS3 played all my 3d Blu-Rays in 3D.
seriously, what the hell is this nonsense?
EtherMagic
Member
Hmm, odd.
I'll be trying all this out soon enough with BluRays. I have a Theater Room with a Sony HW30 projector, and a 106-inch perm Da-Lite screen I will be hooking my X1 too shortly.
I had my PS3 BluRay as my main player and the picture looked absolutely gorgeous on my 106inch screen. I sold my PS3 about 3 weeks ago hoping the X1 would take it's place, I'm just waiting on hooking up my DirecTV in my theater and then my X1 will folllow. I'm going to be very disappointed if the X1's picture quality isn't up to par with the PS3's!
Philthy
Member
PS3 is a very decent player with a lot of options, but best on the market would go to Oppo. It isn't even arguable.
Metallix87
Member
Exactly.
GoofsterStud
Member
Yeah...no.
I know a lot of enthusiasts who are getting into the 3D setups. Gravity in 3D is breathtaking.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Do either PS4 or Xbox One support 3d Blu-Rays as of November 25th, 2013? The review suggests no, but that can't possibly be true, can it?
Wait, the PS4 doesn't even have a persistent always-off toggle for BD Live? :O
Wait, the PS4 doesn't even have a persistent always-off toggle for BD Live? :O
Muffdraul
Member
I haven't noticed anything major, but it seems like the PS4 has no option to change the time display; i.e. switch between the time of the entire program, to the time of the specific chapter you're viewing. I use that a lot so I can stop watching something right at a chapter break, annoying that it's not there. That's just one example, I think there are a few little things like that. It's enough that I think I'll keep watching blu-rays on my PS3 until they update the firmware. And either release a remote or make the PS3 remote compatible.
They don't do anything for menu navigation because the menu options aren't hardcoded--the one disk may say 'special features', the next 'bonus features', and the third 'extras'.
There's nothing MS can hardcore the Kinect to understand, so you're stuck with a controller.
And they later indicate that in-movie commands were only an issue for them when things got loud--they later say they think it would work better in a family room where you're unlikely to be listening at reference volume.
plagiarize
Banned
it's true that they don't. I can confirm first hand that the PS4 doesn't play 3D movies. I'd read the confirmation before it came out, but I still tried Avatar and it played in 2D. Xbox One doesn't currently support native 3D output *for anything*. PS4 supports it (Trine 2 is native 3D) but as of yet the Blu-Ray software doesn't support 3D blu-rays. It should be coming in a firmware update, at some point.
cartoon_soldier
Member
Ah great, much better than PS4. Was going to be a big reason for getting XB1 in India for me.
toddhunter
Member
Right, got it.
isnt PS4 quieter when playing BDs than PS3 and XB1? Its BD drive seems to be quieter according to tests. Also, PS4 and PS3 spend same amount of power usage. XB1 spends tiny bit less.
I think the main fact here is that right now, everyone has better BD player than PS4 will ever be, and they probably paid at least 4x for it. PS4 will never again be main BD player because dedicated players will always do it better. At very least they have chip designed to spend 4x less power, and million more outputs.
What they need to do is to make it "good enough" BD player with good picture and 3D options.
I have checked various AV forums for reviews and seems like very few people are actually using PS4/XB1 for BD... about similar amount of issues was reported for both.. basically nobody really cares. Back when PS3 was introduced, threads there had hundreds of posts within week.
Ok thanks for the details!
Fushichou187
Member
I don't understand this part. My question is why couldn't the PS4 be at least equal to the blu-ray player of the PS3?
That's the least I would have expected. I certainly didn't expect it to be worse than PS3.
RukusProvider
Banned
Glad the BR player is good. Planning to try it out.
Wife played a DVD yesterday and I was surprised by the upscaler. It worked quite well.
Wife played a DVD yesterday and I was surprised by the upscaler. It worked quite well.
GoofsterStud
Member
I wouldn't base your decision off of this.
"Star Trek: Into Darkness Audio Glitch"
I can't replicate this glitch but I'm using the latest firmware 1.51. I'm also using bitstream with my 5.1 setup. I assume this was fixed in 1.51?
Note: I do not have Beauty and the Beast, so I'm not sure about that. I have watched Star Trek just to see the issue. Normally I would use my dedicate Blu-Ray player.
PS4: Pro not as loud during playback.
Xbox One: Pro voice command. Note:louder the movie the lower the accuracy.
Neutral: Video quality and Audio quality (going by HDMI for both)
Can anyone confirm Beauty and the Beast with the latest firmware?
GoofsterStud
Member
No. At least for 1080p native Blu-Ray's this doesn't seem to be a problem. The scaler isn't being applied.
Note: I believe all Blu-Ray titles are 1080p.
Note 2: I haven't tested DVD playback, but I don't really watch DVD's at this point this may cause crushed blacks if the upscaler is being used..
When Blu-ray first launched disc mastering was at issue on some titles, but at this point? Unlikely. It's probably a player software issue at this point. I know GAF wouldn't be GAF without grousing, but this isn't a huge issue for either console IMO. Both players will be updated many times throughout their life cycle. At this point in time, Blu-ray.com prefers the XB1's player. That's all.
Dr. Zoidberg
Member
Well, for an example: My PS4 refuses to play my "Planes, Trains, and Automobiles" BD among a few others (it just goes to a black screen), whereas the X1 has played everything I've put in it.
I'm keeping my PS3 for BD playback for now.
cartoon_soldier
Member
I am not sure functionality wise, but review says that normal Blu-ray playback is faster and smoother at the moment.
GoofsterStud
Member
Could you list some of the other movies so I can try? Guess I've lucked out so far,
I understand you want a good player, but reviews like this are just a slice in time. The PS4 and XB1 will update their players over time. My guess is both players will rock after a few updates. And BTW, if you want a good Blu-ray player you might take a look at the OPPO BDP-103D (Darbee Edition) player with Darbee circuitry built-in.
http://www.audioholics.com/blu-ray-and-dvd-player-reviews/oppo-bdp-103d-darbee-visual-presence
GoofsterStud
Member
Nobody is replacing their OPPO for these. It's not even close.
Dr. Zoidberg
Member
I don't remember for sure off the top of my head. I'll try again tonight and update, but from what I remember for PS4:
Worked:
The Police: Certifiable
Did Not Work:
Planes, Trains, and Automobiles
Disney WoW Calibration Disc
I tried several Disney blu-rays but I can't remember which ones worked and which didn't. All the DVDs worked, though
The Xbox One works with remotes. My Harmony One controls it well.
GoofsterStud
Member
Darn...I don't own any Disney movies. :-/ Is it bad that I like to test things.
Woot! Something else to test. That's actually pretty cool!
That's not wha the review says at all
They do complain about both in the review.
cookie-monster
Member
I bought a PS3 slim for playing Blu-rays and then bought a dedicated Blu-ray player a few weeks later. Consoles are shit at this.
BigTnaples
Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
Either MS or Sony needs to update with 3D Blu Ray playback ASAP.
Not having it at launch is ridiculous imo.
Not having it at launch is ridiculous imo.
Darn...I don't own any Disney movies. :-/ Is it bad that I like to test things.
Woot! Something else to test. That's actually pretty cool!
Yup, just select Microsoft, then type in Xbox One for the device.
There is no discrete on or discrete off, unfortunately. And some of the stuff is mislabeled. But it works.
Hopefully MS will put out an official remote, too.
No they're not, or at least the PS3 isn't. Both dedicated players I had were awful and I've used the PS3 as my Blu player for two years now. I'm sure higher end dedicated players are equal to the PS3 or better, but the standard ones you get for $100-200 are clunky trash. My Samsung 3D BR player couldn't make it through anything without stuttering and freezing in places the PS3 played with zero issues whatsoever.
Even with the next gen consoles in the rack, the PS3 will remain the Blu-ray player for the moment.
You can set the player to 24hz playback in the settings.
Fnord
Member
This. Physical media for MUSIC is still reasonably strong. Video is going to take longer to go away than music.
cookie-monster
Member
Protip: buy Japanese. My Panny is much more pleasant than the PS3. Pretty sure a dedicated Sony would be too.
GoofsterStud
Member
That's lame what's the point of a remote if you have to still turn the system on/off/standby. Hopefully the get that fixed. I'm going to try it when I get home.
I was using the android app as my PS4 remote, it actually allowed you to enter suspend and shut the console off. If it's in suspend mode it'll turn the console on for you when you load the app on your phone. It actually surprised me...
Until it didn't work with Resident Evil Blu-Ray, Amazon Prime or Netflix. >.> The Netflix app worked though, and let's you navigate the PS4 via your phone. The really odd thing is the PS button works the whole time. Hope they fix that.
I'll go test it now to see if it eliminates it. It's at the start of every movie and hits any time you skip a scene.
