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[golem]

This:

Plus this:
http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...werchip-stage-1-c63-ecu-tune-development.html

i still have a hard time believing those claims, although i have no doubts about evosports credibility. cant wait till someone around here tries it.

and to the guy who's saying get the GT-R.. good luck finding one under $90k+ (and then getting your warranty denied by Nissan).

 

[cilonen]

The 3M isn't a race car either. None of these cars are. Especially a sedan.

and

both disagree strongly. The M3 was only bought in to existence to homologate the BMW touring car project derived from M1 technology. It literally was a racing car with a saloon bodyshell.

As for the M5, there's a reason they use it as the 'Ring Taxi.

 

[Smokey]

I'm an Acquisitions Executive.

I'll leave it at that.

*looks up Acquisitions Executive salary*

damn!

seriously though I'd go for the coupe or sedan like others have said. Convertible M3...nah.

Just hand over that $50,000.000 and you'll be in heaven

 

[Madvillain]

The 3M isn't a race car either. None of these cars are. Especially a sedan.

somebody needs a history lesson.

Hell, i think the original M3 might even have the best record of any touring car ever.

 

[Madvillain]

got some free time...

M3 E30 Championships

World Touring Car Championship; 1 title (1987)
European Touring Car Championship; 2 titles (1987 and 1988)
British Touring Car Championship; 2 titles (1988 and 1991)
Italia Superturismo Championship; 4 titles (1987, 1989, 1990 and 1991)
Deutsche Tourenwagen Meisterschaft; 2 titles (1987 and 1989)
Australian Touring Car Championship; 1 title (1987)

yeah dude, it's definitely a race car.

 

[Always-honest]

convertibles are ugly by design. get the one with the roof.. much better.

 

[cynlix]

I'm going to disagree with you both on the convertible and sedan choices for the E92. Here's why:

Convertible: If you really like to drive top down, then by all means go ahead and get one. I'm sure you'll like it a lot. However, I totally agree with you that a convertible M3 isn't a TRUE M3. Convertibles make the E92 even more bloated than it already is. And, convertibles generally have more road noise, less aerodynamics, and you can generally feel the weight. Biased opinion alert: If you're dead set on getting an convertible, get an Audi S5. The car is DROP DEAD GORGEOUS and gets a few of its looks from it's bigger brother: The RS8. And...every tom dick and hair will have an M3 in a few years anyways. Be different.

Sedan: Ok, with this one I am totally against it. Simply because there are lots of other choices that are better if you're going sedan in your price range. C63 AMG, RS4, or if you want to go Japanese, the underrated Lexus IS-F. However, I would want a sedan to be luxurious and classy, so I would rather get a 5-series or an e-class.

Hope my biased opinions help lol.

 

[BeEatNU]

I'm sad that the M3 Coupe is not listed here

 

[Pterion]

Thread needs more M3 coupe pics. OP, get the car and post your pics. kthxbye

 

[Madvillain]

Sedan: Ok, with this one I am totally against it. Simply because there are lots of other choices that are better if you're going sedan in your price range. C63 AMG, RS4, or if you want to go Japanese, the underrated Lexus IS-F.

CS3 - it is indeed a beast. but it's hard to tame. the M3 offers better handling, traction, and just over all more balanced. M3 line was created to race, CS3 is made to compete with the M3.

RS4 - nice car, but it just lacks that umph. the all wheel drive is cool, but the car just comes off as a bit on the soft side.

IS-F is pretty nuts, and a nice car, but the handling just kinda brings it down a notch compared to the M3.

as for the sedan vs coupe argument. I like the coupe a lot, and realize that it's the base. but im thinking down the line here, i know those 2 extra doors are gonna be worth it in the long term. not to mention, the coupe literally has 2 seats in back.

 

[cilonen]

CS3 - it is indeed a beast. but it's hard to tame. the M3 offers better handling, traction, and just over all more balanced. M3 line was created to race, CS3 is made to compete with the M3.

RS4 - nice car, but it just lacks that umph. the all wheel drive is cool, but the car just comes off as a bit on the soft side.

IS-F is pretty nuts, and a nice car, but the handling just kinda brings it down a notch compared to the M3.

as for the sedan vs coupe argument. I like the coupe a lot, and realize that it's the base. but im thinking down the line here, i know those 2 extra doors are gonna be worth it in the long term. not to mention, the coupe literally has 2 seats in back.

Looking through some old car magazines from earlier this year, I actually have the 2 page review of the convertible M3 from Auto Express and a 2-pager from Top Gear on the sedan.

Auto Express on the convertible:

"V8 sounds even better with the hood down, although cockpit doesn't feel that much more special than a standard 3-series"

"The folding hard-top also means you don't have to compromise refinement or handling. In fact the new convertible is arguably a more pleasant everyday choice than the harder-edged M3 coupe. The case for the semi-auto box is less clear cut. You'll be better off saving £2,590 and sticking with the slick speed manual"

4/5 stars.


Top Gear on the sedan:

"M is for multi-purpose; The M3 can be all things to all men. a staid saloon for the school run and the perfect car to blat around in at speed"

"Better than the coupe for real life. Difference is noticable but you won't be punished. Just a pity that a used M5 is so close (in cost)."

"you won;t notice the extra (body) lean unless you step straight from the coupe. You can still play with the optional eletronic damper control, still mess with the throttle maps using the 'Power' button, and still switch everything off and scare yourself on a couple of corners. The M3 is still a great car in saloon form and quite possibly the one I'd be most tempted by."

15/20

 

[mrklaw]

why do you think 4 doors will be so useful?

I have two kids and my e92 coupe has plenty of room in the back, access is easy with the longer, frameless doors, and you can still foldthe rear seats if you need more trunk space (although standard space is still excellent)

 

[DonasaurusRex]

Here's the math:

How often do you need an extra second from 0-60, or another 10mph, versus how often do you wish to drive around town with the top down and the car full of ladies?

Also, aesthetically, the convertible destroys the sedan.

thats a matter of opinion i hate convertibles gimme the hard top any day.

 

[elostyle]

For someone living in LA this isn't even a real question.

It's always sunny and the only type of corners are intersections. Come on, better handling? In LA?

Not to mention the E92 sedan is butt ugly and looks very cheap compared to the coupe/convertibe.

 

[Fallout-NL]

So yeah, my dilemma is, I loooove driving around with the top down (los angeles weather ftw), but when all i said and done, the convertible just isn't a real M3. Sure, it makes all the right sounds, but since the performance isn't up to par, I might as well get a 3.35i

Anyways, all you car nuts out there, please persuade me and tell me why i should go with the sedan, or the convertible.

The sedan of course. Better handling. True M3.

I'd feel awful compromising on that. I'd just get something else entirely if it had to be a convertible.


Also, I would get the coupe version, looks tons better than the 4 door one.

After all, you're buying a car like this cause it's a driver's car. Getting a convertible in that case is a little blasphemous.

The 3M isn't a race car either. None of these cars are. Especially a sedan.

You're one to talk, you're recommending fucking American cars :lol.

 

[GSG Flash]

Don't know if you've made your decision yet, but I would have to go with the sedan. Four/Five seat convertibles look cheesy.

 

[Madvillain]

I've already decided on the sedan some time ago.

I'm just waiting for the 09's to get in at this point.

the coupe, as much as i like it, has jack shit space in the back. not to mention the back seat is literally split into 2.

 

[J-Rzez]

and to the guy who's saying get the GT-R.. good luck finding one under $90k+ (and then getting your warranty denied by Nissan).

I've seen them go anyways from sticker to +$20,000 mark up. How does your warranty get denied?

 

[Pterion]

I've seen them go anyways from sticker to +$20,000 mark up. How does your warranty get denied?

The car has a ''black box''. From what I've heard, if you haven't used the traction control + launch options, your warranty can be denied.

 

[Flo_Evans]

I saw on top gear or something that the GPS in the GT-R can tell when you are at a racetrack and removes the speed limiter.

You gotta admit that is pretty bad ass.

 

[Spectral Glider]

I'll answer this question with a question....

What would this guy drive?

 

[Madvillain]

I saw on top gear or something that the GPS in the GT-R can tell when you are at a racetrack and removes the speed limiter.

You gotta admit that is pretty bad ass.

yeah, i saw that too, it's pretty fuckin awesome to say the very least.

i gotta say though, as awesome as the car is, i personally think it's ugly over all.

 

[Azzurri]

Have you driven an Audi S5? It might not be as powerful as the new M3, but it's sure sexy. I've test driven a couple S5 and they have very good power. But it is a Coupe so I don't know if you would want that, reading what you liked in earlier posts.

I biased towards audi because I drive a B7 S4. My next car is going to be the S5 in 2 years.

Answering you question I would still get the Sedan, I'm not a fan of Conv.

 

[Azzurri]

I'll answer this question with a question....

What would this guy drive?

Audi A8L

 

[J-Rzez]

The car has a ''black box''. From what I've heard, if you haven't used the traction control + launch options, your warranty can be denied.

Why wouldn't you use them though? They make it so simple that a monkey can run good times at the track and strip all day long. It's not like the old launch/traction control system where they hurt your times more than help.

I saw on top gear or something that the GPS in the GT-R can tell when you are at a racetrack and removes the speed limiter.

You gotta admit that is pretty bad ass.

Only in Japan. That governor isn't on vehicles outside of Japan. But it is a cool feature to say the least if you were in Japan, to say the least lol.

i personally think it's ugly over all.

Not as elegant as a BMW, but every crease on that GTR is wind tunnel tested and proved. I thought they were a lil on the ugly side at first too, until I saw that black one. Sooo damn aggressive, mean, and sporty looking. A real head turner.

 

[Stinkles]

I saw on top gear or something that the GPS in the GT-R can tell when you are at a racetrack and removes the speed limiter.

You gotta admit that is pretty bad ass.

That is the greatest thing I ever heard.

 

[bionic77]

Audi A8L

Audi's have shit reliability. Of course if you can afford a car like that you can afford to send it to the shop every once in awhile.

I can't afford a M3, but I felt BMW priced the new generation of 3 series have been priced incorrectly. I am picking up my AWD 2008 IS 250 tomorrow (trading in a 2001 325xi) and while I am giving up the handling of the Bimmer I am pretty happy with what I am getting in return (reliability and a real luxury car interior and options at a reasonable price).

 

[My Arms Your Hearse]

Good god those are ugly. Remember when the M3 was awesome and relatively manly?

BMWs have been getting progressively uglier for six or seven years now it seems. And that's just the exterior... I won't even mention their terrible interiors.

 

[Mashing]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed that. Their interiors are complete ass.

 

[Madvillain]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed that. Their interiors are complete ass.

i totally disagree. having said that, i do kinda like the interior of the E46 more.

 

[rykomatsu]

That is the greatest thing I ever heard.

uh...i'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or not, but I believe the new GT-R has a GPS system that does have coordinates of racetracks and removes the limiter based on your coordinates. Might just be Japan only...but it's mentioned on quite a few places on the net if you search GT-R and GPS.

 

[Madvillain]

yeah, it's only in japan.

still an awesome feature none the less.

 

[elostyle]

Audi A8L

Didn't they use an A6 with a W12 badge slapped on in the movie - because the A6 was new at the time?

EDIT: Looking up pictures, I'm wrong.

 

[bionic77]

i totally disagree. having said that, i do kinda like the interior of the E46 more.

Go sit in the interior of a BMW and then sit in the interior of a Lexus or Mercedes and tell me if you don't see a notable difference.

It definitely isn't something totally horrendous like the interior of an average American car, but you don't get the feeling you are sitting in an expensive luxury sedan either.