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Bomberman, WTF happened to you?

Filler Bunny said:
Bomberman XBLA is true to the series. Why is everyone overlooking this?

I still bust it out at partys.
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The netcode was atrocious and the Bomb Kick was nerfed to irritating degrees.

I appreciate the effort behind that title but it just feels sloppy compared to the classics.
 
Bulzeeb said:
the best imo

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it also had the most interesting rivals and a descent plot twist
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NO!!!!!!!

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Listen to this glorious track. LISTEN TO IT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3-5-cqMxPQ
 
So many good memories with Mega Bomberman (Genesis.)

What, in GAFs opinion, was the last worthwhile Bomberman release? I haven't played any since the one on GBC where he was dressed like Indiana Jones on the cover...
 
Hero is pretty much the only non-multiplayer Bomberman worth a damn. And even that wasn't like a masterpiece or anything. Just decent.

What to do witth Hudson and Bomberman outside of porting the multiplayer formula under every plattform under the sun? I don't see anything.
 
Stencil said:
What, in GAFs opinion, was the last worthwhile Bomberman release? I haven't played any since the one on GBC where he was dressed like Indiana Jones on the cover...
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I recall the 2nd game on the DS being competent, if barebones. I liked Generations for its multiplayer customization options, even if the total featureset was lacking compared to Saturn, which is still king. Bomberman Live was kind of eh.

Those were the last 3 I played.
 
Konami was my favorite developer in the 80s and 90s... I guess it helped that I had an MSX2 computer as a kid... USAS, Vampire Killer, The Maze of Galious, Gradius, the original Metal Gear game, F1 Spirit... and their stuff was filled with in-jokes and cross references. They also did Suikoden and Silent Hill later on, which I also loved.

So yeah I hate reading about them being cold and corporate.
 
Videoneon said:
Pocket Bomberman? is that the game where Bomberman is dressed up in some Indiana Jones outfit on the cartridge, and one of his items is a whip? And the music in the first stage is all foreboding? I had that game back when I was a kid, but I wish I finished it.
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No, the Indiana Jones-themed Bomberman is Bomberman GB, aka Bomberman GB 2 in Japan because Wario Blast didn't have Wario in it in Japan and was just called "Bomberman GB". The games' great, and it's second on my list for a reason... well, nostalgia value for one since it was the first Bomberman game I owned, but also the gameplay. I really do think that it's a better game than any of the SNES ones. The multiplayer's great too, though it's very disappointing that the game has Super Game Boy only multiplayer, and doesn't support the link cable... ah well. It is my favorite SNES Bomberman game for 3-4 players, though. :)

As I said, Pocket Bomberman is a side-scrolling Bomberman platformer game. It's single player only, as well, but does have a fun (if shortlived, just like the main game) Jump mode as a second option.

Anyway, Generations and Jetters were circular bomb blast games,
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Generation and Jetters have circular bombs in the single player game only. The multiplayer mode is classic 2d-style Bomberman only -- the 3d arenas of the Bomberman 64 ("Baku Bomberman " in Japan) games, and the circular bomb blasts of the original Bomberman 64, are all gone. So they have it, but not only. Ideally there'd be a game which had both the 3d arenas and 2d ones, and circular or cross bombs as an option, but no such game was made...

but I agree that there's something that wasn't all that appealing about those games. I think the puzzles were weaker, but I also much preferred the speed from 64+second attack. Plus, the addition of Charabom abilities and bomb elements weren't handled well in those games; minimal as it was in second attack I preferred the handling of elemental bomb puzzles at least in that title. The other thing about Generations and Jetters as I remember them is that the designers were content to make the maps just big as fuck, while second attack featured long levels but felt more guided and had some decent pacing to it (a boss about halfway, a new bomb type, the generators at the end.)

Of course, second attack isn't all that great, but I enjoyed it a little more than Bomberman Hero even if I generally appreciate the hardcore long levels that the game had. Bomberman Hero unfortunately featured extremely annoying segments like the Marine or Snowboarding segments, but it often featured fun challenges, diverging paths, and the ranking system. It also lacks multiplayer like 64+second attack. But I agree with you that of the ones I've played, 64 is one of the best ever.
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I haven't played Second Attack much, so I can't really rate it... it's one of those few N64 games I don't have yet. Pricey one. As for Hero, I discounted it back during the N64's life because it had no multiplayer, but it is a good game. I wish that they'd stuck with the original plan and released it as a Bonk game though, I don't think it fits Bomberman all that well and it'd have been great to see Bonk get another game... plus then you wouldn't have the "where's the multiplayer" question. Ah well, as it is it is good, though a downgrade from the first Bomberman 64. I mean, the graphics aren't much improved? Hero's from late 1998, come on Hudson... and while the game is tough, and can be fun, I like Bomberman 64's more open levels more than Hero's linear ones, I think. Hero's a good game though, and I definitely like it more than the GC/PS2 ones.

One last thing...I didn't care much Bomberman Tournament. Five dungeons, win the game, boring charabom battles. old style Zelda Bomberman didn't work for me. Only thing I liked about the game was the boss theme for the first four of the five bad bombers.
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I like it... but yeah, Quest is good too. I said Tournament was better, but I'd have to play Quest again to say for sure which one I like more, it's been a long time since I tried that game. That's another thing they should have made more of, adventure-style Bomberman games. A console one might have been cool too, though I don't know if Hudson could have afforded such a thing...

Let's see...

Generations vs Jetters: I like Generations for being less directly anime-influenced, but I enjoyed Jetters as a game a little more. Just cant use those non-bomberman characters in multiplayer.
Bomberman World (PSX): liked it growing up, but it sucks
64 games: 64 > TSA > Hero
SNES: 2 > 1 >>>> 3 > 4 > 5. Didn't play the multiplayer for 3-5. 3 was the first game to just be another Bomberman game after coming up with the awesome first two. 4 introduces another group of bad bombers who are a lot less interesting and the game isn't particularly memorable anyway. Somewhat interesting concept with the time traveling, but there are too few zones for the concept to have any sort of real impact. With SNES 5, I love ambition but I don't have nearly enough patience for what 5 was asking for.
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Bomberman World is alright... it's definitely not great, but I do like it more than the other PS1 Bomberman game, Bomberman Party Edition; that games' single player mode is a remake of the original NES Bomberman game, which means it's quite boring compared to the later titles. At least World is a new game, and the prerendered graphics are okay.

As for the SNES ones, I have 1 and 4, and don't like either one very much. I don't know why, I just don't like the graphical design nearly as much. Give me the GB or TG16 games instead anytime.

SegaShack said:
Bomberman Hero is definitely my favorite from the series. Very fun levels with insanely weird creatures, lots of variety, and great gameplay. Bomberman himself transforms into a water vehicle for some levels, and you can ride blue kangaroos. It's an experience.
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Weird? Maybe that was some of that Bonk style surviving in the finished Bomberman game... Bonk games were often very weird.

As a kid I had Bonk for Gameboy and was surprised to see it at E3 2010. The game didn't control that well from what I remember and the jumping felt really off, but I only tried it for a few minutes
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The new Adventure Island game they published on WiiWare wasn't that great, but we'll never know if the Bonk game would have been better had it been finished... :(

Gunstar Ikari said:
Bomberman Generation surpassed 64 in nearly every way IMO.

Generation is pretty cool. The single player is something along the lines of 64. It's sort of slow-moving, but I had plenty of fun with it. The multiplayer is based on the classic games, instead of the 3D stuff that 64 did.
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Yeah... no. Bomberman 64 has better multiplayer (more original, while Generation/Jetters is just the 2d games again, same as it is everywhere else, except with a perhaps too cute visual/aural theme), and much, much better single player. The levels in 64 are much more complex. In Generation/Jetters, you just go from point A to point B, basically. The puzzles are lame and it's nowhere near as fun or interesting. 64 is the only Bomberman game constructed sort of like Mario 64 -- it's not just a linear-path game, you have to explore and do missions and such within each level. The game has mediocre at best graphics, but the gameplay's great... Generation, though, really disappointed me from the start. It's slow, not much fun, completely linear, loses most of what made 64 so good...

Jetters's multiplayer has several playable characters with different abilities, but the single-player is basically a watered-down (and even slower) Generation.
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I didn't play Jetters much, but it seems like a clone of Generation, pretty much. In the US the game released several years after Generation, but it makes more sense when you look at the Japanese release dates and realize that there both games released in the same year... Jetters was clearly a quick rehash. It's pretty sad that it also ended up being the last 3d Bomberman game.

Nose Master said:
You can't really do much with Bomberman. It's like Worms. They can only release the same game so many times.
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Despite my criticisms of the GC/PS2 ones particularly, Bomberman probably does have better 3d games than Worms does, so there is that... but yeah, both are things where the basic formula is set. Every 2d Worms game clones Worms 2, and most Bomberman games cloned the first Bomberman, or at least the first TG16 one (since the first NES game had no multiplayer!).
 
i blame two companies for the sad state of bomberman: konami & nintendo.

konami because, well… they gutted hudson and have done nothing but use the company's carcass as a fur coat since the buyout.

nintendo because of how close they were with hudson and how 'aligned' they seems to be in their philosophies… and when it came to the point where hudson was vulnerable to a buyout they did nothing.
Remember the hudson team that developed nintendo's mario party series? know where they're working now? NDCube. Irony at it's finest. NIntendo recruits the hudson mario party team, but couldn't finish the job and just buy the entire company already. ugh.
 
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Unless I missed it I'm kinda surprised that I'm not seeing much talk about this one. Lots of talk in here about the 64 games but yeah... did most people just not play it?

Saturn Bomberman with its 10-player local multiplayer was awesome
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I don't think any of the rest have gone beyond 8 at once.

EDIT: Yup, totally missed all the mentions on the last page. Whoops.
 
Yeah, Bomberman has all but disappeared... and it's a shame. Mega Man fans like myself have had it rough, but at least Capcom acknowledges his continued extisence and legacy by doing awesome things like allowing him to be in Smash Bros. Bomberman is just... gone, and Konami refuses to act like he ever existed. It's a shame.

I had some great times with Super Bomberman, Super Bomberman 2, and Bomberman 64. GREAT times. Wish the series was still around. :(
 
I always liked the story based Bombermans, but it wasn't until Bomberman Live that I had one of my favorite gaming experiences ever.

When it came out it was summer break and I was still a student, so I spent 8+ hours a day playing it so that I could stay in the top 3 on the leaderboards every week.

It was just so much fun - everything came together to make it a great experience for me.

There were exploits a plenty, and back in the day people still talked a lot on their mics, so I would use every trick in the book to make the other players really pissed off for my entertainment (I had no remorse back then).

From being able to kill people from across the map a few seconds into a match to being able to trap people so that they couldn't do anything, not even kill themselves, there was almost no limit to how many ways I could win a match.

And then when I managed to get into a match with any of the 10-20 players who were as good as me (not bragging, but if you do anything 8+ hours a day you're going to be really good at it) it changed into a really fast paced and strategic competition.

I literally spent the entire summer playing Bomberman Live obsessively, and I'll never forget all the fun I had.

Eventually I had to go back to school, and the player community dwindled.

It's a little disappointing to know that I'll never get to have that kind of experience again, both because I don't have that kind of time to dedicate and because there just aren't any Bomberman games coming out, let alone decently rated multiplayer online entries in the series.

Here's to the (tarnished?) legacy of Bomberman, maybe one day they will release one more big entry into the series and I'll get a chance to (try to) relive my glory days.
 
This thread reminds me that I need to find a copy of Saturn Bomberman and a multiplayer adapter. I hope it's not too expensive yet.
 
orphenshadow said:
Hands down the best version of bomberman I've ever owned...

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My best friend and I picked up a pair of saturns with netlinks in 99-2000 and would spend hours direct dialing each other playing bomberman.

There was a bomberman on xbox arcade on the 360 I think. But it wasnt nearly as fun. Perhaps its just the warm and fuzzies thinking about the glory days.
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Bomberman Online on the Dreamcast was equally awesome, but it never gets mentioned :(

I hope they release it on 3DS/Vita/PS4/XBONE.
 
this is one of my favourite DS games: I've spent HUNDREDS of hours with it, playing with a friends...

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so, it's sad to see it abandoned
 
So, I work for an indie developer and we are releasing 'Basement Crawl' on PS4, a game that's heavily influenced by Bomberman, at the beginning of next year. I just thought that this might be the right thread to find some people who are into it. The game will focus on multiplayer, both local and online. If you guys have any questions I would be more than happy to answer them!
Destructoid coverage of Basement Crawl...
 
Kouriozan said:
*brofist*
Best Bomberman game ever, Generations is very close.


Make that 6 now :p
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Make it seven. Hard to believe, but Bomberman 64 was the very first game I got for my N64. I had asked for Goldeneye, got Bomberman instead. The initial disappointment was strong... but I ended up having an amazing fun time anyway. Never have completed the game all the way, freakin' Sirius levels totally hosed me over.
 
Retro_ said:
It's like the only n64 game that didn't get old in my circle.

Mindless pick up and play fun. Stuff like the glove and ghosts and sudden death events kept the game exciting.
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This exactly. My two other friends on my street and I would play this game for hours weeks at a time. We used to go back to it every now and then even a decade later. The items work exactly like you say. All those crazy effects could turn a match instantly. Because there were only three of us, we even had this thing where we vilified the "red guy" since we all had our set colors. Such great times.
 
I absolutely loved paying Bomberman 64 and Bomberman Hero.. anything that came afterwards just didn't feel right to me. Loved the music in these games, and the crazy things you had to do with bouncing bombs off each other to get secret items.

Multiplayer was a blast too.
 
Don't know if anybody mention this game yet,

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It's one of my favorite bomberman game and IMO have lot of potential game-play wise, you can customize and create your bomberman with different play-style. Dunno how the game sell in Japan and US, though probably not a lot, since its the last bomberman game released on NDS.
 
They should bring 2-d Bomberman as an arcade title on PSN with local 4 player multiplayer. I would definitely buy that.

I miss the game, so much fun back in the days on Playstation 1. I remember i even imported the Japanese version because the North American one was delayed for like a year...good times !
 
FonkyByNature said:
They should bring 2-d Bomberman as an arcade title on PSN with local 4 player multiplayer. I would definitely buy that.
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Isn't Bomberman Live on PSN?

Actually, some part of Hudson is at Nintendo now, but I think they're stuck making Mario Party still.
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They have always been making Mario Party...never something else.

Doing contracts with Nintendo was the thing keeping Hudson afloat. They never did particulary well selling or even critically acclaimed games. Mostly just mediocore stuff, it was in danger of closing.
 
Killer said:
I wanna know the train of thought that led to this game.
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Actualy if you are a game executive with little care of the franchise, it is actualy harder to believe how this NOT happened sooner.

"so there is this game about a dude who bombs everything ... he is almost a terrorist maniacal ... LETS MAKE HIM CUTE !"
 
LMN said:
Don't know if anybody mention this game yet,

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It's one of my favorite bomberman game and IMO have lot of potential game-play wise, you can customize and create your bomberman with different play-style. Dunno how the game sell in Japan and US, though probably not a lot, since its the last bomberman game released on NDS.
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Wasn't even released in the US.
 
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