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Haha yea, though same thing, looked like Manny was in an mma fight against this guy.
sf2fanatic
Member
Rip Horn. Pac not going to around
ColdDeckEd
Member
That 10th round will go down as one of the biggest mistakes in boxing history. So digusted Pacman let him back in should've finished it.
sf2fanatic
Member
Na man. Not like this. He doesn't deserve a Vince McMahon screw job
Ninja Scooter
Member
He was probably complicit in this. This was all about a rematch with Horn to set up 2 big pay days. Manny's going out in a pitiful manner.
BLOODED_hands
Member
Setting it all up for dat second pay check, right Manny.
Pupperbabysassy
Member
This is bullshit!! Teddy, just like Lampley and the HBO are out of touch. Horn won that fight. It was really close and could have went either way. I had Manny winning the last two rounds but I would not argued the scoring.
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I say it was close enough for a draw, I wouldn't consider it a robbery for Horn. But 117-111 is dumb.
Cheetos is Pretty Awesome
Member
Yep. Pac IS a fucking carnie. Already saw this before with the first fight with Tim.
Fight was close but some of those scorecards are just wtf
sf2fanatic
Member
Rip Vegas.
sf2fanatic
Member
Pac taking this like a G. Much respect
E: Bradley looks like he wants to shake Horns hand
E: Bradley looks like he wants to shake Horns hand
Syphon Filter
Member
even though it was bs the fight was closer than some think. I need to watch it again.
sf2fanatic
Member
They showing replay next on espn2 shortly
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Horn is going to be a popular guy at welterweight. Easy pickings for a belt for the top guys.
BLOODED_hands
Member
Yup these two are what I'm feeling. For now, in my drunken state, Horn was beating Manny in the clinch game while Manny beat Horn nearly every else. Horn may have landed some decent power punches but, to me, Manny ourworked him via stats right now.
Sweeney Tom
Banned
Pretty much
pixelation
Member
You are wrong, i'm not even taking into account all of the dirty moves that the clown got away with, it was violation after violation and i am livid. The ref couldn't be more obvious with his favoritism and neither could be the judges (are we sure it wasn't a bunch of lobotomized chimps?).
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There's people in the other thread legit arguing that Horn won 8 rounds. 😒
Mr. Mister
Member
Wow. This was the dirty side of boxing - unfortunate. Though I'm sure they'll restart the hype machine for the big pay day rematch (and another to follow).
Ugh boxing is the worst. So much money in play wrecks it.
Ugh boxing is the worst. So much money in play wrecks it.
sf2fanatic
Member
I said this on other thread. What fight was the American female judge was watching..
ColdDeckEd
Member
Manny landed what it seemed like more significant shots but he would let up and let horn stay aggressive and busy. It's like a replay of the first Bradley fight.
Manny needs to just invest his money wisely and retire. If he had a drop of killer instinct left the fight would have been over in the 10th.
pixelation
Member
I'll be sure to add headlocks,rabbit punches and elbows into my next match then!
lightskintwin
Banned
Let me guess, you're an Aussie? LOL
Even with giving Horn the benefit of the doubt, I just can't see Horn even winning 6 rounds for a draw, much less more for a win.
pixelation
Member
Are you taking into consideration the fact that Horn clearly outweighed him? (knocking him out is harder), firing punches non-stop is very tiring? (like he was doing at the end of the 9th when he had him hurt) and the fact that he was being cautious due to the pigginess of Horn?, it's not as clean cut as it may appear at first.
BLOODED_hands
Member
Yeah I noticed that Manny kept letting Horn get busy and that might have persuaded the judges into giving the fight to Horn.
Manny needs to stop and retire. He makes enough money as it is.
lightskintwin
Banned
There's no question Horn's ineffective aggression and overall activity (punches thrown) is what swayed the judges decision. Also since it was in Australia, I knew after the fight was over there was good chance Horn may get the win, but when the first score card was announced as 117-111 and it appeared to be a unanimous decision; I just knew it must've been Pacquiao as the winner.
Boy, was I wrong.
Great fight. Had Manny winning like everyone else but I don't find it absolutely outrageous like Teddy and Stephen were making it out to be. One could argue that Horn was pressing the action a majority of the time and landed some good shots. He was fighting extremely dirty though which I thought they should call him out on during his interviews. That being said, 115-113 isn't THAT RIDICULOUS despite the compubox scores but 117-111 is downright hilarious.
Mr. Mister
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You weren't wrong. Just naive. This is boxing - sadly.
BLOODED_hands
Member
Lol. I was thinking that since it was in 'straya that Horn would get the win..... And he did..... I was sure that he wouldn't win despite being the hometown fighter..... Silly me!
lightskintwin
Banned
Horn was pressing the action and throwing a lot of shots, but he was missing most of them and Pacquaio was hitting him more flush. I can see how somebody would score the fight 115- 113 or even the ridiculous 117-111 for Horn if landing the more clean effective punches didn't matter to you.
Jest Chillin
Member
I don't know how anyone can question the outrage. Shit decisions are common enough but usually the judges have more sense than to score something as drastically as 117-111. That score alone suggests that either:
That judge is so incredibly incompetent that one must wonder how the shit the judge accreditation process must be
or
The judging was corrupted and this particular judge over-compensated early and wound up with a ridiculous score.
We all know judging isn't clean. Especially in international fights. But corrupt judging should at least respect the fans enough to make it look reasonable.
That judge is so incredibly incompetent that one must wonder how the shit the judge accreditation process must be
or
The judging was corrupted and this particular judge over-compensated early and wound up with a ridiculous score.
We all know judging isn't clean. Especially in international fights. But corrupt judging should at least respect the fans enough to make it look reasonable.
ColdDeckEd
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I get what you are saying but one, everyone Manny fights is bigger. And two, Horn was clearly hurt at the end of the 9th. My point was manny should've just thrown punches even if they didn't pack much of a power, at least to keep him backpeddling and on def. Instead he turtled up and let horn regain his wits a bit. The old Manny would've finished it.
sf2fanatic
Member
Did Waleska seriously gave Horn the first 7 rounds?
Jerm411
Member
Not one judge gave a 10-8 in the 9th either which is just beyond absurd....
lightskintwin
Banned
It happens. Pacquiao still made a cool 10 million, and has a rematch that everybody will be tuning in to see him avenge.
Two American judges and one Argentinian. If you can believe it.
This is just Karmic Justice for Manny taking this dumb ass fight to begin with. If he was going to lose, it should have been to a fighter earning the stage (Spence, Crawford, Thurman, Porter etc)
lightskintwin
Banned
I posted this in the Pacman hype thread:
I have no idea why I'm upset at the decision. LOL
I have no idea why I'm upset at the decision. LOL
BLOODED_hands
Member
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I need to watch this fight sober to get a better conclusion but, I wouldn't be surprised if I came to your conclusions.
Also because, me being Asian, I want another Asian person to win and stay semi-relevant lol.
I need to watch this fight sober to get a better conclusion but, I wouldn't be surprised if I came to your conclusions.
Also because, me being Asian, I want another Asian person to win and stay semi-relevant lol.
I had Horn winning 115-113. Stop listening to the commentary when you're watching a fight and score it yourselves. You'll be surprised at how many "bad" decisions turn out to be either right or close enough to not get worked up over.
Horn is an Ugly fighter with a capital U. His footwork makes him look like a lunging oaf a lot of the time, and he was constantly crossing over with his right foot in ways that look really bad, but Pacquiao never really punished him for it, and he piled up a lot of points early in the fight. The 9th round was a borderline 10-8, but even if I had scored it that way, Horn still won 114-113.
Horn is an Ugly fighter with a capital U. His footwork makes him look like a lunging oaf a lot of the time, and he was constantly crossing over with his right foot in ways that look really bad, but Pacquiao never really punished him for it, and he piled up a lot of points early in the fight. The 9th round was a borderline 10-8, but even if I had scored it that way, Horn still won 114-113.
illmatic22
Banned
Top Rank shoulda just fed Pacquiao to Crawford and buildup their next guy.
I'm not sure Pacquiao can make 140 at this point, and I don't think that's a fight worth being Crawford's move to 147. I mean, Crawford would wipe him out at either weight, but I just don't see it making sense for either of them right now.
The Indongo fight is way more interesting for Crawford at the moment, and he doesn't have to move weight for it.
lightskintwin
Banned
The commentary literally has no effect on me.
Out of the first 10 rounds, I had Horn winning the 1st, 6th, 7th, 8th, and 10th. I had the 8th close but scored to Horn since we were in Australia.
So on reflection, I don't think the right guy won, but I don't think it was a robbery either.
Pupperbabysassy
Member
Let me guess, you're from the Philippines? Lol
I was rooting for Manny in this fight. He looked flat and Horn was doing enough to win early rounds. I actually thought Manny won a close fight. In close fights, this can happen. It's not a robbery like the morons on ESPN were screaming.