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Breaking: Active shooter at Delta State Univ. Campus (Mississippi); 1 dead

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Pretty simple imo - ban guns going forward, tax ammo heavily, institute a gun exchange program for a price that sets the incentive correctly.

You can't go take away guns from people who own them already, but thats the path.

Not just tax ammo heavily, I love chris rock idea make bullets insanely price it will make most of those getting them think twice. We can have better background checks and I think people should have to take yearly or quarterly pshycological exams.

Banning guns isn't a solution it would start an internal war the government and this country doesn't want. The nuts are real and they have already pledged it happens they kill off a lot of people within our borders who don't side with them. The problem isn't the reasonable people it's the assholes who want to keep them and will cause problems as they are taken away.
 
Not just tax ammo heavily, I love chris rock idea make bullets insanely price it will make most of those getting them think twice. We can have better background checks and I think people should have to take yearly or quarterly pshycological exams.

Banning guns isn't a solution it would start an internal war the government and this country doesn't want. The nuts are real and they have already pledged it happens they kill off a lot of people within our borders who don't side with them. The problem isn't the reasonable people it's the assholes who want to keep them and will cause problems as they are taken away.

Gun nuts will start a war if we let them keep their guns?
 
Gun nuts will start a war if we let them keep their guns?

You said ban guns that can imply a lot.

You must have no awareness of alex jones gun nuts or conspiracy gun nuts on the subject. Not hard to find the theory floating about the un coming in and taking guns with their response to it. Not making it up go look and considering those are the people who would cause problems I doubt most people in this country are willing to take that chance of inciting them.
 
Get rid of guns please, I really rather this not be me or the people are care about :S

Yes because getting rid of guns makes sense to the criminals who have the guns. The gun control situation needs to calm down. A lot of areas with high gun rate have nothing to do with guns and can be fixed with society changes.
 
Not just tax ammo heavily, I love chris rock idea make bullets insanely price it will make most of those getting them think twice. We can have better background checks and I think people should have to take yearly or quarterly pshycological exams.

Banning guns isn't a solution it would start an internal war the government and this country doesn't want. The nuts are real and they have already pledged it happens they kill off a lot of people within our borders who don't side with them. The problem isn't the reasonable people it's the assholes who want to keep them and will cause problems as they are taken away.

People won't start a war.

You said ban guns that can imply a lot.

You must have no awareness of alex jones gun nuts or conspiracy gun nuts on the subject. Not hard to find the theory floating about the un coming in and taking guns with their response to it. Not making it up go look and considering those are the people who would cause problems I doubt most people in this country are willing to take that chance of inciting them.

Policy decisions shouldn't be dictated by alex jones gun nuts. fuck em.
 
I dunno guys i feel like an asshole for being not surprised anymore. I mean i hope all goes well but in my head i have a "oh another one" kind of feel.
 
People won't start a war.

That's a nice hypothetical but considering waco, ruby ridge, and other incidents don't really think the government takes your stance on that one. Nuts have spoken and the government never cleans house with them or avoids it. Don't think so remember the stand off with ranchers a few years ago, where was the US balls then. These groups or mindsets are real and will respond or have responded. This government doesn't want the problem of inciting these groups with that threat only idealists do. History and reality are with me on this one.

Nuts jobs aren't making policy decision our will to survive and not cause unnecessary shit does. There are real ways to deal with a lot of the gun problems we just don't have balls to do anything like the POTUS has said multiple times now.
 
Ban. Fucking. Guns.

If you own a gun or support gun ownership, you contributed to this - harsh, but that's become my worldview.

That's not how political change works. Especially when half the country is against it.

We need tighter regulations. But after having babies slaughtered, I really doubt anything will happen. I thought that would be the breaking point, but the gun lobby only dug into their heels and their political allies did the same thing.
 
As callous as it is to think or say, I hope the victims were white, since nobody cares when blacks or latinos die. But then again, nobody cares about white people either when they die by a random gunman.

Fuck this society who values guns over people...

You probably expected more attaboys for this one.
 
That's not how political change works. Especially when half the country is against it.

We need tighter regulations. But after having babies slaughtered, I really doubt anything will happen. I thought that would be the breaking point, but the gun lobby only dug into their heels and their political allies did the same thing.

Yes, admittedly not a realistic view. But are "tighter regulations" realistic at this point either? Its just so disheartening. I just want gun owners to look inward and truly ask what they're holding onto and if its worth it for them.
 
Yes, admittedly not a realistic view. But are "tighter regulations" realistic at this point either? Its just so disheartening. I just want gun owners to look inward and truly ask what they're holding onto and if its worth it for them.

Both Canada and Sweden have legal gun ownership, but they have extremely tight regulations. So there's a model there.

But Canada keeps gun legal mostly for their hunting hobbyist. I don't think you can own handguns.

You can own handguns in Sweden, but their regulations are really strict.
 
Yes because getting rid of guns makes sense to the criminals who have the guns. The gun control situation needs to calm down. A lot of areas with high gun rate have nothing to do with guns and can be fixed with society changes.

Society Changes. The nice thing about pointing at this as a solution is it's vague enough to not mean anything, so thankfully it buys a lot of extra time to procure more guns.

Guns becoming more expensive and less numerous reduces the number that are lost or stolen each year and, by the way, that can be smuggled into Canada and other countries from the U.S. Yes, other countries don't want to deal with our gun problem either, but they soon will because guns last a really long time and with our gun culture it's seen as patriotic to have one, which is extra stupid.

Few people suggest across-the-board gun bans as a realistic solution. But reducing the gross number of guns that enter the marketplace each year will have a no-brainer result, and closing gun show loopholes and encouraging background checks for all citizens in every state is a good first step in solving the issue. After those two things are done, we can revisit and see if we're having a mass shooting every fucking day.
 
...wow, the bolded statement is incredibly disgusting. To dismiss the murder of someone just because they're not statistically significant enough to you... ... wow.

Do you actually think every single personal, targeted murder that happens every day is newsworthy?

To frame this as me being heartless is beyond disingenuous or at the least, entirely missing the point. It's obviously a tragedy but it is a personal and local one.
 
Do you actually think every single personal, targeted murder that happens every day is newsworthy?

To frame this as me being heartless is beyond disingenuous or at the least, entirely missing the point. It's obviously a tragedy but it is a personal and local one.
It is when there is an active shooter on the loose who has already killed two people so yes it is important.
 
I will never understand why people come into threads they have no desire to hear about just to say "GAF GAF GAF" all day. I also don't understand why they'd spend so much time on a forum with so many people that have opinions they can't stand..boggles the mind.
 
I will never understand why people come into threads they have no desire to hear about just to say "GAF GAF GAF" all day. I also don't understand why they'd spend so much time on a forum with so many people that have opinions they can't stand..boggles the mind.
Yeah, the "hivemind" and "extreme liberal" bombs always make me chuckle. I've got news for you: when you have an extremely diverse community, including many from outside the U.S., that's what you're going to get.
 
Breaking News: Single person murdered, GAF reacts like another Virginia Tech has happened

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What is special about this? What does it have particularly to do with America? People are murdered every day in every country on earth. What evidence does anyone have that this was a shooting spree? The media only directly encourages this sort of overreaction by saying a "shooter stormed" onto campus. Nothing to support any of that.



Why what happens so often in schools? Many more single-target murders occur on the average street or business than in schools.
That is barely the norm. Yeah people die all around the world but mostly from non-gun incidents. Take for example here in Australia, we had for the first time in a while a shooting in a public place in a McDonald's down on the Gold Coast of Queensland. It was between a ex-bikie who had the means of gaining access to a gun and his estranged wife.

Now the outcome was a terrible one where the lady was shot in the head and it shows we need to further our support for domestic violence especially, but its an outlier because our country is far better at gun control that these kind of incidents are rare enough. This incident in America is, as others have out it, another day in which someone is shot. The fact it took place in a school is even worse as that should be a place of safety and learning, not somewhere else to fear your life.
 
Breaking News: Single person murdered, GAF reacts like another Virginia Tech has happened

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What is special about this? What does it have particularly to do with America? People are murdered every day in every country on earth. What evidence does anyone have that this was a shooting spree? The media only directly encourages this sort of overreaction by saying a "shooter stormed" onto campus. Nothing to support any of that.



Why what happens so often in schools? Many more single-target murders occur on the average street or business than in schools.

They also count school property as campus, even if its miles away from the actual school. A few years back there was a shooting in a parking lot that just happened to be school property, was like a dispute between 2 people. Media of course called it a school shooting to whip everyone into a frenzy.
 
They also count school property as campus, even if its miles away from the actual school. A few years back there was a shooting in a parking lot that just happened to be school property, was like a dispute between 2 people. Media of course called it a school shooting to whip everyone into a frenzy.

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Sounds less like a school "shooting" in the typical sense and more like the professor was targeted specifically. Also, the fact that I can say "school shooting in the typical sense", and expect people to know what I mean, is pretty fucked up.
 
Yes because getting rid of guns makes sense to the criminals who have the guns. The gun control situation needs to calm down. A lot of areas with high gun rate have nothing to do with guns and can be fixed with society changes.
People who use this excuse seem to act like illegal guns just materialize out of the air. The vast majority of these guns were purchased or stolen from either gun shops or gun owners. If those sources didn't exist, where are the criminals going to get their guns?
 
Sounds less like a school "shooting" in the typical sense and more like the professor was targeted specifically. Also, the fact that I can say "school shooting in the typical sense", and expect people to know what I mean, is pretty fucked up.

It's still a "school shooting" because it happened in a school. But by the FBI definition, it's not a "mass shooting" like you normally expect in a US school because there weren't 4 or more victims shot in quick succession.
 
If these 'gun nuts' are really so dangerous and threatening to start a war on the governmant.
Then why the hell havent they all been arrested.

They sound like terrorists to me.
 
It's still a "school shooting" because it happened in a school. But by the FBI definition, it's not a "mass shooting" like you normally expect in a US school because there weren't 4 or more victims shot in quick succession.

It's already on every major news site here in Belgium.
 
They also count school property as campus, even if its miles away from the actual school. A few years back there was a shooting in a parking lot that just happened to be school property, was like a dispute between 2 people. Media of course called it a school shooting to whip everyone into a frenzy.

Media is the problem really. Nothing else...
 
It's still a "school shooting" because it happened in a school. But by the FBI definition, it's not a "mass shooting" like you normally expect in a US school because there weren't 4 or more victims shot in quick succession.

Right, I believe that most people are inclined to jump to the conclusion that when they hear "school shooting" that it is also a "mass shooting". It probably has to do with the way media has covered shooting's post-columbine.
 
Media is the problem really. Nothing else...
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This is horrible; We've become so desensitized to these shootings that trying pass any form of much needed gun control is the legislative equivalent to throwing rocks at a tank.
 
Yes because getting rid of guns makes sense to the criminals who have the guns. The gun control situation needs to calm down. A lot of areas with high gun rate have nothing to do with guns and can be fixed with society changes.

Attempting to ban or regulate guns cause prices to go up which means the amount of criminals that can have them decreases. It's basic economics. Supply and demand, the kind conservatives like to preach so much about understanding. (Remember, government interference always makes markets more inefficient! Except the gun market, then it will have no effect!)
 
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