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Actually, we've been getting a lot of Mike too. But think about it guys, what else is there to do with Skylar? The Hank episodes will come though, so I'm not worried about it.
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Breaking Bad - Season 5, Part 1 - Sundays on AMC
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I think it's intentional. It's showing how much Walt's actions affect other people. Skyler is an emotional prisoner of his at this point.
triplestation
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Everything in this show is intentional and thoughtful and brilliantly planned. Breaking Bad I think has the best production of all of film-making history.
Grinchy
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I can just see it now. The show starts with a man stopping to buy a GQ magazine to see the current trends in men's fashion, and then he goes to buy a gun. We never see his face until right before the opening credits, but when we do, he's doing the Blue Steel.
Infinite Justice
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I think they bought them again using the startup money Jesse gave the team. Especially since the "Crystal Ship" was destroyed due to Hank getting too close
SpeedingUptoStop
will totally Facebook friend you! *giggle* *LOL*
Feels like Jessie is a little short changed this year, yea. Mike has more to do, and I wouldn't mind that so much if that didn't mean clearly he was going to die soon. :-/
Willkiller
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I can't see Mike outlasting Jessie. Once Mike is gone which I suspect will be by the end of episode 8 it'll be the Jessie, Walt and Hank show finally!
Quick question (it might been answered, didn't see it) -
At what point and why did Walt stole the poisoned cigarette from Jesse?
I'm really drawing a blank here.
She's written as hindrance to the hero, her main function through the first 3 season (they fix it a bit in season 4) was to stand between Walt and awesome drug related scenes.
And she's not written like an antagonist you're enjoy hating, just a buzzkill, and no one likes a buzzkill.
At what point and why did Walt stole the poisoned cigarette from Jesse?
I'm really drawing a blank here.
But that her problem as a character.
She's written as hindrance to the hero, her main function through the first 3 season (they fix it a bit in season 4) was to stand between Walt and awesome drug related scenes.
And she's not written like an antagonist you're enjoy hating, just a buzzkill, and no one likes a buzzkill.
Admiral Bone to Pick
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How dare she be afraid of a serial killer and drug lord.
Skylar hate really is irrational.
Wiggum2007
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Were 3 episodes in duders chill I'm sure bushy eyebrow carwash man will have his time to shine
FantasticMrFoxdie
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Such an awesome episode.
VAMANOS!
VAMANOS!
From Old Joe as Jesse (that's it people it's J-E-S-S-E) mentions that in this last episode.
Huell did it for Saul near the end of s4 when he searched Jesse.
Walt is not the hero.
The "awesome drug related scenes" involved Walt putting his entire family in danger.
Sky didn't just stand between the viewer and those moments like an intrusive ass. She would call Walt or talk to him and say "where are you disappearing to for hours we have a family and you have cancer and I'm worried sick" and he wouldn't give a shit. That's not quite the same.
She lacks any sort of compelling story arc at the moment. Her being wide-eyed and fearful around Walt doesn't make for interesting TV and kinda sucks considering previous seasons. In any case, here's hoping she starts hittin' the crystal with JR. That would be interesting.
BertramCooper
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Skyler is so ratting out Walt to Hank.
Souless_PJ
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She knows nothing of this. People need to stop projecting what the audience knows. From her prospective Gus was a person with cartel connections that had everyone in her family in lockdown because of Hank's investigation and Walt dueled off with him and won which saved them.
The way she is behaving is that he is worse than Hitler.
tycoonheart
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Its not that she is afraid of him its that her fear of him has accelerated very quickly. I would have preferred for it to have happened gradually. She has always been able to stand up to Walt but now she has gone completely mute, not even being able to utter a word. She had always been shown as a pretty vocal, strong character so the way she is being portrayed in Season 5 isn't sitting too well with me.
Same thing with Saul. Walt and Jesse almost blew his head off in Season 2 but Saul was able to keep his cool, be who he is, joke even when he was on the verge of being murdered. But all of a sudden he is scared shitless.
I have big issues with the 180 those two characters did from Season 4 to 5, where only a few days (maybe a week?) has passed.
Infinite Justice
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I just looked at my post and realized i spelt it wrong LOL
So Walt flees, family goes into protective custody, Walt changes his identity, and then...?
foodtaster
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i don't care what they have to do, I just want walt jr. or hank to be the final villain in this show. it will be glorious.
The One and Done
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I swear to god I fucking hate Skyler. Fucking cunt.
Ruh ROH
BertramCooper
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Profit!
She's been in some of the most chilling and haunting moments of the season so far.
Her portrayal of being a prisoner to Walt is fantastic. Her breakdown in front of Marie is on par with Jesse's after killing Gale.
Not compelling? Pffft.
The Mana Legend
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TrumanBurbank
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He defends himself from Mike and Jesse.
Thanks!
(I'll have to re-watch it).
He's the hero of the show, as much as there is one.
Yeah, but we tune in to watch Walt put his family in danger, I mean, the adventures of the responsible chemistry teacher who get some financial help from his rich friends is not all that exciting to watch.
I don't like Skylar because most of her scenes (and again, it got better in season 4) boring arguments with Walt, and in these scenes, we are almost always rooting for her to fail.
She a wet blanket on the show.
That doesn't mean she's wrong, it just mean that I don't want to see her all that much.
It's not in line with the person they constructed her to be. Out of nowhere she became this docile, submissive person, not to mention the transformation was way too expedited to be convincing at all.
The Mana Legend
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Jesse is the hero of the show. That's the point. At the beginning, Walt comes out looking like the hero, while we all think Jesse is just a dumb drug addicted punk.
They switch roles through their character development. Jesse is now the hero who will have to save everybody at the end, and Walt has become the villain due to his actions and his uncaring towards the consequences for those actions.
The Mana Legend
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He killed a man. And shows no remorse at all in his actions.
That's different than "oh you make drugs and are slightly bossier than usual."
Of course everything is intentional. But that doesn't mean it isn't flawed.
BertramCooper
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Her husband blew up a drug kingpin in a nursing home, for fuck's sake.
Is it really so shocking that she'd be disturbed by this?
A ruthless drug lord who threatened to kill his entire family. Cry me a river.
Her acting, whether instructed to or not, is on an entirely different level than 'disturbed'.
You're confusing protagonist with hero.
From her perspective, just a year ago her husband was a high school chemistry teacher and now he's cold blooded killer who set off a bomb in a nursing home to kill his former drug lord boss. And he doesn't seem to regret anything or has any plans of stopping.
The change for her this season is sudden I guess, but my sense of time in the show is off. These feelings had to be brewing once they went into lockdown and she started to realise how deep she and Walt are in this. It feels like a lot more than a year since he started cooking.
I truly hope that's the direction the show is headed (I think it is).
But it actually doesn't matter to my argument regarding Skylar.
Yes I am, it's a language thing (same word in my native tongue).
She just found out Ted is paralzyed by some of her direct actions, found out Hank was targeted because of Walt, Walt has committed cold blooded murder, terrorism, and doesn't seem to be bothered by it one bit.
She should totally be just having popcorn and watching scarface like Jr though. right?
The Mana Legend
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Are you fucking serious?
metalslimer
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Ok, I can understand like Walter as a character and hating Skylar character in terms of how good they are written and their development because quite frankly I don't think Skylar has always been used very well compared to walt, but wtf at pretending like she is some cruel monster for cheating on a drug dealer. And unlike Walt whose bullshit family excuse went out the window after he turned down gretchen's money Skylar only decided to break bad to help Hank. While Walt loves his transformation into drug lord, Skylar is actively showing how much she hates it.
On another note I have to say, the drug cook scene was absolutely amazing. Does anyone have the gifs of the cellular transformations happening?
Oh and Walt was so fucking disgusting this episode. The scene with Marie made me want to go in and punch him. The scene with him playing Scarface in front of baby was so antagonistic towards skylar as well with them having the tv up loud enough so that she could here it. The scene with Walt manipulating Jesse to break up with his girl and then ignoring him when he tries to have a convo about it. Oh I just finished The Shield this weekend and I would be happy with a similar ending.
On another note I have to say, the drug cook scene was absolutely amazing. Does anyone have the gifs of the cellular transformations happening?
Oh and Walt was so fucking disgusting this episode. The scene with Marie made me want to go in and punch him. The scene with him playing Scarface in front of baby was so antagonistic towards skylar as well with them having the tv up loud enough so that she could here it. The scene with Walt manipulating Jesse to break up with his girl and then ignoring him when he tries to have a convo about it. Oh I just finished The Shield this weekend and I would be happy with a similar ending.
Who could possibly say no to family movie night? I say that's a bigger crime than anything Walt has ever done.
metalslimer
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Skylar's transformation was perfectly normal. Walt's crawl space scene along with blowing up a nursing home would and should leave a normal person in fear. If anything Walt's transformation to complete lack of empathy for anyone around him is more unrealisitc. Every single scene he has had so far this season has been a complete manipulation. I was actually happy to see Jesse and Walt just relaxing like friends until I realized Walt was playing him like a fool again.
i guess you come from the world in which you find out your spouse you've been married to for years is suddenly capable of planting bombs in nursing homes to murder someone and then you bake him a cake and act like everybody is the same
it's not just his act, by the way, which is abominable and which any sane/moral person on Earth would react in horror to. It's the way Walt is clearly relishing the kill. Skyler only then begun to realize that Walt is more than a horrible meth producing habitual liar, but that he is a sociopath who literally is capable of anything.
Any wife in that situation who wasn't horrified is
a.) amoral
b.) clearly in on the plan from the get go and is fine with murdering
I still don't know why this is considered a transformation. Walt has manipulated from day 1.
Really? Out of curiosity what language? I feel like a lot of subtlety of discussions of literature might be lost without being able to identify the two as separate concepts.
ToyMachine228
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Do you guys not see that even if Hank knows, he probably won't be able to pursue Walt? Walt paid for Hank's medical treatment. Hank's recovery was paid for by drug money. His boss just got fired for having Gus over to a barbecue. Can you not connect the dots? If Hank takes Walt down, it likely means his ass too. Which, maybe he'll end up doing it and calling it quits, who knows, there's another conflict there.
Also, for those of you complaining about screen time, I think it's a product of the season being split into 8 and 8, which I personally think is a bad move. I wish they just had a 16 episode season, or even one normal length season. It seems to me thus far that the show has lost a lot of its subtlety so far this season because they're trying to move things along quickly to undoubtedly leave us with a big cliff hanger at the end of the first "half". I have no doubt that Hank will get his fair share of screen time during this season as his character simply has to play a major role in the climax of the series. But through the first two episodes I even felt like Jesse was off-screen too much. It's because of the way they're doing this season, and the fact that it's the last. I have no doubt.
Also, for those of you complaining about screen time, I think it's a product of the season being split into 8 and 8, which I personally think is a bad move. I wish they just had a 16 episode season, or even one normal length season. It seems to me thus far that the show has lost a lot of its subtlety so far this season because they're trying to move things along quickly to undoubtedly leave us with a big cliff hanger at the end of the first "half". I have no doubt that Hank will get his fair share of screen time during this season as his character simply has to play a major role in the climax of the series. But through the first two episodes I even felt like Jesse was off-screen too much. It's because of the way they're doing this season, and the fact that it's the last. I have no doubt.
metalslimer
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It's more the level of it that I see. He hasn't had a normal scene with anyone this entire season. For example Walt and Jesse in the desert or the whole Fly episode.
Uh...why would it be his ass? He didn't know about the money, and the law wouldn't be against him. What would they do, reverse his physical therapy?
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