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Breaking News: Yoichi Wada resigns as Square Enix CEO, likely being replaced by CFO
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Blood Diamonds
Banned
Their problem is they can't seem to get ahold of their freaking budgets and get games out in a timely fashion. When you spend 3-4 years on a game after constant delays and the laborious creation of custom engines, it gets to the point where there's no reasonable way to turn a profit.
The fact that Tomb Raider moved 3.4mil already and is considered a failure is preposterous, even with the brand recognition.
There's something very rotten at the heart of this company, and it all started when they began to run off all their core talent that made them successful in the first place.
The fact that Tomb Raider moved 3.4mil already and is considered a failure is preposterous, even with the brand recognition.
There's something very rotten at the heart of this company, and it all started when they began to run off all their core talent that made them successful in the first place.
And after Wada is gone we will get
Versus
KH3
I'm good.
Not yet. It's not a complete victory until someone fires Toriyama's ass.
This is more suitable though.
"Ding Dong The Witch Is Dead"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHJoj9IqeKg
Lightning Lord
Banned
I think it's less that it sold well and more that they personally wanted to.
Gotta use up all of those assets somehow.
Really depends on who you ask. Some people think that XIII-2's sales were good enough to justify a third based on the current market (and not juxtaposed to X-2's sales). Personally, I think only getting less than half of the original fanbase on-board isn't all that great in the grand scheme of things. And XIII-3 seemingly manages to only try to attract a subset of people who liked XIII-2 (and also liked XIII) by aiming at the "Lightning crowd" alone.
If they are serious about this management shakeup (which they might be, when considering that they didn't even wait for XIV 2.0 to bomb before booting Wada), it actually might.
They are learning ALL the wrong things from western development.
Right, but that all depends on what happens after this, the sole resignation of Wada doesn't really confirm anything other than he's taking the fall for these losses.
SatelliteOfLove
Member
XIII wouldn't be HALF as divisive as it stands currently if XIV wasn't cancer and a XV was nearing release. Hell, we would probably be seeing a few "LTTP: FFXIII" threads from once haters going back over it with a different view now that the heat's off that game to be all-great to all people.
We didn't get that. We only got the sequels. And a busted ass MMO. And no Versus. And no once-Agito-supposedly-great-fuck-if-the-rest-of-the-world-can-find-out-for-themselves-Type 0. And no Bravely Default. FFXIII is STILL the face of FF. STILL.
I keep saying this, but the Lightning situation for many is apathy overstaying its welcome till it becomes hatred. The games she's in follow suit.
Pretty much. I remember Final Fantasy XII was really divisive as well across the internet on its release. Now that game is considered one of the greatest JRPGs from last gen.
I didn't actually mind FFXIII, but I still think XIII-2 was an absolute waste of time, and something that I never really wanted.
Toriyama has his own unique skills, but directing and story telling is NOT one of them IMO, well at least it's not to my taste, that's for sure.
ShockingAlberto
Member
Wada was not the obstacle standing in front of Versus and KH3.
What was?
ShockingAlberto
Member
Every other game they deemed more financially viable.
An audience that was turning far more western in its taste.
Rocketing game budgets.
Wada wasn't sitting at a desk firing e-mails saying "If you finish Versus XIII or start KH3 I will fire you."
He probably wanted those games out the door or being shown to the press but he trusted people below him too much in the assumption that they knew what they were doing with those titles.
And ultimately... who drove those decisions?
ShockingAlberto
Member
I'm not saying he's entirely divorced from the situation, but the idea that Versus would be out and amazing right now if only Mean Mr. Wada were not holding it under his boot is fucking lunacy.
Anticitizen One
Banned
Thanks to Wada we got a bunch of junk instead of:
- An actually good FF XIII with towns
-FF 7 remake
-FF Vs 13
-Kingdom Hearts 3
-An announcement of FF XVI a next gen single player FF for PS4
-A whole new slate of exciting games going forward
A real shame what could have been
- An actually good FF XIII with towns
-FF 7 remake
-FF Vs 13
-Kingdom Hearts 3
-An announcement of FF XVI a next gen single player FF for PS4
-A whole new slate of exciting games going forward
A real shame what could have been
PshycoNinja
Member
Sure. Was Wada a big contributing factor for why Versus XIII still hasn't been marketed properly or gotten any info since 2011? Probably. But I think it is more complex then, "Oh all of Versus problems is Wada's fault". I think it's all a mix of:
- Inter-office politics between Kitase, Hashimoto, Toriyama, Nomura and other upper management.
- Nomura's perfectionism
- Marketing and PR prioritizing marketing XIII sequels and other games a majority of fans do not want instead of Versus.
- Managements delay of putting the game into full production and sustaining the team so as to complete the game in a timely manner
... And probably a number of other problems we will never learn about.
Femmeworth
Banned
You left out Crystal Tools being a bust.
Is Wada viewed negatively by Japanese gamers?
I think they should have stayed with UT3, since they managed to make The Last Remnant in a good amount of time. They just needed to give it more time so that they could finally work with it on the PS3.
The little engine that couldn't.
I think they should have stayed with UT3, since they managed to make The Last Remnant in a good amount of time. They just needed to give it more time so that they could finally work with it on the PS3.
airmangataosenai
Member
Nah, I liked XIII by the end of it but even at launch long-time fans of the series struggled to truly endorse it. Controversial decisions regarding the emptieness of the world aside, the way the game stays in tutorial mode for the MAJORITY OF THE FUCKING GAME is disgusting. You're like, 2/3 through the game before gameplay options such as selecting your party open up? What were they thinking?
SatelliteOfLove
Member
You and I are not who will make those threads. But they would've been made. This changes nothing in my prediction. It's happened with just about every mainline entry.
ZombiePlatypus
Member
While you're right, the hope is that his exit is an indication of a change in the entire direction that SE's heading in. It's hard to imagine Wada gone without some sort of a shake-up to follow.
You are joking, right?
They also didn't put a quarter of the time and money into those as they would have for the remake people wanted from FFVII. This is the other reason that tech demo was damning, if it weren't for that I could see a lower end one being done for PSP, new backgrounds in order to fit widescreen, and updated character models. It's all I would've wanted, beyond a translation that was actually on par with their later standards anyway. But now that they screwed up and got everyone worked up on frothing demand it's go all in or only re-release.
The Final Fantasy stuff is interesting to ponder, but the actual comments about the revised forecast deal with the western side.
“The Company forecasts that actual business results from its Digital Entertainment Segment substantially fall below its plan primarily due to slow sales of major console game titles in North American and European markets."
Square Enix is specifically focusing on the poor performance of the Eidos titles dragging them down this fiscal year. It was Wada who oversaw the purchase of Eidos, and it was Wada who steered Square Enix towards a much more western focused philosophy as a publisher. That focus on the west has been a complete bust thus far.
I find the timing of this resignation to be far more related to the failure of the Eidos acquisition to actually generate any profits, and the continued failure of their focus on the west thus far. I imagine that's where we'd be more likely to see some significant shake-up happen due to this resignation.
“The Company forecasts that actual business results from its Digital Entertainment Segment substantially fall below its plan primarily due to slow sales of major console game titles in North American and European markets."
Square Enix is specifically focusing on the poor performance of the Eidos titles dragging them down this fiscal year. It was Wada who oversaw the purchase of Eidos, and it was Wada who steered Square Enix towards a much more western focused philosophy as a publisher. That focus on the west has been a complete bust thus far.
I find the timing of this resignation to be far more related to the failure of the Eidos acquisition to actually generate any profits, and the continued failure of their focus on the west thus far. I imagine that's where we'd be more likely to see some significant shake-up happen due to this resignation.
IrishNinja
Member
this would've made a fantastic first reply
Better to wait a year or two and lament not celebrating than to celebrate only to see everything go to shit.
ZombiePlatypus
Member
Of course I'd ideally love for a full-blown, monster console remake, a la the FFVII tech demo on the PS3 for its time. But honestly, I'd be happy with an "up-make" of sorts for the Vita or 3DS. But no, apparently SE felt FFXIII-3 needed to be made instead. :/
Acrylic7
Member
please no FF7 remake, just please lave it alone. If people want to play perfection then just play it as it is.
ZombiePlatypus
Member
Aesthetically, VII could legitimately use an update. I love its clumsy-cute graphics, but the game will have new life injected into it if it gets a PS3 tech-demo caliber, or even OoT 3DS style update.
don't you want to see a Gackt inserted HD Nibelheim sequence?
any sort of remake from the people at S-E will fail entirely in making it resemble the original
I know I do.
Professor Beef
Banned
The only reason I don't want an FF7 remake is because that Genesis horseshit will be shoehorned into it. No thank you.
Anticitizen One
Banned
No. Any smart CEO would have done that.
Guess I'll just have to join Chaos then. Oh well.
encephalon
Member
We live in exciting times. Will things get better? Or worse? Or will Square behave exactly the same in order to appease shareholders?
that's what they're doing right?
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Yup. That, and I don't think they'd be able to fit some of the stuff I liked in there. There is no way that they won't shoehorn the compilation bs in there. They have to at this point, to lead into AC and DoC... and to come from CC.
I'd rather have a worldwide version of Before Crisis for portables or something. *shrug*
Reworking Before Crisis with higher quality spritework and backgrounds and releasing it digitally on all portable platforms (3DS/Vita/iOS/Android) with a unified server and account would be one of the more interesting things S-E could do.
Which is to say, they'll never do it.
Which is to say, they'll never do it.
TryHardShounen
Banned
Well, I hope the new CEO doesn't abandon all the work that's been done towards rebuilding FFXIV 2.0.
Professor Beef
Banned
At this point, I'd rather they just re-release FF7 as is, but with the controls fixed and *maybe* the translation touched up a bit.
I like the cut of your jib
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