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[Holepunch]

I dunno it just seemed too token "Think of the children" sterotype to be taken seriously, I swear if that's this guys honest opinion he would probably be blogging in compassion for Hitler.

Everyone treats everyone with these PC kid gloves now, if shes that insane she didn't understand what she did was wrong, or more than likely is just sadistic then she shouldn't be allowed in normal society.

Honestly, that probably my biggest problem.

Once you realize that all ignorance is usually instilled by the last generation, and their ignorance was instilled in them by their last generation, its hard to hate someone for being racist or xenophobic because they probably had little choice in the matter.

Put that in with the fact that anyone who does acts of violent or anything ethically questionable is either their upbringing or something that is simply wrong with their mind or thought process.

It leaves me with the ability to find empathy with well...anybody. Even Hitler. I wouldn't say he was justified but its not like he tried to be a monster. He honestly thought what he was doing was for the betterment of society. It also makes me wonder if punishment in society isn't so much as protection of society or a deterrent but simply the majority getting its revenge.

I just realized this is massively de-railed now. Evolution of conversation I suppose.

 

[ZombieSupaStar]

well when I see the good in the people I think are good, it makes it easier in cases likes these to say "theyre just fucked, game over".

Id focus those feelings on people out there deserving of them, is what im saying. If thats what you choose to do i mean.

 

[MC Safety]

It leaves me with the ability to find empathy with well...anybody. Even Hitler. I wouldn't say he was justified but its not like he tried to be a monster. He honestly thought what he was doing was for the betterment of society. It also makes me wonder if punishment in society isn't so much as protection of society or a deterrent but simply the majority getting its revenge.

No, he was really a great guy!

You win the Internet.

 

[Freshmaker]

Don't get me wrong, this is reprehensible, but when can we start getting reports on the horrible treatment of animals in slaughter-houses?

Worse, there's the aftermath of naming your kid Cheyenne Cherry.

 

[blame space]

Honestly, that probably my biggest problem.

Once you realize that all ignorance is usually instilled by the last generation, and their ignorance was instilled in them by their last generation, its hard to hate someone for being racist or xenophobic because they probably had little choice in the matter.

Put that in with the fact that anyone who does acts of violent or anything ethically questionable is either their upbringing or something that is simply wrong with their mind or thought process.

It leaves me with the ability to find empathy with well...anybody. Even Hitler. I wouldn't say he was justified but its not like he tried to be a monster. He honestly thought what he was doing was for the betterment of society. It also makes me wonder if punishment in society isn't so much as protection of society or a deterrent but simply the majority getting its revenge.

I just realized this is massively de-railed now. Evolution of conversation I suppose.

Anyone who fails to think for his or herself fails at human existence, regardless of what the previous generation instilled upon them.

 

[Holepunch]

No, he was really a great guy!

You win the Internet.

Not great... just heavily misguided.

Anyone who fails to think for his or herself fails at human existence, regardless of what the previous generation instilled upon them.

If someone fails to think for themselves...do you think they chose not to? Same argument:lol

In more seriousness...what if humans are not as complex as we think? We seem to define our intelligence as greater than something like Artificial Intelligence because we can actually think while computers can only react to stimuli in pre-defined ways. I can see no way to prove that humans don't do the exact same thing. Humans just may be reacting to stimuli in the same pre-defined way since we were born, but only previous stimuli memories affect how we react now. There is a probable chance we are nothing more then a well put together BIOS.

well when I see the good in the people I think are good, it makes it easier in cases likes these to say "theyre just fucked, game over".

Id focus those feelings on people out there deserving of them, is what im saying. If thats what you choose to do i mean.

Well sure, seeing the reason to praise someone comes natural. Its getting harder for me to find hate though. Is it really a bad thing to not be able to hate someone?

Congratulations. You wholly derailed the thread and attempted to marginalize Hitler's great evil.

Again, please feel free to claim your prize: One Internet.

Didn't mean to. It just so happens that every conversation about morality ultimately boils down to the person we see as most evil for our time, Hitler. Now then, accepting this internet, do I just keep hitting print?

 

[MC Safety]

Not great... just heavily misguided.

Congratulations. You wholly derailed the thread and attempted to marginalize Hitler's great evil.

Again, please feel free to claim your prize: One Internet.

 

[Movement]

what a little bitch. A giant kitty should throw her in a stove.

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

burn her!

 

[ZombieSupaStar]

Well sure, seeing the reason to praise someone comes natural. Its getting harder for me to find hate though. Is it really a bad thing to not be able to hate someone?

No need to hate, I just view them as a waste, like I said too many decent people out there to waste energy on the failures. At least in my opinion.

 

[Ophiuchus]

my cousin cooks cat and eats it all the time.......snake and rabbit too... pretty good stuff. we also buy live chickens and kill them in our tub with a 2x4 to the head.....fun times

 

[blame space]

my cousin cooks cat and eats it all the time.......snake and rabbit too... pretty good stuff. we also buy live chickens and kill them in our tub with a 2x4 to the head.....fun times

And suddenly, somehow, without warning or reason, my stance for animal rights is preserved.

 

[evil solrac v3.0]

Honestly, that probably my biggest problem.

Once you realize that all ignorance is usually instilled by the last generation, and their ignorance was instilled in them by their last generation, its hard to hate someone for being racist or xenophobic because they probably had little choice in the matter.

Put that in with the fact that anyone who does acts of violent or anything ethically questionable is either their upbringing or something that is simply wrong with their mind or thought process.

It leaves me with the ability to find empathy with well...anybody. Even Hitler. I wouldn't say he was justified but its not like he tried to be a monster. He honestly thought what he was doing was for the betterment of society. It also makes me wonder if punishment in society isn't so much as protection of society or a deterrent but simply the majority getting its revenge.

I just realized this is massively de-railed now. Evolution of conversation I suppose.

yeah, you know, plenty of people grew up where this punk-ass kid lives and they choose not trash people's homes and their burn their pets alive.
just like the case of the kids here in the nyc subway who beat up a guy for no reason and the father of one of the girls himself actually turned the girl in and publicly apologized for her behavior. see? a seemingly good (or bad) upbringing does not equal good or sadistic people. she CHOSE to do these things and now she has to get punished. hard if preferably.

trying to justify people's behavior by saying "well, it's not their fault, they had a bad upbringing." well, that's no excuse because it means we are not creatures of free will but rather automatons. and i think you can agree that we all choose to do things regardless of our upbringing or our environment.

 

[Strike]

That's some fucked up shit.

 

[NotWii]

GIVE HER THE ELECTRIC CHAIR!

 

[Holepunch]

yeah, you know, plenty of people grew up where this punk-ass kid lives and they choose not trash people's homes and their burn their pets alive.
just like the case of the kids here in the nyc subway who beat up a guy for no reason and the father of one of the girls himself actually turned the girl in and publicly apologized for her behavior. see? a seemingly good (or bad) upbringing does not equal good or sadistic people. she CHOSE to do these things and now she has to get punished. hard if preferably.

trying to justify people's behavior by saying "well, it's not their fault, they had a bad upbringing." well, that's no excuse because it means we are not creatures of free will but rather automatons. and i think you can agree that we all choose to do things regardless of our upbringing or our environment.

Perhaps upbringing wasn't my best idea to convey. I had a more complex thought in the post after, I'll just repost it below instead of making you dig for it.

In more seriousness...what if humans are not as complex as we think? We seem to define our intelligence as greater than something like Artificial Intelligence because we can actually think while computers can only react to stimuli in pre-defined ways. I can see no way to prove that humans don't do the exact same thing. Humans just may be reacting to stimuli in the same pre-defined way since we were born, but only previous stimuli memories affect how we react now. There is a probable chance we are nothing more then a well put together BIOS.

This a bit more developed of what I was trying to say. I cannot find fault in anyone because as far as I can tell, people don't have the choice to whether or not make a choice(lovely wording I know). If we are just a system of basic thought developed through stimuli and genetics, then who is to blame? The peers? The parents? The parents of parents? Ultimately if you accept no one has a choice of their own thought process then you have no one to blame for their faults.

I'm starting to confuse myself now...I'm going to think of an example to explain this when my brain is less tired.

 

[Speevy]

Even Hitler loved kittens.

 

[-PXG-]

Is the bitch crazy? Yes. Is what she did wrong? Yes. Should she go to jail for ALL of the things she did? Yes. Is killing a cat as bad as killing a human? No.

/thread

 

[blame space]

Is the bitch crazy? Yes. Is what she did wrong? Yes. Should she go to jail for ALL of the things she did? Yes. Is killing a cat as bad as killing a human? No.

/thread

How is this /thread? I desire to know, oh great one, what punishment should fit this crime. Let me know?

 

[KRS7]

Cherry told authorities that she and her accomplice "thought we would play a joke on Valerie and mess up her apartment."

:lol :lol :lol

Wow, she has a great sense of humor. It reminds me of the time I threw my friends puppy in a wood chipper. Can you believe that? A fucking wood chipper! :lol :lol We still laugh about it to this day. He got back at me by burying my two cats under his new drive way. We are such jokesters.

 

[-COOLIO-]

what is it with disturbed teenagers and cooking cats?

 

[-COOLIO-]

I hear they actually kill the animals in slaughter houses!

Spoiler

there's a difference between an animal you intend to eat or intended for human consumption and just torturing an animal because you can

there's a bigger discrepency actually.

the difference is between killing animals in the most efficient way possible for food

and

torturing and killing kitten for your pleasure in the worst way possible. it's cute little paws were scratching against the searing hot metal door and she heard it

 

[evil solrac v3.0]

Perhaps upbringing wasn't my best idea to convey. I had a more complex thought in the post after, I'll just repost it below instead of making you dig for it.



This a bit more developed of what I was trying to say. I cannot find fault in anyone because as far as I can tell, people don't have the choice to whether or not make a choice(lovely wording I know). If we are just a system of basic thought developed through stimuli and genetics, then who is to blame? The peers? The parents? The parents of parents? Ultimately if you accept no one has a choice of their own thought process then you have no one to blame for their faults.

I'm starting to confuse myself now...I'm going to think of an example to explain this when my brain is less tired.

culture and knowledge expand our way of thinking. it makes us evolve so that we aren't brutal savages (at least most of us...)

 

[blame space]

If someone fails to think for themselves...do you think they chose not to? Same argument

In more seriousness...what if humans are not as complex as we think? We seem to define our intelligence as greater than something like Artificial Intelligence

oh jesus fucking christ...

 

[evil solrac v3.0]

there's a bigger discrepency actually.

the difference is between killing animals in the most efficient way possible for food

and

torturing and killing kitten for your pleasure in the worst way possible. it's cute little paws were scratching against the searing hot metal door and she heard it

yeah, she need a beat down, STAT!

 

[blame space]

there's a bigger discrepency actually.

the difference is between killing animals in the most efficient way possible for food

and

torturing and killing kitten for your pleasure in the worst way possible. it's cute little paws were scratching against the searing hot metal door and she heard it

and the ends are somehow justifiable by the means? Still not buying.

 

[-COOLIO-]

Is the bitch crazy? Yes. Is what she did wrong? Yes. Should she go to jail for ALL of the things she did? Yes. Is killing a cat as bad as killing a human? No.

/thread

y'know, a human dying is a dearer loss for humanity i certainly agree with that right now. but with most human murders the reason for killing someone is because of how they were or something they did. if someone is willing to kill an innocent creature as tortuously as she did, how far do you think they'd be from killing a person just as easily and terribly?

that's just my two cents.

and the ends are somehow justifiable by the means? Still not buying.

we'll personally im not againt killing animals for their meat, but this isnt about that. it's about how much we can trust someone with the capacity to do something like she did in society. what she did was truly horrible and goes way beyond the slaughterhouse industry

btw does the article mention anything about a fucked up childhood? just curious.

 

[Albino_Samurai]

Is the bitch crazy? Yes. Is what she did wrong? Yes. Should she go to jail for ALL of the things she did? Yes. Is killing a cat as bad as killing a human? No.

/thread

That's your opinion.

I reccomend amputation so the bitch can never do such a thing again.

 

[blame space]

we'll personally im not againt killing animals for their meat, but this isnt about that. it's about how much we can trust someone with the capacity to do something like that in society.

Like the people who work in slaughterhouses/factory farms?

 

[demon]

Jesus that's fucking awful. Killing animals humanely is one thing, but purposefully torturing a cat by slowly cooking it to death is a sign there's something fucked with your head. I hope she gets some kind of 'treatment'.

 

[-COOLIO-]

Like the people who work in slaughterhouses/factory farms?

no she's completely unlike the people who work in slaughterhouses, who do it as a job, without torturous intent, for producing food.

if you honestly can't see why they aren't anywhere on the same level i find that ridiculous. who would you rather have babysitting your dog for a week? cat cooking bitch or a slaughterhouse worker?

 

[NovemberMike]

there's a bigger discrepency actually.

the difference is between killing animals in the most efficient way possible for food

and

torturing and killing kitten for your pleasure in the worst way possible. it's cute little paws were scratching against the searing hot metal door and she heard it

This. Killing something as painlessly as possible because it is going to feed somebody is different than torturing somebody. Much like a soldier shooting somebody that is firing back is different than cutting a persons head off with a hacksaw.

 

[MidnightScott]

Sick bitch

 

[Karakand]

Some behaviors that seem symptotic of the teens here.

 

[blame space]

no she's completely unlike the people who work in slaughterhouses, who do it as a job, without torturous intent, for producing food.

if you honestly can't see why they aren't anywhere on the same level i find that ridiculous. who would you rather have babysitting your dog for a week? cat cooking bitch or a slaughterhouse worker?

So compensation somehow justifies taking the life of something for personal gain? Bullshit.

This isn't about what's acceptable, it's about what's morally sound. Who's more likely to commit harm to a helpless animal, a cat-cooking bitch or a slaughterhouse worker?

This. Killing something as painlessly as possible because it is going to feed somebody is different than torturing somebody. Much like a soldier shooting somebody that is firing back is different than cutting a persons head off with a hacksaw.

:lol Are you serious with that analogy? At least the other guy had the balls to admit that he subscribed to a double-standard.

 

[harSon]

no she's completely unlike the people who work in slaughterhouses, who do it as a job, without torturous intent, for producing food.

if you honestly can't see why they aren't anywhere on the same level i find that ridiculous. who would you rather have babysitting your dog for a week? cat cooking bitch or a slaughterhouse worker?

Depends on what you consider torture; feeding animals foods that make them sick for the majority of their life sounds like torture, or possibly feeding them till the point of becoming immobile, maybe even keeping the animals in a cage a few inches larger then the animal itself could count. I understand the difference and consider what she did beyond fucked up, but let's be real

 

[TheCardPlayer]

:lol Are you serious with that analogy? At least the other guy had the balls to admit that he subscribed to a double-standard.

Do you try your hardest to not get it? Or are you just trying to piss people the fuck off?

 

[-COOLIO-]

:lol Are you serious with that analogy? At least the other guy had the balls to admit that he subscribed to a double-standard.

wait.

a) am i the other guy? did i admit to something? because i dont think ive conceded anything.

b) that analogy is perfect.

 

[blame space]

wait.

a) am i the other guy? did i admit to something? because i dont think ive conceded anything.

b) that analogy is perfect.

c) you admit that you play favorites when it comes to cooking an animal.

 

[-COOLIO-]

Depends on what you consider torture; feeding animals foods that make them sick for the majority of their life sounds like torture, or possibly feeding them till the point of becoming immobile, maybe even keeping the animals in a cage a few inches larger then the animal itself could count. I understand the difference and consider what she did beyond fucked up, but let's be real

torturous intent

the animals probably arnt that cosy. true. standards in slaughterhouses need to be brought up, i havnt done any research on it but that seems to be the consensus. anyway the point is if these workers had the choice, they'd put down every animal as humanely as possible.

c) you admit that you play favorites when it comes to cooking an animal.

you mean id rather cook a dead animal? that's playing favorites?

So compensation somehow justifies taking the life of something for personal gain? Bullshit.

This isn't about what's acceptable, it's about what's morally sound. Who's more likely to commit harm to a helpless animal, a cat-cooking bitch or a slaughterhouse worker?

are you asking me that? the cat cooking bitch, if you were trying to make a subtle point there it went right over my head.

and yes, as far as being a sound person fit to live in society goes, yes killing an animal in the context of a slaughterhouse is fine.

 

[blame space]

torturous intent

the animals probably arnt that cosy. true. standards in slaughterhouses need to be brought up, i havnt done any research on it but that seems to be the consensus. anyway the point is if these workers had the choice, they'd put down every animal as humanely as possible.

you mean id rather cook a dead animal? that's playing favorites?

:lol Whatever bullshit logic helps you sleep at night.

 

[evil solrac v3.0]

Jesus that's fucking awful. Killing animals humanely is one thing, but purposefully torturing a cat by slowly cooking it to death is a sign there's something fucked with your head. I hope she gets some kind of 'treatment'.

no, really hope not.

 

[harSon]

torturous intent

the animals probably arnt that cosy. true. standards in slaughterhouses need to be brought up, i havnt done any research on it but that seems to be the consensus. anyway the point is if these workers had the choice, they'd put down every animal as humanely as possible.

They can, it's called not working there.

you mean id rather cook a dead animal? that's playing favorites?

No, you'd rather cook beef or chicken rather than cat, dog, rabbit, hamster, etc.

 

[-COOLIO-]

They can, it's called not working there.

ok you've got to be kidding me. so everyone in slaughter houses TORTURE animals for the FUN of it? and if you're working in a slaughterhouse you probably don't have your pic of jobs.

No, you'd rather cook beef or chicken rather than cat, dog, rabbit, hamster, etc.

no, i never said that. i said killing an animal in a slaughterhouse for their meat was fine. if cats were 300 pounds heavier and tasted like beef id eat their asses instead.

 

[evil solrac v3.0]

:lol Whatever bullshit logic helps you sleep at night.

dude, it's not the same thing,ok? it just isn't. you're too blind with that self-righteous attitude to see the difference?

do you honestly think that a lot of the slaughterhouse workers go in the morning thinking "i'm gonna burn that fucking cow 'cause i don't like how it makes noises when it chews its food" because that's what this crazy trollop did.
SHE. THOUGH.T IT. WAS. FUNNY. TO. BURN. A. CAT!!!!

her own words,not mine.

 

[-COOLIO-]

:lol Whatever bullshit logic helps you sleep at night.

this isnt a intelligible response. it's cookie cutter. look watch this:

lol Whatever bullshit logic helps you sleep at night.

see, i could post the exact same thing and applies to you because you're not making any sense

 

[blame space]

are you asking me that? the cat cooking bitch, if you were trying to make a subtle point there it went right over my head.

and yes, as far as being a sound person fit to live in society goes, yes killing an animal in the context of a slaughterhouse is fine.

:lol omfg i am rofl irl

But really, statistically and factually, you are wrong.

 

[blame space]

dude, it's not the same thing,ok? it just isn't. you're too blind with that self-righteous attitude to see the difference?

do you honestly think that a lot of the slaughterhouse workers go in the morning thinking "i'm gonna burn that fucking cow 'cause i don't like how it makes noises when it chews its food" because that's what this crazy trollop did.
SHE. THOUGH.T IT. WAS. FUNNY. TO. BURN. A. CAT!!!!

her own words,not mine.

I ask you this: if she ate the cat, would it be justified? Serious question.

 

[evil solrac v3.0]

I ask you this: if she ate the cat, would it be justified? Serious question.

we don't throw cows or chickens or pigs ALIVE in an oven sir. i barely know how to cook and even i know that.

 

[demon]

no, really hope not.

She's not going to jail. So you'd prefer a cat torturer to not receive psychological treatment at all?

Oh and Blame Space, you're plain nuts.