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Buffy The Vampire Slayer / Angel Official Discussion Thread.

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I still can't believe Wesley ended up my favorite.

I know, right? I found him so annoying on Buffy. Then again I don't think I liked any of the characters on Buffy who went to Angel (including Angel). Weird how they ended up being my favorite 3 out of everyone on both shows.
 
Can't get through this Season of Angel at all. Conner is horrible.

Conner is probably the only bad "main" character of the series.

He had so much potential =(

I still can't believe Wesley ended up my favorite.

He sucked in Buffy and then he was awesome in angel and then he hit rock bottom after
kidnaping that girl to find angel's location on the sea
and then he became awesome again in the last season
 
Man I really dug that 1950s episode. The show should do more episodes of Angel in history. Also that demon design was sick as hell.

That bellhop is the principal from Phil of the Future. Why do I know that?

Kind of wish Angel was a lot older than 200.

Angel's dreams are getting super steamy. Darla is super hot. It's too bad her voice is really really annoying.
 
I know, right? I found him so annoying on Buffy. Then again I don't think I liked any of the characters on Buffy who went to Angel (including Angel). Weird how they ended up being my favorite 3 out of everyone on both shows.

Cordelia in particular, she truly became the "heart" of the show, like they liked to say. Who would thought the selfish, vain cheerleader from Sunnydale had it in her?


Conner is probably the only bad "main" character of the series.

He had so much potential =(

I think he was steered in the right direction in the last season, and if we had had another season people would have ended up liking him.
 
Maybe this was noticed before or talked about here....by the way I loved Buffy,I still have all the season on DVD,when I use to collect them...anyway,I will have to look it up if some of you want to know but it was something so fast and I am not sure what season it was,I think,one of the last 2 ....in one scene in a school,near lockers,one of the students in the background that you see for like 5 seconds is Evangeline Lilly,before she was even known from Lost lol...


Long live Buffy,the series was awesome.
 
I finished! All of Buffy, all of Angel. 244 episodes, 10,922 minutes. I started back in June. There's way too much I could say, it's kind of like falling into a black hole once you start talking about it. Luckily my friend is a huge fan and I will go to her house and talk for hours about. All I'll say is Wesley Wyndam Price, the rogue demon hunter himself, is the best character between both shows. Who would've thought after that shit in Buffy, oh god..that kiss with Cordy.
 
I finished! All of Buffy, all of Angel. 244 episodes, 10,922 minutes. I started back in June. There's way too much I could say, it's kind of like falling into a black hole once you start talking about it. Luckily my friend is a huge fan and I will go to her house and talk for hours about. All I'll say is Wesley Wyndam Price, the rogue demon hunter himself, is the best character between both shows. Who would've thought after that shit in Buffy, oh god..that kiss with Cordy.

Yup, did exactly that at the exact same period last year (a bit quicker though :p)

That withdrawal syndrome.
 
Man, Angel is so freaking unlikable these last couple of episodes. I mean I get it, he's disillusioned, depressed, obsessed, vengeful, but still, the way hes acting is irritating.

Also Zombie cops are so silly.

And it was nice seeing Denver again.
 
I know you guys were saying that Angel is so much better, I knew you guys weren't lying, but the believability of such a statement is low when one is watching Buffy.

This series has already surpassed Buffy to me only after season 2. The characters are so good, I don't actually dislike any main character that gets screen time. Season 3 episode 3 is the best episode that I've seen so far.
 
I know you guys were saying that Angel is so much better, I knew you guys weren't lying, but the believability of such a statement is low when one is watching Buffy.

This series has already surpassed Buffy to me only after season 2. The characters are so good, I don't actually dislike any main character that gets screen time. Season 3 episode 3 is the best episode that I've seen so far.

You'll hit a slight dip during the fourth season, but prepare for the emotional roller coaster when you reach season five.
 
This series has already surpassed Buffy to me only after season 2. The characters are so good, I don't actually dislike any main character that gets screen time. Season 3 episode 3 is the best episode that I've seen so far.

I think it's because the series takes itself a bit more seriously. There's a larger story arc, all the characters grow a lot, and there's a core theme to the show that evolves (redemption). So it feels a bit more rewarding than Buffy does, even though I think Buffy is probably more entertaining in general.

That withdrawal syndrome.

Oh god, I know. I watched both shows in like a month and afterwards nothing really satisfied. So I ended up watching a lot of random episodes until I got bored.
 
The only character I genuinely disliked was Connor. Wrong actor, wrong approach, wrong character. That storyline had so much potential but they really botched it all around.
I am surprised Lorne doesn't get mentioned more often. He went from "wtf is this annoying thing" to "oh god I love him" character.
Like I said earlier in this thread: I wish I could erase everything I knew and watch both shows as a Buffy and Angel virgin..
 
Yea it's actually really good, the combat system was a lot of fun.

It's dated (naturally), but both games are still fairly fun.

I got both in a mom & pops game store for a couple bucks each brand new and still bust em out once a year or so.
 
Eliza Dushku lent her voice for Chaos Bleeds also, but not at the same time as the rest of the cast. The best thing about Chaos Bleeds is the extras with all the interviews and behind-the-scenes stuff. And a playable Joss Whedon in multiplayer. Everything else was crap because they recycled the animations of the first Buffy game but didn't take the engine. So the fights and movement were just plain inferior. And a lot of the details were just plain wrong, such as vampires not being hurt by sunlight, Spike being killable by vampire bite and Xander as a playable character who knows how to fight hand-to-hand. Fake Buffy voice was ok, but Fake Willow voice was far worse.

The Xbox Buffy game is the only one to manage to capture the spirit of the show and be a good action video game. I loved the secret multiplayer glitch that lets other players take control of NPCs in the single player, including enemies. It ended up becoming like Counter-Op mode in Perfect Dark.
 
I bought Chaos Bleeds a couple months back because I remember hearing good things about the Buffy game on Xbox. Unfortunately it was the other game that people were talking about and CB is complete shit. I would imagine the original hasn't aged well and isn't worth it at this point, but I still might pick it up since it is playable on the 360 and I like the cover. A Buffy game on PS4 by Naughty Dog would be amazing. I feel like ND would be able to capture the writing and the general style of the show really well. Or maybe Rocksteady, with that Batman style combat hmmmm
 
The original Xbox Buffy game is really good. It has great cutscenes that act like a "lost" episode of Buffy (has all actor voices except SMG) and fighting mechanics. It's also really cool discovering all the ways you can kill vamps (stake and behead obviously, but then there's kicking them into wood furniture (though that doesn't always work), putting holy water into a fountain and pushing them into it, etc). It has a level near the end that is WAY too frustrating and platform heavy, but I still recommend it.

At least in Chaos Bleeds, you get to play as Sid the puppet.
 
I was watching that playthrough and the faces on the models are actually not bad at all. It's also hilarious seeing video game models of the characters of the show act like the characters from the show, such charm.
 
The episode where
Cordelia becomes part demon
is so well done.

I'm almost there guys, I am trying to finish Angel quickly, and the show being good is making this very easy.
 
Lmao at Angel and Lindsay in the Dead End episode, they're comedy gold.

*slaps Lilah's butt*
Ohh nooo my evil hand

COPS SUCK

"I got these evil hand issues and I'm bored with this crap." "You can chase me but remember.... *knocks hand on desk* ....evil." "........Charlie......"

Great ep, was my favorite for the longest time. Life of the Party in season 5 is comedy gold.
 
Holtz is a piece of shit, I hate this motherfucker. He ruined Conner, and fucked over everyone. I cannot handle Wesley being split up, all of the feels frustrate me, but I am enjoying this. Can't wait to hate Conner based off of what everyone has said about him. So far, he's OK
 
Holtz is a piece of shit, I hate this motherfucker. He ruined Conner, and fucked over everyone. I cannot handle Wesley being split up, all of the feels frustrate me, but I am enjoying this. Can't wait to hate Conner based off of what everyone has said about him. So far, he's OK

Lol "So far he's Okay"? Of course he is when he's still a baby shitting in a diaper.
 
Holtz is a piece of shit, I hate this motherfucker. He ruined Conner, and fucked over everyone. I cannot handle Wesley being split up, all of the feels frustrate me, but I am enjoying this. Can't wait to hate Conner based off of what everyone has said about him. So far, he's OK

They a had a huge break (something like three months) when it was airing live after the episode
where they lost the baby and Wes has assumed dead
OMG we all about went nuts.
 
I'm on episode S03E21

I just think that's a low benchmark when all baby characters in movies/tv shows are normally nothing more than plot and/or backdrop.

They a had a huge break (something like three months) when it was airing live after the episode
where they lost the baby and Wes has assumed dead
OMG we all about went nuts.

I didn't get into the show till Buffy S7/Angel S4 so I missed all that. Had to watch FX/DVD's to catch up. Sounds almost like Star Trek TNG when "Best of Both Worlds Part I" aired.
 
I just think that's a low benchmark when all baby characters in movies/tv shows are normally nothing more than plot and/or backdrop.
I wasn't talking about the baby, I was talking about when Conner came through portal/kissed the girl/met Angel/fought in the club, blah blah.
 
Lilah, please die.

She actually turned into one of my favourite characters in the show.

For two seasons or whatever, she was just an everyday evil person. But (season 4 spoiler)
when she started sleeping with Wesley and Wolfram & Hart was attacked by the Beast, we saw a side that we hadn't really before - her vulnerability. When Cordelia kills her, I actually felt pretty sad.
 
She actually turned into one of my favourite characters in the show.

For two seasons or whatever, she was just an everyday evil person. But (season 4 spoiler)
when she started sleeping with Wesley and Wolfram & Hart was attacked by the Beast, we saw a side that we hadn't really before - her vulnerability. When Cordelia kills her, I actually felt pretty sad.
ooooo I can't wait.

I'm on S04E05

EDIT: oooooooo
that Willow appearance in Season 4. She is such a breath of fresh air,
favorite character no question.
 
It's been so long since I watched the series I didn't even realize Tara's cousin was Amy Adams.

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Granted, she wasn't known back then but wow. And she looks the same too. What a beautiful woman.
 
Finally getting around to watching season 5 of angel, this is probably the best content in all of buffyverse imo.
Spike + angel is a glorious combination.

Not to mention wolfram and heart stuff mixed in, AND connor is gone thank GOD!
 
So far, season 5 is kind of dumb.

It takes a while to get going. The strength of S5 is the characters, not the stories. Without a doubt the best cast of the whole show. Even the supporting characters I thought were great. Eve is so god damn cute

GOD DAMN WESLEY
SHOOTING HIS DAD WITHOUT HESITATION. Cold blooded
 
Once again I know what you guys are saying is true. To me the premise of Season 5 seems like some kind of fan fiction shit. Like the whole series was supposed to end
when Jasmine was killed.

I know I'm talking bullshit though, I know what happened before.

- I talk shit about Angel at the beginning.
- I actually watch it.
- I take back what I said about it.
 
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