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Bulletstorm PC to use GFWL

bishoptl said:
Horrible news. GFWL borked my Dawn of War II install on two separate machines - I won't be picking up another GFWL title, period.
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So after all this time the real reason for your departure from Relic comes to light. :lol
 
Sinatar said:
So after all this time the real reason for your departure from Relic comes to light. :lol
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:lol

In all seriousness though, sorry for all those folks that have had such issues with it. Certainly doesn't help my opinion of it and yeah, would have preferred Steamworks.
 
Gully State said:
One other thing that bugs me about GFWL and maybe it isn't a GFWL thing but matchmaking for DOW2 was horrible. A lot of times it would take 5-10 min and up to 15 min to match into a game. I admit this could be due to the DOW2 multiplayer community not being big enough though (we'll see with retribution going to steam).
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It's a GFWL thing. Trueskill freaking sucks for RTS. I could be on at peak hours, with 3k other players online, and the matchmaking still takes forever.

That and the MS Cert process are why Relic jumped ship to Steamworks. One of the devs flat out said, that they wouldn't have used GFWL, if Steamworks had been ready to go.
 
K.Jack said:
It's a GFWL thing. Trueskill freaking sucks for RTS. I could be on at peak hours, with 3k other players online, and the matchmaking still takes forever.

That and the MS Cert process are why Relic jumped ship to Steamworks. One of the devs flat out said, that they wouldn't have used GFWL, if Steamworks had been ready to go.
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Hopefully they will use the same Steamworks features Valve is building in for DOTA 2 for all their future RTS games.
 
FLEABttn said:
I'm surprised Stumpokapow didn't mention locked saves. My old computer died back in July, 30 hours into Fallout 3. No biggy, I anticipated the issue because it was acting up and I backed up my save to an external hard drive. Except that it was locked to my old computer and refused to load once I had reinstalled the game. 30 hours down the drain.
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The concept of locked saves for a PC game was so absurd I hadn't fathomed the possibility they actually did it. Wow.

Edit: Making matters worse, you can use the console to give yourself all of Fallout 3's achievements, so locked saves don't even protect leaderboard/metagame integrity :lol :lol
 
I'm sort of interested in buying this on PS3 now. I hope they could pull off a decent port.
 
subversus said:
I'm sort of interested in buying this on PS3 now. I hope they could pull off a decent port.
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I changed my pre-order over from PC to PS3. If anyone is going to make UE3 shine on PS3, Epic will.
 
bishoptl said:
Horrible news. GFWL borked my Dawn of War II install on two separate machines - I won't be picking up another GFWL title, period.
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Slightly offtopic but my DoW II Chaos Rising from Steam has been listed as synchronizing now for like 3 weeks and I can get it to stop. I assume this is something to do with GFWL fucking things up.
 
Demigod Mac said:
My experience playing Batman Arkham Asylum on GFWL:

Launch game
Enter serial key
Sign in to GFWL
Agree Agree Agree
Install patch
Exit game

Launch game again
Enter serial key (wat?)
Sign in to GFWL
Agree Agree Agree
Install patch
Exit game

Launch game YET AGAIN
Enter serial key (OK, what the hell)
Sign in to GFWL
Agree Agree Agree
Install patch
Exit game

<head explodes>

Launch game
Enter serial key (fffffffff.....)
Sign in to GFWL
Agree Agree Agree
Play game.
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Red Faction Guerilla was worse than that for me. Fuck GFWL.
 
Chiggs said:
Red Faction Guerilla was worse than that for me. Fuck GFWL.
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Ditto on that. Had to find a work around to download and install the updates myself before launching GFWL.

It used to get stuck at signing in quite often to.

GFWL is a piece of shit. It just gets in the way of my enjoyment of games.
 
I have never had a problem with GFWL..... all that porn/virus/spyware is the problem, SF4 worked with ease and Batman:AA perfection.
 
I hope to never bother with GFWL when I get my PC, but do they force you to pay with funny money? I want to make a point of never dealing with that shit ever again.
 
Stumpokapow said:
The concept of locked saves for a PC game was so absurd I hadn't fathomed the possibility they actually did it. Wow.

Edit: Making matters worse, you can use the console to give yourself all of Fallout 3's achievements, so locked saves don't even protect leaderboard/metagame integrity :lol :lol
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Yeah. This is another thing I've occasionally raged about. Having to bookmark directions on how to transfer a save is pretty ridiculous. GTA IV was just a real PITA. Files all over the place and you could only locate some if you enable hidden folders. Really? Save folders hidden? If you need to spend a good 30 minutes researching how to transfer a save over to a new format, something is seriously borked.
 
ArjanN said:
It's both a store and a service, in the same way you have both Steam and Steamworks titles.
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Speaking of which; what is the difference between those two as well? I thought the later was the name given to indicate a game is also available on Mac and you only buy it once to play on both Mac and/or PC.
 
Snuggler said:
I hope to never bother with GFWL when I get my PC, but do they force you to pay with funny money? I want to make a point of never dealing with that shit ever again.
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No, they got that right. You can pay with Allards if you have them though.

1-D_FTW said:
Yeah. This is another thing I've occasionally raged about. Having to bookmark directions on how to transfer a save is pretty ridiculous. GTA IV was just a real PITA. Files all over the place and you could only locate some if you enable hidden folders. Really? Save folders hidden? If you need to spend a good 30 minutes researching how to transfer a save over to a new format, something is seriously borked.
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Which is especially nonsensical as Windows has a dedicated folder for game saves that you would imagine it would be pretty easy to demand using as part of certification.

RiverBed said:
Speaking of which; what is the difference between those two as well? I thought the later was the name given to indicate a game is also available on Mac and you only buy it once to play on both Mac and/or PC.
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Steam is a digital distribution retailer.

Steamworks is a free developer cross platform (PC and Mac, very likely to be *nix at some point in the future) API that includes support for the following features for developers to use;
- online authentication DRM with encrypted executables to prevent 0 day piracy
- Cloud based storage for savegames and profiles
- Online multiplayer networking and matchmaking
- An achievements system
- Automatic title patching and patch distribution system

Steamplay is what valve brand titles that support purchases to both PC and Mac simultaneously
 
FLEABttn said:
Activation limits made no sense under the "the cd-key is tied to your account and your account can only be used on 1 Live device at a time" construct.

Their in game client didn't properly support my widescreen monitor from 2007-sometime over the summer this year. It would draw the GUI right but "click" areas were near the GUI boxes, so If I wanted to click on a box, I'd have to drag my mouse around it until it lit up.

I'm surprised Stumpokapow didn't mention locked saves. My old computer died back in July, 30 hours into Fallout 3. No biggy, I anticipated the issue because it was acting up and I backed up my save to an external hard drive. Except that it was locked to my old computer and refused to load once I had reinstalled the game. 30 hours down the drain.

I literally threw your game away, Bethesda, because of that bullshit. It is sitting, crushed, in a dump somewhere because of your shit retarded decision to use GFWL.
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The clicks were a problem in 4:3/5:4 as well, making it seem even less competent!
 
Arucardo said:
This game isn't developed by Epic :I
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I'm sure Epic artists and programmers are helping them.

Damn, what a dissapoinment. That looked so good.
 
GFWL doesn't bother me as much as most people, so yeah you gotta do a few things before playing every time, so? takes like 30 seconds. if you have ADHD and cant stand still for 10 seconds i could see how it would be annoying
 
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