LunaticHigh
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Hasn't the PS3 had dedicated servers for most of it's online games all this gen? That won't change with the PS4 I hope.
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Bungie: Destiny's graphics are different from platform to platform
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Hasn't the PS3 had dedicated servers for most of it's online games all this gen? That won't change with the PS4 I hope.
entremet
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I think it will do less. Probably around 2 million tops.
Dead Prince
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lol DF will have to do ps3, 360,
, ps4, and xbone lol.
pc
Diablo Rosso
Member
But Microsoft said that everyone has an Internet connection...
They really did, pretty much.
Springtime next year. Both this and Titanfall have wisely chosen to avoid CoD and BF4.
Don't see why not. Have you seen Splinter Cell Blacklist coming to the 360? Lighting won't be as much a problem for the next-gen systems.
XtremeXpider
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I know that any game can have dedicated servers, what I mean is all Xbox One games will have dedicated servers, it is a advantage, like it or not.
plagiarize
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extracting current gen versions will be about equivalent and next gen versions will be about equivalent out of that quote is just as much as a reach as extrapolating that they're saying the PS4 version will be better then the Xbone out of it.
All the platforms will show differences. They just aren't ready to announce any specific features of any platform. Not of next gen platforms vs current gen. Not of next gen versions vs each other. Any version compared to any version.
All the platforms will show differences. They just aren't ready to announce any specific features of any platform. Not of next gen platforms vs current gen. Not of next gen versions vs each other. Any version compared to any version.
Vestal
Junior Member
HOW DARE YOU BRING REASON TO THIS DEBATE?!?!?!
plagiarize
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it's only an advantage if it turns out not to be the case on PS4, which we have not heard confirmation of to my knowledge.
I don't expect to see all the PS4 titles run on dedicated servers, but I do expect to see a higher percentage of PS4 titles doing so than PS3 titles did.
Of course, it has nothing to do with graphics.
Manmademan
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possibly. dedicated servers for ps3 games really didn't make any difference in terms of game performance vs. 360 titles that we're p2p, and dedicated servers run the risk of being turned off when the game is no longer profitable.
this was a big issue for Demons souls, but Sony has extended the life of that one indeterminately. it WAS scheduled to be turned off years ago, eliminating multiplayer.
XtremeXpider
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The dedicated servers on PS4 run by third party publishers?
The fact that it was presented on a PS4 at E3 and it seems like they always say "Destiny , which will be best experienced on PS4...." leads me to also believe that the obvious is true. The more powerful machine with gobs more ram capacity will run massive worlds better.
Bodes poorly for the bone since everything looks open world now
EDIT: I had no idea this was also going to be on PS360...that could explain it.
Bodes poorly for the bone since everything looks open world now
EDIT: I had no idea this was also going to be on PS360...that could explain it.
MikeE21286
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plagiarize
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why isn't it also obvious that the PS4 and Xbone versions will show graphical differences? name me a AAA multiplatform game on 360 and PS3 that doesn't.
Saying all the platforms are going to be different doesn't leave anything to the imagination. You appear to have imagined that it means that two of the platforms are the same as each other, but different to two of the remaining platforms. And those two remaining platforms are the same as each other.
This.
XtremeXpider
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Minimal differences, yes... something like Wii vs PS360 no way.
Manmademan
Member
not sure what you mean here.
plagiarize
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I don't think anyone in this thread was suggesting Wii to PS360 level of differences.
XtremeXpider
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Xbox One -> dedicated server on Azure (Microsoft)
PS4 -> ?
Current gen games, with dedicated servers, are "out" of PSN/XBL, and that dedicated server are from the publisher, not from the network service provider.
Reading some guys it looks like some people think something like that.
maximum360
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With some clouds come rain.
childplease
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Does this mean the pc version wont simply be a port and look miles better than the console versions ?
XtremeXpider
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plagiarize
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still not following you. you are still baselessly speculating about Sony's servers. while seemingly getting annoyed at people baselessly speculating about graphical differences between the PS4 and Xbone.
it is slightly confusing to me.
Because inside their own generations they're going to be minimal differences, not obvious differences.
If a game looks a lot better than it does on the competing console, it doesn't just look bad for the console manufacturer. It also looks bad for the developers of the game.
For that issue alone they're not going to be allowing huge differences between consoles graphic wise.
XtremeXpider
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I'm not assuming or speculating anything, I'm asking if PS4 dedicated servers are Sony servers or third party servers. Nothing more.
plagiarize
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"The graphics are different, obviously, platform to platform, but in a connected world, the game of Destiny is going to be awesome on all of them."
you seem to read this as if it says:
"Their are obvious differences between the graphics, platform to platform, but in a connected world, the game of Destiny is going to be awesome on all of them."
the differences are not being called 'obvious'. Bungie are saying it is obvious that there are differences.
they are also not saying:
"The graphics are different, obviously, generation to generation, but in a connected world, the game of Destiny is going to be awesome on all of them."
the graphics are different platform to platform, means the graphics are different on different platforms. and of course they are, because that is always the case. IE it is obvious that they would be different.
hopefully that makes it easier to parse for you.
Portugeezer
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You mean in sales? If so, I disagree.
I don't think so, but it's not a small amount, the differences should be easily noticeable if a little bit of effort is put in (and that is assuming Xbone gets the luxury of being the primary platform, which depends on how well the Xbone does in the long run).
plagiarize
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yes. no. maybe. both. we don't know.
tactilecleaner
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Xbox one and the cloud. I have a 10 mbits line which is like 1-1.1 mb/s. But something is wicked, because when I download something from Xbox live its like 300 % faster. I noticed this 1 year ago and after a lot of downloading on Xbox live the result is that is 300% faster. Any one else exeperince this? Or is it a good explanation, and yes I am 100% sure I have a 10mbits line.
XtremeXpider
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Thanks.
We can pull this quote apart however we want to. Let's step away from that for a minute.
Imagine the developers for one of the titles throwing this piece of information up while they are partnered with both Sony and Microsoft.
How do you think they would appreciate that? The guys answering these questions are smart enough not to throw that kind of information around.
Big or small differences aside, people are reading too much into this quote. It's still a quote that's been put up by someone that also interpreted what the man in question said.
Hopefully that makes it easier to parse for you... pffft
Wow, I just learned that this was also a PS360 title and that explains that comment, though based on the tag line "best experienced on PS4" still leads me to my old conclusion as well.
And, the fact that this is a cross generational game kinda makes me less excited about it, like there is some concession in size or scope made to the older platform. We'll see
And, the fact that this is a cross generational game kinda makes me less excited about it, like there is some concession in size or scope made to the older platform. We'll see
This. I don't see how anybody can make this into a PS4 vs Xbone thing...
XtremeXpider
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plagiarize
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they only said that they would be different. they didn't say how. the point of the whole answer was basically 'whatever the graphical differences platform to platform, we think people are going to love this game whatever system they get it on'. that's about as diplomatic an answer as you can give.
no developer will come out and say 'oh yes, version X looks terrible compared to version Y'. that's why Digital Foundry et al exists, since so many developers and publishers told us PS3 and 360 versions were identical when they fucking weren't.
staticneuron
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They should have two sections for each console. One that describes performance when plugged into the internet and another for when the console is offline. Just so we can see if there are any performance differences.
Battlefield 3
Assassins Creed 3
One of us needs to get our eyes checked, cuz they look identical to me.
dragonelite
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For destiny?
If so yeah i think activision will be providing the server back end.
So question is how long will they provide the server back end given how destiny is an online only game.
Wat.
XtremeXpider
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I guess Activision is not like EA cutting down servers.
Wishmaster92
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It has begun. Stated by none other than Bungie, dare i say?
dragonelite
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Im not sure have they released any games on consoles which used dedicated servers.
But im pretty sure its in bungie contract that activision provides a server back end for atleast x amount of years. So i dont expect them to have servers running 20 years from now.