plagiarize
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well they aren't.
you should probably book an appointment soon if you operate a motor vehicle.
edit: nb, I am not saying one looks good and one looks bad, I am saying they look different. BECAUSE THEY DO.
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Bungie: Destiny's graphics are different from platform to platform
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well they aren't.
you should probably book an appointment soon if you operate a motor vehicle.
edit: nb, I am not saying one looks good and one looks bad, I am saying they look different. BECAUSE THEY DO.
Pause at 0.39, he has different clothes.
well they aren't.
you should probably book an appointment soon if you operate a motor vehicle.
edit: nb, I am not saying one looks good and one looks bad, I am saying they look different. BECAUSE THEY DO.
I show you a video that shows how the 2 platforms have identical IQ, and you come back with 1 frame where the PS3 shadow is at a different angle?
....ok
Chittagong
Gold Member
In the case of Titan Fall I can understand this sentiment, but knowing Activision and seeing the game I can not imagine it underperforming at all. It's Halo x Borderlands x WoW seemingly well executed in an inspired, memorable setting. Only dwnfalk might be Dat Bungie 30fps
Yeh this guy loves to do his cherry picking when it comes to arguments.
plagiarize
Banned
the shadows are slightly different across the whole game.
Battlefield 3 uses different anti aliasing techniques on PS3 and 360. you know, across the whole game.
they are different.
I'm not trying to do anything other than get across a truth. The Xbox One and PS4 versions will have visual differences. This is a completely unsurprising claim. We'll find out how different they are, and whether one looks better than the other in time. For now it is completely safe to say it is obvious that the two versions will showcase graphical differences. It is a much more unlikely that the two games will look identical. That almost never happens.
Dr. Kitty Muffins
Member
I hope they drop the PS3 and Xbox 360 versions and just focus on making the game as next gen as possible. If you have MMO elements, then obviously you expect your game to be played for a very long time. It makes more sense to make sure this game doesn't end up as a cross gen title and ends up as a truly next gen experience that will stand up after 4-5 years of play.
Militant17
Member
Well actually the fact that he specifically says it will look different "from platform to platform" implies that it will indeed vary across all platforms does it not? So wether PS3/4 or Xbox 360/1 each platform will look different. Which is once again why he specifically said platform to platform and not this gen to next gen.
SatelliteOfLove
Member
And graphics-spawned graveyard threads here are always the most hilarious/sad.
plagiarize
Banned
just the mere suggestion a PS4 and Xbone game aren't going to identical is causing all this tension. imagine what cold hard facts establishing that one looks even slightly better than the other is going to cause?
It can mean any number of things. Right now it's all speculation.
One thing I can be sure of, is that developers aren't going to straight up say one console is capable of more than the other. Don't think Sony and Microsoft would appreciate that kind of thing.
The irony that you only compared Destiny to games that are only coming to next gen only. No duh Destiny isn't going to match those games. Maybe destiny 2 would look like a true next gen game once it drop ps360 development.
TheUnsunghero26
Member
My guess is that the PS4 and Xbox One version will be fairly identical, maybe a slight edge to PS4, the architecture is so similar it shouldn't be a big deal. Bungie has a lot of experience with the 360 and none with PS3 so it should be interesting to see how those turn out.
Ingueferroque
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If I could choose I would have wanted Destiny to be exclusive to next-gen, but it still looks like a great title.
I hope one day Bungie will work on a Marathon sequel.
I hope one day Bungie will work on a Marathon sequel.
one could argue anything in this thread...but if something is billed as "best experienced on Y" its a clear assumption (just an assumption) that is indeed going to be best on Y.
But who knows.
Even so, they seem to be putting at least some effort into adapting the game to the more powerful platforms beyond a simple IQ boost. I'll be super impressed if the PS360 versions have the sort of extensive shadowing that the E3 demo showed, for instance (and I'm sure I'd be super horrified at the resulting shimmering).
well they aren't.
you should probably book an appointment soon if you operate a motor vehicle.
edit: nb, I am not saying one looks good and one looks bad, I am saying they look different. BECAUSE THEY DO.
WTF happened to his face in AC3?! He turned into a lanky ape.
plagiarize
Banned
they screwed with all the faces in all the games. no one knows why.
-Pyromaniac-
Member
It would take some kind of developer to make a console version not look better on PS4.
krypt0nian
Banned
So after launch, are we going to see a sudden turnaround by xbone fans to the "graphics don't matter" team? Trying to remember the names but there were a few here around the "chip underclock" days.
Bethesda could probably pull it off lol.
Nope. Go back and actually watch the video. The shadows are exactly the same. The only difference is the brightness/contrast.
Literally identical. If you disagree you're just flat out wrong.
Haha! My first thought. Dat cloud gonna make it rain (in-game, I mean, with weather effects all generated by said cloud).
EDIT: Obviously it won't so don't take my joke as me really thinking the cloud will do jack for Destiny.
Baldwin_the_First
Member
Instead of "platform to platform", wouldn't they have used "generation to generation" if they only meant 360/PS3 compared to X1/PS4?
Graphics are at the level now where they pretty much look good in all curent gen games, next gen games will be a level up and its getting to the point where these kind of DF comparisons will be pointless imo as even the worst looking games next gen will probably look great overall.
Dedicated servers are not the wizard jizz some are hoping for, they are relatively straight forward.
You make it sound like there is going to be a huge difference, there isn't. Games on the whole are going to look so good next gen that it will be getting a little pointless to compare them, the PS4 will probvably have the edge in a lot of games but if next gen games look great anyway then what difference does it make apart from a reason for fanboys to wank over which version looks a bit better.
plagiarize
Banned
you are using the word 'exactly' wrong.
shadows are slightly different in many many many places in that video. both look good, but the shadows are different. pause any moment of Desmond or the guy before him climbing out of the van.
basically any moment where you can see shadows on the characters, they will be slightly different.
As it was previous gen, the only differences we will see will be in 1st party games. Multiplatform games won't provide any fuel for graphics arguments as they'll look nearly indistinguishable except for details like color saturation and brightness.
You're making yourself look silly. You challenged someone to show you an identical AAA multiplatform game on the PS3/360, and I gave you two examples. You refuse to accept it. That's your deal.
All of that to prove your point wrong - Destiny will more than likely not have significant differences between PS4/Xbone. If your argument was that 1st party PS4 looks better than 1st party Xbone, I'd completely agree with you. But your "shadows are slightly different" argument is false. Accept this.
SRTtoZ
Member
I thought it was because the Desmonds face model contract expired.
plagiarize
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and you're telling ME to get my eyes tested.
The alleged scale of Destiny would seem to crush those other games though. Graphical prowess for size of playable area?
Destiny is cross-gen, Infamous, Forza and Ryse are not.
Thug Waffle
Member
It's not your fault the dude doesn't understand what the word 'identical' means. If he showed you a game that is meant to be identical, but features notable visual differences without, that's not making anybody look silly but himself. I'd just stop responding to him.
eso76
Member
Saw this earlier.
Either these guys are slow and can't interpret their own questions or they are in need for hits.
It isnt ???
That was their question:
Ps4/Xbox one.
It's the question itself that puts them on the same level with that /.
They didn't ask "...for ps4 compared to Xbox one, or vice versa", they said 'ps4/Xbox one', thus clearly meaning a generic 'next gen consoles', it's absolutely clear Bungie president is talking about the difference between current gen and the next ("same core experience, graphics are obviously different").
Either these guys are slow and can't interpret their own questions or they are in need for hits.
It isnt ???
That was their question:
Ps4/Xbox one.
It's the question itself that puts them on the same level with that /.
They didn't ask "...for ps4 compared to Xbox one, or vice versa", they said 'ps4/Xbox one', thus clearly meaning a generic 'next gen consoles', it's absolutely clear Bungie president is talking about the difference between current gen and the next ("same core experience, graphics are obviously different").
I'll take graphical prowess over size of playable area if that playable area is full of nothing.
On topic - All multi-platform games between PS4 and XB1 will have differences, they will never be exactly identical. Framerate difference here, texture resolution difference there.
So, console wars over an obvious statement.
Whats next?
Bungie - "The sky in Destiny will be blue". "
NeoGAF - "The sky in the Xbone version will be bluer". "The PS4 version will have a more realistic blue sky. Dat GDDR".
True. Hopefully the PC port comes around fast so we can bruteforce some pristine IQ/framerate out of it.
Oh great, another one....
Look at this image: (taken from the scene plagiarize recommended for "obvious differences in shadows")
Other than brightness/contrast which is a setting and has absolutely no bearing on the performance of the machine or the graphics engine, these two images are absolutely identical. When I get home from work would you like me to compensate the brightness on either side so that they match? Would that make it easier for you to see?
BigTnaples
Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
Awesome. Glad to hear they are not gimping the PS4 version for the Xbox One version.
les papillons sexuels
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It's not a next gen game engine. It's a game built for the ps3 and 360, how can you expect bungie to produce visuals at the same level as games which are being designed exclusively for the PS4 or XBO?
If there are some noticeable differences between the console versions, it's going to be weird to see places like DF say: "For the best place to experience Bungie's visuals, buy it on PS4".
I'm really curious to see which multiplatform games take advantage of the differences in power and which make it the same game except for maybe performance in certain areas. Does EA make a console-neutral game graphically due to their "unprecedented partnership" with MS or do they try and push what they can do?
I'm really curious to see which multiplatform games take advantage of the differences in power and which make it the same game except for maybe performance in certain areas. Does EA make a console-neutral game graphically due to their "unprecedented partnership" with MS or do they try and push what they can do?
Spoiler: PC wins.
Atraveller
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qa_engineer
Member
Epic. That was a lot of percentages being thrown out. I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHATS GOING ON.