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Call of Duty: Modern Warfare: [R E F L E X] (Wii) Screens
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Truth be told I'm hesitant to post in this thread as the reactions and replies have been so OTT so far.
Do I think the screens are shit? Hell yes.
The previews though all say that the engine is improved over WaW and that the texture resolution is higher and it has better effects though so I want to see it in motion and read some reviews. I distinctly remember the first WaW wii shots being shitty too and the end game looked better, assuming you weren't playing it on an HDTV with bad scaling.
It was doing some good things, very large streaming environments with no loading, tons of on screen characters and a lot of action. Granted there were some ugly textures here and there, lots of slowdown in places but generally I liked the way it looked and played apart from the laggy ADS aiming.
Don't forget that the Wii version of that game has like an average rating of 84%. What encourages me about this MW port (despite its shitty screens) is the news that they are improving the controls to match the Conduit (boring shooter, great controls). IR controls are important to me and I generally only play FPS with this control input other than Halo.
If, as the previews say, the engine is improved over WaW, I might consider picking it up.
I really think it looked pretty good in motion and was a decent production. Check out this video:
http://uk.wii.ign.com/dor/objects/14222041/call-of-duty-5/videos/CODWAW-3.html
And no I'm not comparing it to 360/PS3 versions.
Do I think the screens are shit? Hell yes.
The previews though all say that the engine is improved over WaW and that the texture resolution is higher and it has better effects though so I want to see it in motion and read some reviews. I distinctly remember the first WaW wii shots being shitty too and the end game looked better, assuming you weren't playing it on an HDTV with bad scaling.
It was doing some good things, very large streaming environments with no loading, tons of on screen characters and a lot of action. Granted there were some ugly textures here and there, lots of slowdown in places but generally I liked the way it looked and played apart from the laggy ADS aiming.
Don't forget that the Wii version of that game has like an average rating of 84%. What encourages me about this MW port (despite its shitty screens) is the news that they are improving the controls to match the Conduit (boring shooter, great controls). IR controls are important to me and I generally only play FPS with this control input other than Halo.
If, as the previews say, the engine is improved over WaW, I might consider picking it up.
I really think it looked pretty good in motion and was a decent production. Check out this video:
http://uk.wii.ign.com/dor/objects/14222041/call-of-duty-5/videos/CODWAW-3.html
And no I'm not comparing it to 360/PS3 versions.
dragonfart28
Banned
Jangaroo said:
I can't believe I actually bothered doing this, but here you go. With waggle included. Stick figures do not make appropriate bullet fodder.
I would definitely play a game that looks like this!! Eduardo artstyle brought to 3D - pencil shading and static fuzz!!!
http://kotaku.com/5342715/modern-warfare-wii-gets-coop-with-a-catch
Wow they're really pulling out all the stops for this one.
It looks like they just ported the entire game + engine to the Wii, then removed all of the shaders and PPEs while gimping the textures and models until they could meet performance requirements. It may look like shit, but it should at least play like CoD 4 did.
This is a cash grab by the publisher (and possibly the developer too). If they were to go and put some effort into tailoring an engine for the Wii and then rebuilding the game content FOR that engine they might be able to get something that looks good out of it.
Then again, that would cost time and money... neither of which the devs/publishers seem to be willing to spend on this game.
This is a cash grab by the publisher (and possibly the developer too). If they were to go and put some effort into tailoring an engine for the Wii and then rebuilding the game content FOR that engine they might be able to get something that looks good out of it.
Then again, that would cost time and money... neither of which the devs/publishers seem to be willing to spend on this game.
MattyGrovesOrMe
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This I would buy. Special Edition. First Day.mike0513 said:
Lone_Prodigy
Member
baultista said:
I agree: it looks like the lowest settings on the PC version. AA? Nope. Shadows? Low.
brain_stew
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Lone_Prodigy said:
Its no where near the lowest settings on PC, not even close. Neither was World at War.
eh, no. the only thing missing from these screens that's in the lowest PC settings is the shaders, because the shaders HAVE to be on, even on the lowest settings, so of course it looks better on low on the PC, as shaders are THE defining factor of this generation. it's what UE3 is based on. i would hope they spend the next 12 months reprogramming the shaders for the TEV and figuring out how to light it better, if they haven't done so this time.brain_stew said:
i do hope they manage to put in the lighting by the end though...
sorry, for the double post, but i thought i would post the IGN feature about the lack of Wii Speak support for the lulz
http://wii.ign.com/articles/101/1016927p1.html
http://wii.ign.com/articles/101/1016927p1.html
:lol
Stoney Mason
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Zenith said:
I read that link earlier and the whole thing sounded a bit better than I thought it would. I'm still curious to see it in motion despite the pretty bad earlier screens. If it runs as well as WaW did, that may not be the highest bar but at least it's consistent with their prior output.
Stoney Mason
Banned
doomed1 said:
Well mainly I was impressed that although minor there actually do seem to be some improvements over WaW on Wii. My initial sort of disgust was based on those early screens sort of giving the impression that it would be potentially worse. I'll sort of hold off judging any more until I see some video.
indeed, that cammo shot is really unfortunate. honestly though, for my desire, they have the model lighting pretty down from WaW, all they have to do is to prebake the most of the unnatural lighting and put in a single for natural lighting conditions like with the thunder and lighting stuff, which they could largely preset as is, considering how scripted the game ends up being. good lighting could really improve the game in many people's eyes, and we know it's more than possible too, so it's really a matter of taking the time to program it.Stoney Mason said:
Stoney Mason
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doomed1 said:
Even some of the other improvements were good. For instance host migration. Which was one of my biggest gripes with COD 4 and Waw on the 360 has been fixed apparently which is nice because that was highly annoying on the other console versions. A rather small thing that actually ends up being a big thing.
yeah, it's nice that the lobby won't just suddenly close on me after playing the last two minutes of a game like it does in WaW. though i kind of wish there was Wii speak support, as i don't really mind 8 players. either way, it's looking to be fun. i look forward to playing with modern weaponry, since to me it's far more interesting...Stoney Mason said:
markatisu said:
I take that as they want to make sure the audience is still there before committing to MW2. If MW1 sells at least as well as WaW, I think MW2 is a shoe-in for Wii.
Basically, they probably view the Wii audience as uncertain, so they want to make sure that each step is secure before committing to the next one. Also, Modern Warfare is going to basically be its own series, after all, so from that perspective, the sales of CoD3 and WaW aren't as telling.
What I'm most pumped about is that they're wholesale copying The Conduit's controls. Every FPS on Wii needs to do this.
donny2112 said:I take that as they want to make sure the audience is still there before committing to MW2. If MW1 sells at least as well as WaW, I think MW2 is a shoe-in for Wii.
Basically, they probably view the Wii audience as uncertain, so they want to make sure that each step is secure before committing to the next one. Also, Modern Warfare is going to basically be its own series, after all, so from that perspective, the sales of CoD3 and WaW aren't as telling.
What I'm most pumped about is that they're wholesale copying The Conduit's controls. Every FPS on Wii needs to do this.
I don't see how it makes any sense to base a Wii version of MW2 on a 2-year-old port of MW that is not going to get any advertising/attention/buzz thanks to the enormous media blitz MW2 will see. It's a stupid thing to do on top of ignoring the more recent and far more relevant sales of WaW Wii.
To top it off it's just a straight port with no exclusive new content that old ports usually get.
polyh3dron
Banned
We need Resident Evil 5 on the Wii, don't tell me it can't be done it will look exactly the same but in SD
acura said:
Seriously? No I mean really, what? You sound like a dude that came into my work the other day complaining that there weren't any good DS games and that the system had "gone to the children" I desperately hope this was a joke post, for your sake I really do.
Back on topic, this game looks like sphincter. A very obese, 35 year old depressed anal sphincter.
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CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
What do people expect when all they do is down-port the 360/PS3/PC game?
2 years is plenty of time to make this game properly, but Activision just can't be arsed to put in the effort.
2 years is plenty of time to make this game properly, but Activision just can't be arsed to put in the effort.
Dabookerman
Member
Amir0x said:
His comment comes across as really sarcastic.
Asmodai said:
I read that CoD3 was done by Treyarch in less than a year, so Treyarch can put a lot of effort into a game in a short time. For your general point, though, no, I'm not surprised that most publishers don't go all out for their Wii games. You just asked for examples, and those were two that came to mind from bigger third-party publishers.
Edit:
Vicarious Visions specifically put a lot into their DS titles, too. They created their own technically impressive 3-D engine for the licensed Over the Hedge DS, and came up with Guitar Hero DS on their own volition.
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