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Can men and women be "just friends"?

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Yes, men and women can just be friends.

But...the proper question is can "attractive men" and "attractive women" just be friends? That's much more interesting.

I have plenty of ugly female friends that I'd never even think of touching. With the cute ones, I can certainly just be friends with them too (and am with many), but if the opportunity presented itself and she was requesting the dick, I'd definitely have to think long and hard about my next move. I've declined some pretty hot friends before for the sake of the relationship...but it's definitely a case-by-case thing.

Pun intended?
 
I keep returning back to this thread because just the thought of some responses blows me away. Here's a (super well-edited) picture of me sitting with 5 attractive women.

http://i.imgur.com/mSHMb.jpg

Again, I find every single one of them attractive. Loe and behold, they are all my friends. Impossible, right? I should also note that I'd never, EVER have sex with any of them. "BUT THEY'RE ATTRACTIVE AND THEREFORE YOU'RE NOT REALLY FRIENDS IF THE OPPORTUNITY WAS GIVEN!", right? Again, you're wrong.
Translation: "I tried to date all of them but they put me in the friend zone"
 
Translation: "I tried to date all of them but they put me in the friend zone"
You're sad.

edit: but I don't blame you. It's the way of how men and women think now a days :(.
 
I'd love to say yes, and I certainly hope it's actually possible, but my experience so far has been a resounding no.

Of the five closest female friends I've had since my teenage years (so 10 to today, I'm 19),
3 of them have had feelings for me at some point and explicitly told me so
I've had (still do actually) feelings for the fourth
And the last one has been in a relationship for as long as I've known her and I was never that close to her to begin with, so she sort of doesn't count.

So if it's possible, it's extremely rare as far as I'm concerned. But then again it depends on where you draw the line between friend and acquaintance.
 
I can't choose which of these are my favorite responses. I read the first quote and wondered if some of the guys in this thread have ever talked to a woman before, but then the second two quotes answered that question.
Wow. I can't have this kind of opinion without the typical nerd/virgin conclusion? I will not even argue anything man, just read this: the difference between you and me is that I use my brain instead of thinking with my dick when the subject is women.
 
I'm glad I'm different though. I think differently and I act differently.
@Yoshichan: For all we know, either the girls or you are ugly as sin.
Wait, what the fuck does that have to do with anything? If an ugly guy finds an ugly woman attractive, does that change their situation in anyway?
 
Yes, men and women can just be friends.

But...the proper question is can "attractive men" and "attractive women" just be friends? That's much more interesting.

I have plenty of ugly female friends that I'd never even think of touching. With the cute ones, I can certainly just be friends with them too (and am with many), but if the opportunity presented itself and she was thirsty and requesting da dick, I'd definitely have to think long and hard about my next move. I've declined some pretty hot friends before for the sake of the relationship...but I also accepted others. It's definitely a case-by-case thing.
Exactly
 
That's your personal choice. Just because it happened to you, doesn't mean it won't work out for others.

It was my personal choice to start dating, yes, but once you get into a romantic relationship you can't keep hanging out with other girls. If you do, then there's something wrong.
 
lol it amuses me how many people actually believe this.
Yes, I'm in denial right? If a good looking woman came to you at a party and stroke your dick and then asked for sex, I take it you'd be in it within seconds, right? I wouldn't.

Wow, we must definitely think alike and everything else is just denial!
 
It was my personal choice to start dating, yes, but once you get into a romantic relationship you can't keep hanging out with other girls. If you do, then there's something wrong.

Weird double standard, because in my relationship with a guy I was able to hang out with other men.
 
Yes, men and women can just be friends.

But...the proper question is can "attractive men" and "attractive women" just be friends? That's much more interesting.

I have plenty of ugly female friends that I'd never even think of touching. With the cute ones, I can certainly just be friends with them too (and am with many), but if the opportunity presented itself and she was thirsty and requesting da dick, I'd definitely have to think long and hard about my next move. I've declined some pretty hot friends before for the sake of the relationship...but I also accepted others. It's definitely a case-by-case thing.

The thing is, even if you don't feel anything for the ugly ones. They probably feel something for you. This shit isn't if I don't feel anything for them then we're just friends. Yes you're just friends to you, but the other person will have the feelings you don't. So to them you're not just friends.

Your personal feelings are just one part of the relationship, you have to take into account the other person. Who as I've stated obviously feels something for you if you don't feel something for them.

The only possible exception to this is family, and even then there are some people who practice incest so that shit is iffy.
 
he 100% wants to wait until he's married for sex

it's one of those things
The point I'm trying to make is that it's about making sure your best friend will remain being your best friend.

edit: I'm so confused without avatars... I wasn't even aware that I was speaking to Amir0x, even when I quoted him.
 
I drink with a mix of female and male friends. we go out as a group and return as a group.

Some of my other male friends/female friends mix in a sexual manner but always stay friends.

If a chicks hot there is going to be some natural sexual feelings going on..
 
You're sad.

I keep returning back to this thread because just the thought of some responses blows me away. Here's a (super well-edited) picture of me sitting with 5 attractive women.

http://i.imgur.com/mSHMb.jpg

Again, I find every single one of them attractive. Loe and behold, they are all my friends. Impossible, right? I should also note that I'd never, EVER have sex with any of them. "BUT THEY'RE ATTRACTIVE AND THEREFORE YOU'RE NOT REALLY FRIENDS IF THE OPPORTUNITY WAS GIVEN!", right? Again, you're wrong.

If you don't mind me asking, what do you get out of those friendships with those five women? I have a policy of not being friends with women unless they're gonna set me up with their hot friends (women make the best wingmen). Here you you have five attractive women who are all mutual friends with you and yet none of them have slept with you. I don't see what you get out of this deal.
 
The point I'm trying to make is that it's about making sure your best friend will remain being your best friend.

edit: I'm so confused without avatars... I wasn't even aware that I was speaking to Amir0x, even when I quoted him.

I hate to like go cliche but Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind has it right. Maybe it WILL end badly. Just enjoy the moment and appreciate the time you spent together. You had fun, right? You enjoyed those moments? When you die, will you look back on it with anything other than a smile?

These small moments are worth the potential downsides. Don't live your life in constant anxiety of what might happen.
 
You're somewhat right about that but I also do feel that I'm not in a hurry and I definitely do not feel like risking my friendship that I have with her. My best friend is my best friend, she'll probably be my friend for a long time. My future wife however, is someone I (hopefully) do not know about and that we will meet in the future.

By now, it's obvious that I don't want sex before marriage. That's 100% right.
I've failed with that though

I do not want to have sex with her, EVERY REASON COUNTS, that was one of them.
Fair enough.

But you see, the reason why I'm questioning you is because you're boasting about how (in my own words) you've evolved beyond the filthy, primal instinct of sex. It comes across as phony to me.
 
If you don't mind me asking, what do you get out of those friendships with those five women? I have a policy of not being friends with women unless they're gonna set me up with their hot friends (women make the best wingmen). Here you you have five attractive women who are all mutual friends with you and yet none of them have slept with you. I don't see what you get out of this deal.
I get the best time of my life. Traveling around the country with some of them, a couple of times a week we hang out playing games and watching movies, spend time with my best friend and her family during Christmas is one of the best periods every year.

It's those things that are important and I can never get enough of that. A relationship (let's be serious here, sex will eventually lead to this), however?
 
Weird double standard, because in my relationship with a guy I was able to hang out with other men.
Alone? In the same way you would if you weren't dating? There's no double standard. Being in a committed relationship changes things. That's the standard. Where's the double?
 
Yes, I'm in denial right? If a good looking woman came to you at a party and stroke your dick and then asked for sex, I take it you'd be in it within seconds, right? I wouldn't.

Wow, we must definitely think alike and everything else is just denial!
Probably not but that's because forward women are a turnoff for me. If I was into aggressive women you'd best believe I'd hit it.

The reason people are calling bullshit on you is because we've all been there. We've all tried to tell ourselves that the gorgeous females we knew were "Just friends" despite the fact that, if the opportunity presented itself, we'd wax that ass like Ralph Macchio. It's just that we were too scared to take a chance or we did and we got shot down.
 
I get the best time of my life. Traveling around the country with some of them, a couple of times a week we hang out playing games and watching movies, spend time with my best friend and her family during Christmas is one of the best periods every year.

It's those things that are important and I can never get enough of that. A relationship (let's be serious here, sex will eventually lead to this), however?

Fair enough. If these are lifelong friends types of deals where you do unique things with them, it's something I can understand. I have guy friends like that but only guy friends. I'm going to New York with one of them in the summer so we can train with Marcelo Garcia.

As far as having girl friends around just for watching movies and playing video games, I can do that with dudes already.
 
Probably not but that's because forward women are a turnoff for me. If I was into aggressive women you'd best believe I'd hit it.

The reason people are calling bullshit on you is because we've all been there. We've all tried to tell ourselves that the gorgeous females we knew were "Just friends" despite the fact that, if the opportunity presented itself, we'd wax that ass like Ralph Macchio. It's just that we were too scared to take a chance or we did and we got shot down.

I take chances with my female friends pretty often. The thing that I make clear though is that if you shoot me down and still expect me to be your friend along with all the perks with having a male friend (namely the emotional support), the only way it works is if you offer up one of your friends on the sacrificial alter to my dick. Otherwise, I'm gone.
 
Furthermore, the idea that female friends of gay men actually wish they were heterosexual (and therefore not actual friends apparently?) brought up earlier bugs me. If the female friends of gay men are just interested in "what if" relationships, wouldn't gay men wish that their straight male friends were gay? And they can't have be friends with other homosexual men because of the same issues that plague this apparent topic, so gay men can only have lesbian friends (and vice versa)? Apparently?

My head hurts.
 
Fair enough. If these are lifelong friends types of deals where you do unique things with them, it's something I can understand. I have guy friends like that but only guy friends. I'm going to New York with one of them in the summer so we can train with Marcelo Garcia.

As far as having girl friends around just for watching movies and playing video games, I can do that with dudes already.

My female friends tend to be funnier than my male friends, so I enjoy having them around to watch movies or play videogames. You'd be surprised the perspective they can bring to the table.

^^^: All gay men go through a process of falling for their straight friends. It still happens to me from time to time. We play it off as me having a crush and nothing more comes of it.
 
The reason people are calling bullshit on you is because we've all been there. We've all tried to tell ourselves that the gorgeous females we knew were "Just friends" despite the fact that, if the opportunity presented itself, we'd wax that ass like Ralph Macchio. It's just that we were too scared to take a chance or we did and we got shot down.
I understand this, but some of you people really need to think for a second before trying to explain how other people really feel. Your previous post was one of those (but I'm starting to think that you were joking):
Translation: "I tried to date all of them but they put me in the friend zone"
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Fair enough. If these are lifelong friends types of deals where you do unique things with them, it's something I can understand. I have guy friends like that but only guy friends. I'm going to New York with one of them in the summer so we can train with Marcelo Garcia.

As far as having girl friends around just for watching movies and playing video games, I can do that with dudes already.
This is exactly what it is. My male friends I have don't play games (except for Dudebro-games) with me or watch movies (that's "gay"), we only hang out when we're gonna go out and drink. My female friends however, they're different because we do all kinds of things. I've gotten used to it and I like how it is.
 
Probably not but that's because forward women are a turnoff for me. If I was into aggressive women you'd best believe I'd hit it.

The reason people are calling bullshit on you is because we've all been there. We've all tried to tell ourselves that the gorgeous females we knew were "Just friends" despite the fact that, if the opportunity presented itself, we'd wax that ass like Ralph Macchio. It's just that we were too scared to take a chance or we did and we got shot down.

OR.... you know that you WOULD in some theoretically impossible situation, but you actually choose not to because you value the friendship.
 
I would love to watch movies and play non-dudebro games with you yoshi ~<3
Street Fighter counts as dudebro in my world, you know!

(And I've already got Corky when I want to play non-dudebro games! He lives closeby anyway! :D)
 
I keep returning back to this thread because just the thought of some responses blows me away. Here's a (super well-edited) picture of me sitting with 5 attractive women.

http://i.imgur.com/mSHMb.jpg

Again, I find every single one of them attractive. Loe and behold, they are all my friends. Impossible, right? I should also note that I'd never, EVER have sex with any of them. "BUT THEY'RE ATTRACTIVE AND THEREFORE YOU'RE NOT REALLY FRIENDS IF THE OPPORTUNITY WAS GIVEN!", right? Again, you're wrong.

Yoshichan you are a cool dude. Now please un-edit that pic.
 
Yoshichan you are a cool dude. Now please un-edit that pic.
Two of them actually lurks on GAF sometimes, so I would rather not.
 
I understand this, but some of you people really need to think for a second before trying to explain how other people really feel. Your previous post was one of those (but I'm starting to think that you were joking):
I was halfway joking. I understand what you're saying but, in the end, people aren't all that different from one another. We aren't unique snowflakes blah blah blah you've heard this before. The excuses you used were the same ones I've heard from countless dudes who were just too terrified to make a move.
 
I was halfway joking. I understand what you're saying but, in the end, people aren't all that different from one another. We aren't unique snowflakes blah blah blah you've heard this before. The excuses you used were the same ones I've heard from countless dudes who were just too terrified to make a move.

Yet he could be using them because he has no reason to make a move.
 
I was halfway joking. I understand what you're saying but, in the end, people aren't all that different from one another. We aren't unique snowflakes blah blah blah you've heard this before. The excuses you used were the same ones I've heard from countless dudes who were just too terrified to make a move.
Yep, and I can't prove anything - but do I really care? I'll just let it go at this: I'm far from terrified of making a move (and once again, I DO NOT WANT to make a move). I've been in relationships and I was always the one who made the first move. But again, I have no proof, so what does it matter? Having the whole "I don't believe anyone, why should I trust you"-attitude is really boring and I can't stand discussing things with those people.
 
Street Fighter counts as dudebro in my world, you know!

(And I've already got Corky when I want to play non-dudebro games! He lives closeby anyway! :D)

we could spoon and play flower together.

corky could join too.
 
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