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TheKingsCrown said:
Sure and Mikami will return to Capcom...
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Sure and Mikami will return to Capcom...
Christopher
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TheKingsCrown said:
The gamecube was one of the most powerful consoles last gen.
I'm not understanding something...in every sales threads Wii lovers love to throw up Casual Gamers, and this expanded Wii audience, and how hardcore games are "not for the console." Then god forbid someone doesn't make a game that makes use of the Wii controls in mind....another bitch thread. Yet when something casual is announced, and makes use of the controls you guys go up in arms.
Resident Evil: UC sold to the *gasp* casual gamers, and you know what? They'll probably buy this one too. So when you guys parade around with these casual sales numbers, and get casual games why moan?
morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
Christopher said:
I think he meant that more in the "it was third place in a three-way console race, yet got better support than the current winner" way.
EmCeeGramr
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Problem with that analogy is that the 360 already has lots of action games.Kintaro said:
Maybe because Capcom could port their titles to as many as 3 additional equivilant platforms at that time. The 1.5M worldwide sales for RE4Wii was great for a $30 title with no competition that had already been released on previous consoles. 1.5M worldwide for a new RE4-level game (meaning tens of millions in development) would be a failure.morningbus said:
But there are threads full of List Warz about how the Wii already has lots of games for the non-grandmas, so what's the problem?
Haunted
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Yeah, I've seen the scan. I extrapolated from the games missing from UC1 and Dahlgren's quotes.morningbus said:
morningbus said:
Very true.EmCeeGramr said:
Spin-off = smaller team, not A-string, lower budget (even proportionally) - it's understandable if people are unhappy with the very concept of spin-offs, even though some of them have turned out to be good games.
morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
Kintaro said:
Yet this still doesn't stop people saying "I wish they'd port this to the 360, I'm not buying a Wii" in Madworld threads.
For some reason "I refuse to ever buy a Wii" is a perfectly reasonable position to take, yet refusing to buy either a PS3 or 360 is something beyond belief.
For the record, as a current PCii'er, I think both positions are equally as stupid.
Alcibiades
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Seriously, STOP WITH THE SIDE GAMES...Vdragoon said:
What good are side games, even if they fit the platform, without the mainline games?
The fact that gun-games fit the Wii controller doesn't mean every major franchise should get one, and most are probably gonna end up bombing by crowding the market so much so quick.
Side games (aka 3rd rate efforts most of the time) are OK when taken in context with mainline games, but alone they are crap to Wii-only owners. Example: Soul Calibur Legends would have been a bit more accepted (despite not being very good) if we had gotten Soul Calibur 4 as well.
Umbrella Chronicles as an accompaniment to RE4 was fine, but now we are getting another light-gun game with no major title along with it. It's going to run into the same problem Dead Space Extraction will because Dead Space isn't on Wii. Sure, the very tiny percentage of people owning multiple platforms are ok with it, but companies need to take into account the larger hardcore gaming audience on Wii and not limited themselves to fans of certain franchises that own multiple systems.
If these games were released at $20 then I could see some casuals jumping in, but at $50 there is no way these light-gun games are gonna reach critical mass. For example, would World at War have sold almost 500k in the US alone if it had been a $50 rail game? Probably not. I expect this next Chronicles game isn't gonna reach nearly the heights Umbrella Chronicles did partly because there is not major, meaty game on the system it could complement well.
Last-gen direct ports are not making Wii owners happy.
Low budget games developed by 3rd Tier studios are not making Wii owners happy.
Half-assed attempts at milking a franchise is not making Wii owners happy.
Showing a recently started development for shit and giggles (and also for trying to cover a huge fiasco) is not making Wii owners happy.
And for a legitimate attempt at a good game, you managed to move all possible strings to make it miserabily fail so you could have your excuse not to do it anymore.
Guess what? You can go choke on a putrid zombie dick, shove this shit back to your asses and then fuck yourselves, in any order. I'll give my money to the talented people that you kicked in the ass instead.
Low budget games developed by 3rd Tier studios are not making Wii owners happy.
Half-assed attempts at milking a franchise is not making Wii owners happy.
Showing a recently started development for shit and giggles (and also for trying to cover a huge fiasco) is not making Wii owners happy.
And for a legitimate attempt at a good game, you managed to move all possible strings to make it miserabily fail so you could have your excuse not to do it anymore.
Guess what? You can go choke on a putrid zombie dick, shove this shit back to your asses and then fuck yourselves, in any order. I'll give my money to the talented people that you kicked in the ass instead.
Grampa Simpson
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This would be an acceptable outcome.Shockgamer said:
As would a pointer add-on for the 360, and a downloadable patch to add support for it.
beje said:
Huh? The whole reason this thread is so large is due to a last-gen port that made Wii owners too happy (apparently, so now Capcom's gotta tone down that happiness to more reasonable levels).
Personally, I am also greatly anticipating Pikmin, Pikmin 2, and Metroid Prime on the Wii.
donny2112 said:
I was talking about RE0 and RE1 (that you could already play on Wii if you had them for GC) with 0% new content added, Okami to some extent too, but whatever.
The point is, I want somebody at Capcom (because I know they're reading this) to know that, by default, any future game by them will be considered utter shitty cash-ins until they prove me wrong, which won't happen soon as MotoGP is some half-assed PS2 port, Spyborgs always sounded like a really bad idea and MH3 is not likely coming to the west soon.
And I'm absolutely not the only one that thinks like this
Davey Cakes
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It's just a little disappointing that, out of the two RE games that sold well, RE4 Wii Edition is the one NOT to be taken a step further.
Instead, Capcom decided to build on what they did with Umbrella Chronicles. It's not necessarily a bad thing, since the Wii is the premiere platform for rail-shooters, and Umbrella Chronicles is a solid game (and is excellent fanservice), but RE4: Wii Edition is one of the most brilliant ports ever, and that has a lot to do with the controls. People felt that RE4's brilliance on Wii was proof enough that another game should be made with similar gameplay, even if it's not as high-tier as Resident Evil 5.
Of course, UC originated and RE4-like experience, but just happened to make the transition to rail-shooter territory. It worked out in the end, but there are a lot of us who would've liked to see the result of UC had it been shaped more around RE4-like gameplay.
Instead, Capcom decided to build on what they did with Umbrella Chronicles. It's not necessarily a bad thing, since the Wii is the premiere platform for rail-shooters, and Umbrella Chronicles is a solid game (and is excellent fanservice), but RE4: Wii Edition is one of the most brilliant ports ever, and that has a lot to do with the controls. People felt that RE4's brilliance on Wii was proof enough that another game should be made with similar gameplay, even if it's not as high-tier as Resident Evil 5.
Of course, UC originated and RE4-like experience, but just happened to make the transition to rail-shooter territory. It worked out in the end, but there are a lot of us who would've liked to see the result of UC had it been shaped more around RE4-like gameplay.
morningbus said:
I don't care either way. But like you said, both sides do it. For the record, I'll just borrow a Wii and rent MadWorld so like always, I end up the winner. :lol
Perhaps you should direct your hate at Wii owners. RE4 Wii sold well which told Capcom it makes Wii owners happy. Umbrella Chronicles sold well, which tells Capcom that it makes Wii owners happy. to them, they're just making Wii owners happy. Perhaps you should spit that hate to the userbase who bought these titles. Whatever good that will do ya.
BishopLamont
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:lolWarren Ellis said:
The on-rails genre is worth as much as a port now. How desperate.
Eteric Rice
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Zachack said:
So basically, Lost Planet and Dead Rising (360) were failures?
Kintaro said:
I supported Capcom buying UC to show them they have a good userbase to work on. But hey, after all that has happened in 2 years, I won't be the one opening the mouth when they decide to piss their next outsourced cheap-ass excuse for a game. They managed to insult Wii userbase in every conceivable way after all the support shown being Dead Rising the icing on the cake, so it's natural and expected to get the middle finger from most users, more or less like Sony with PS3 after all those unfortunate Kutaragi pieces of fine bullshit and the 5 months delay for no reason other than giggles in Europe.
TheKingsCrown
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This. This. This. This. This. Are you listening Capcom? You can pay newly hired employees less to work on this architecture. Pay less, make more, sell more. Do you get it yet? Okay?Mithos said:
TheKingsCrown
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Kintaro said:
Nope. Right now they are paying the same to make less and sell less.
Kintaro said:
The very least I was expecting would be something like "Hey, they liked UC! Let's assign a new one to an internal team with an interesting budget to make a more fleshed out experience", not "lololol give a couple yens to Cavia janitors so they can work on their lunch break and deliver Wii users more shit". There's a huge difference, you know.
Last year when confronted on their weak Wii efforts a Capcom exec replied something to the extent of "be patient great games take time to make". So this was the great game support they were telling us to be patient for. This and Chop till u drop.
As much as I love UC and we already knew a sequel was coming at some point to act like UC2 is major support is beyond disingenuous on their part. This game will be outsourced just like the first one was and will cost them very minimal development resources. Big game announcement this is not lol. They should have kept the hype to a minimal.
As much as I love UC and we already knew a sequel was coming at some point to act like UC2 is major support is beyond disingenuous on their part. This game will be outsourced just like the first one was and will cost them very minimal development resources. Big game announcement this is not lol. They should have kept the hype to a minimal.
Eteric Rice
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I'm browsing around the Capcom boards right now and the Capcom employees are absolutely silent. :lol
They're lucky they don't flatten all the tires in their parking lot. "Wii RE fans will be very happy" my ass lol.Eteric Rice said:
I'm on my way to buy Madworld a game made by former Capcom devs who know how to support the lead console with games to actually be impressed over.
VegaShinra
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Capcom brought this upon themselves. Had they just said we have a new Wii announcement coming soon, no one would have blown it up to what it did. Fuck you, Capcom.
DeathbyVolcano
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lotsa bitter tears ITT
EmCeeGramr
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The problem is that Capcom saying these games are "tests" to see how much the Wii audience want "mature" games based on high profile franchises.Kintaro said:
If Wii owners don't buy the spinoffs, the publishers assume they don't want the big budget franchise.
If Wii owners do buy the spinoffs, the publishers assume that they want more spinoffs.
Jaded Alyx
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And you can shoot your partner in the buttocks.~Kinggi~ said:
EmCeeGramr
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It actually doesn't mention CV. People are just guessing from that Capcom employee's comments earlier.~Kinggi~ said:
Maybe when the game is officially announced (isn't it supposed to be at the RE5 launch party tomorrow?) we'll get more solid information.
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