crisdecuba
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Good. Any subsequent offense should result in a lifetime ban.
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Capcom: Noel Brown banned from Pro Tour 2016
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TheSpoiler
Member
It will be, according to the OP.
He's trying real hard to defend himself on Twitter too.
What a mess.
Oh I agree. Mr Wizard, The Cannon's. Those are the movers and shakers of of the FGC. That's huge. Just hope it ripples out and all the other majors do the same.
The best way for the FGC to grow from this is to take this shit seriously and deal with it seriously.
It's hard to put this into words because I don't want to be misconstrued. I like what the FGC stands for, but in order for them to grow and really get to that next level they gotta start pushing all the BS out and taking it seriously.
I see this a lot but that wouldn't really be a good look.
This is pretty much the first time they have punished a player like this. As someone said, going from 0-100 on a player could backfire and give off the appearance that Capcom/Evo/etc don't believe in second chances. Yes, Noel has done stupid shit in the past but none of them did anything about it. That was their own fault as well.
So, this is good IMO. Set the stage. Hopefully the FGC starts to clean up its act.
Salty Rice
Member
Lifetime ban is a little bit harsh imo.
Edit: Didnt read subsequent. Yeah if that happens again that could be a option.
BronsonLee
Member
Y'all act like Noel isn't the Bad Decision Machine
Golgo 13
The Man With The Golden Dong
If she pressed charges, it would be felony sexual assault, just in case anyone was wondering. Grabbing someone's ass is not a cute flirting gesture, it's actually a serious crime. Not to mention him being a labeled a convicted sex offender, which is not something you want on your resume.
Gotdatmoney
Member
Without precedent going for the super swift harsh penalty always comes with the possibility of backlash. Year ban and lifetime for any future violations is a win. From there the message is loud and clear to all players that you arent going to get away with this shit and we gave dude a warning so yall can't play dumb later.
I wish dude would shunned from the community as a whole in general. "Go practice in your room by yourself, no one wants to play with you."
Spring-Loaded
Member
Being denied entry to a video game competition is getting off easy for this kind of stuff.
Team Alucard
Banned
Kinda sad that it didn't happen after his domestic violence arrest years back.
Unspeakable Evil
Member
But he's a Top Player.
It's not just an option. According to OP if he gets caught again he's gone for good.
NormalFish
Banned
Yeah, this is my take.
"Look man, you do that shit one more time and you're out. And to make sure you understand we're serious, here's this."
I'd understand it for a second offense but, yeah, permabans are heavily supported here on Gaf and that feels really weird to me.
Obviously the guy got what he deserved (and he's probably going to deserve and get more, judging by the records)
Noel Brown just shot himself in the foot.
I don't know how much the rest of you know about Fighting Game culture (I'm an expert), but honor and shame are huge parts of it. It's not like it is in Dota where you can become successful by being an asshole. If you screw someone over in the FGC, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.
What this means is the FGC, after hearing about this, is not going to want to sponsor Noel Brown, nor will they allow him to attend any tournaments. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Noel has alienated an entire community with this move.
Noel, publicly apologize and stop coaching Justin or you can kiss your fight money goodbye.
I don't know how much the rest of you know about Fighting Game culture (I'm an expert), but honor and shame are huge parts of it. It's not like it is in Dota where you can become successful by being an asshole. If you screw someone over in the FGC, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.
What this means is the FGC, after hearing about this, is not going to want to sponsor Noel Brown, nor will they allow him to attend any tournaments. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Noel has alienated an entire community with this move.
Noel, publicly apologize and stop coaching Justin or you can kiss your fight money goodbye.
Salty Rice
Member
They are busy working on the May Update in June.
Good. He should have been banned permanently from events after this incident alone
WTF? I really want to know the story behind this.
Edit: sounds like a typical trash talk fight.
Galactic Barret
Member
If you behave like a creep, you get treated like one. Good.
Should be thankful criminal charges haven't been filed.
Should be thankful criminal charges haven't been filed.
he's not a great street fighter player so capcom banning him from the pro tour isn't much of a punishment. him being banned from evo is more of a punishment he is going to feel. if other majors banned him then he would get the message. he may be banned from the pro tour but he can still show up to the events and just enter marvel.
PeakPointMatrix
Member
Why should there be anything less than zero tolerance for a person that commits sexual assault at corporate sponsored event? Especially since this isn't the first time he's committed an assault.
NormalFish
Banned
Yeah, I feel you on that. But by the same token, Capcom permabanning him isn't much worse, then. Capcom is just using him as an example for how they'll deal with these issues in future.
If TOs follow their lead, that's good shit.
Team Alucard
Banned
iirc some guy had been heckling him all tournament and he just snapped after losing a set.
Guy clearly has serious anger issues. In 2013 he was arrested for domestic violence and people started calling him Noel "Chris" Brown.
Not really. He still has a lot of dickriders. More importantly he has the support of known people like Jwong, Flash, Marn, etc... They'll all do their best to rugsweep the situation because it's one of their boys.
I'm pleasantly surprised. I felt it was likely EVO would take action (which is probably a bigger deal) but I wasn't sure on Capcom. Good on them.
No singular entity in the FGC (including Capcom) has the power to do that. This sends a good message to smaller TOs though.
No singular entity in the FGC (including Capcom) has the power to do that. This sends a good message to smaller TOs though.
Don't know much about the guy but having a first strike offense ban rather than a permanent ban from the get-go seems preferable since it gives room for the person to change behavior.
But if he's going around punching people and ass grabbing....this guy in particular might be appropriate to ban for life.
But if he's going around punching people and ass grabbing....this guy in particular might be appropriate to ban for life.
Didn't he get banned for threatening to bring a gun to an event?
So I guess he can still attend the CPT tourneys (save Evo & ComboBreaker, whose respective statements explicitly say he can't even attend) until his second strike where he gets perma'd?
This is perfectly fine, yet some people in here are disappointed the man didn't get publicly executed on stage or something. This ban gives him a chance to clean up his act and redeem himself.
Choppasmith
Member
I agree with this, but then I'm a forgiving, "second chances" kind of guy. Give the guy a decent enough chance to turn things around with with his hobby on the line. If he does it again, drop that ban hammer down HARD!
I believe he was banned for sucker punching a guy.
He was in a MvC2 "legends" side tournament at EVO a few years ago though so it's not a hard ban.
CPT really only applies to SFV. He can still go to lets say. Final Round, but he can't register for Street fighter. He can still play Marvel or any other game there though.
It's why I keep saying I hope this is a ripple effect and actual TO's ban him.
entremet
Member
He threatened violence. I don't remember the details. Could have been that?
He served a five year ban from EVO,
This is him
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ty7VUjGiGoA
Silent Hill
Banned
Good job Capcom. The guys a dick for doing it.
For all the people asking about the perm who pretty much it is guaranteed know nothing about the story, the girl pretty much backed out of it saying it was just joking around.
I am glad that the TOs and Capcom are still reacting, but we know you hate Capcom and we know you are hard asses but know the story.
This is a great first step and a huge push in the right direction.
I am glad that the TOs and Capcom are still reacting, but we know you hate Capcom and we know you are hard asses but know the story.
This is a great first step and a huge push in the right direction.
Good on Capcom for dealing with this quickly. Hope other tournaments catch up on banning players for sexual harassment and other forms of harassment.
There's something cynical in me that says Noel is only being punished because he got caught on camera, though. I know a few people in the FGC who've faced harassment at high-profile events with very little repercussions for the harasser.
There's something cynical in me that says Noel is only being punished because he got caught on camera, though. I know a few people in the FGC who've faced harassment at high-profile events with very little repercussions for the harasser.
SolidSnakex
Member
Capcom only has the power to ban him from tournament they run (online tournaments and CPT Regionals and Finals). Even if they perm'd him he could still attend tournaments but couldn't enter SFV tournaments. It's up to organizers of those tournaments to make the call on whether he can attend at all.
And it's good he got banned for that, but I feel he more so got banned because he threatened well known/popular players.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
Fixed.
There not gonna be able to help him out with this. I can see Chris G trying to pull some shit but I can't see anyone come to his side. Justin isn't talking about it on Twitter.
She said they were joking around. She didn't make as a huge a fuss as she could have, and that's her being cool more than anything and not trying to blow it up into something more. She didn't say whether it was necessarily appropriate or not, but I'm leaning towards not.
Mod edit: That image contain personal info (phone number), let's not do that.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
good, fuck noel brown. hardline stance is needed here
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