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Capcom: Noel Brown banned from Pro Tour 2016
- Thread starter dmr87
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Can't speak for others but a lifetime ban would acknowledge that one is incapable of setting oneself straight and learn from mistakes. Same reason why murder in most cases shouldn't be a lifetime in prison.
And they are making an example of him. He is being punished. I mean I agree he should be banned simply for all the shit he's done, but this is the first time any sort of discipline on a major scale has taken place.
This is probably a bad analogy and I'm sure I'll get called out as such, but lets say I'm caught driving drunk. My license isn't taken away forever for a first offense. I'm normally Temporarily banned from driving.
That's essentially what they are doing in this case. It's sets a precedent not only for this but for anything deemed wrong I assume. From fighting, to doing drugs at the venue etc.
Pretty much you fuck up once you're banned for a year and lose sponsorship. You fuck up in ANY way again and you're gone for good. I can't be against that precedent going forward.
Personally I think he should be gone because he's just a shitlord and does stupid shit
Riposte
Member
It's the general rule of the internet and news stories. Justice feels good, injustice is exciting, and bloodlust intoxicates you. Reading shit on the internet and getting mad about it is the most compelling form of entertainment we can provide ourselves; it being news just makes it more immersive. In order of less to more important it goes victim (source of anger), perpetrator (target of anger), and audience (feeling of anger). As much as we would like to focus on an objective assessment or tell ourselves that this is about far-reaching matters, our emotions are very demanding.
depths20XX
Member
As much as I agree he should be banned for a year, I can't agree with this type of mindset. It assumes that people can never change from their past mistakes and should forever have their life ruined.
The fact that he hasn't issued an apology is certainly telling and he mostly seems to be trying to cover himself. I still have hope that he can change and learn from this punishment.
The ones in this thread are from Andre (the victim's boyfriend) posting the rest of the conversation between herself and Noel where she denies groping him; this was in response to Noel Brown having leaked a partial log of a private conversation between himself and the victim in order to "clear his name".
In the first place the conversations were supposed to be private and they consisted of her trying to appease Noel after the incident blew up to avoid stirring the hornet's nest, but instead Noel Brown leaked these conversations without asking for permission. Ironically they just make him look worse.
I don't think it should be lifetime either, but let's be real: his life isn't getting ruined, he just needs to find a different hobby.
depths20XX
Member
Oh, I agree. I was just using it as a general example of, "Fuck this person forever!"
Dead End Irony
Member
I hope that if a situation like this comes up again (hopefully it doesn't, obviously), people get the necessary details first before jumping to conclusions. A lot of people were up in arms after only seeing the video.
Based off what I've seen though, the right decision has been made. Can't stand that dude anyway lol.
Based off what I've seen though, the right decision has been made. Can't stand that dude anyway lol.
Ugh, disgusting but I can't say I'm surprised. Idk what it is but those types of comments and behavior seems like it "fits" within the FGC's underbelly. There's just something sinister about it. I don't know.
RoninChaos
Member
The community is. The FGC has had issues in the past with misogyny and its treatment of women and this is a great response in order to curb this behavior.
I work for Final Round and shit like this is completely unacceptable. The unfortunate reality is that there are creeps that attend these events and this is a great example of how to weed them out. Would it be better of things like this didn't happen? Yeah, yeah it would. But until we get there this is a great start down the road of the FGC policing itself and making sure EVERYONE feels safe at community events. Speaking personally I know that's what we strive for at Final Round as the core staff is family. Our wives and kids are involved in Final Round and over the years we've had all people of all walks of life and all orientation attend our events. Making sure the event is inclusive and that people feel safe is incredibly important to us.
Noel deserved this. Let's see if he learns.
This wasn't just a hobby though, he was doing this for a living. So yeah, he is kinda fucked.
FadedRevolution
Member
On top of that if you google his name all sorts of bad shit pops up so it might hinder future employment.
Making a living off fighting games is incredibly difficult, and Ultra Arcade would at best cover Noel for travel/lodging/registration fees on some tournaments. Most sponsored players have another job as their main income.
You've been able to google incidents centered around him since 2011 though, this is just another thing added to the list.
Cow Mengde
Banned
Glad to see swift action was taken. Zero tolerance for this kind of behavior.
FadedRevolution
Member
I don't think they have gained as much traction as this one tho
The_R3medy_
Neo Member
Glad to see Capcom enforce their rules sharply and set an example. Judging by the video/gif I've seen of the incident it seems pretty cut and dry.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
He's gonna have a difficult time getting a serious full-time job if he wants one.
KingdomHeartsFan
Member
Ya I got the two events mixed up, but this is even worse. Saying what can be done about physical assault besides banning him? Really?
I hate to use r/kappa as a source, but I think what you're referring to is him quitting a job to focus on MvC3 https://www.reddit.com/r/Kappa/comments/4iip8v/noel_brown_beats_employment/d2ydxox
If he quit a job again for SFV that's insane. It's unsustainable unless you're already at the top or very close.
7DollarHagane
Banned
Good move by the event organizers. It doesn't need to be a lifetime ban because even creeps can get their shit together. It was a butt grab. It's reprehensible but not the end of the world.
Hopefully he learns from this. The guy has been insulated because of his friends for too long. People just need to be humbled and learn sometimes.
Hopefully he learns from this. The guy has been insulated because of his friends for too long. People just need to be humbled and learn sometimes.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
The girl can get the police involved for sexual assault if she wants to. I wanna believe the TOs asked her if she wanted to get them involved.
Which I believe she should. Ban from playing and warning is just a slap on wrist because it doesn't affect him in anyway and will continue to do it again.
BronsonLee
Member
Hope the booty grab was worth it, Noel!
Futurematic
Member
Fantastic if he learns from it, I expect an article by him sometime before the next year of tournaments about how's he learned as a person to be honest though.
But hey I'm cynical, if he's honest about half a decade of unacceptable behaviour and actually changes I'm 100% on board, I believe in rehabilitation. (Edit: lifetime ban is easy punishment, if he does fuck up again though.)
RomanticHeroX
Member
If you sexually assault a coworker in any other job you would never get such a lenient penalty.
Dude just stop.
Dude flipped on Smoothviper because he was having a hard time in life. His mom had passed and getting hype Viper had been messing with his belongings, on top of trashing talking on him that whole set. I'd agree if it was anybody else, but Smoothviper is a known big time shit talker and everyone has probably wanted to swing on him, difficult times in life or not.
They made up and both apoligized for acting like assholes. Stop commenting on situation you know absolutely nothing about or at least learn how to read and comprehend.
Smdh...... isn't that boy over 30? Time to grow the fuck up, he isn't even on that level.
R_thanatos
Member
I feel that this answer is the right one
JrBaconCheeseburger
Member
What a loser.
He won't be missed at the tournaments anyway.
He won't be missed at the tournaments anyway.
Keep your damn hands to yourself and stop trying to touch girls for a split second
m_shortpants
Member
Good. About time this violent guy was removed from the scene.
Had some more choice language, but I'll leave it at that
Had some more choice language, but I'll leave it at that
CrispyBoar
Banned
How old is this guy, in his 30's or something?
Dude needs to learn to grow up, act like an adult & stop being a damn idiot. He's always getting in trouble all the time, always.
Dude needs to learn to grow up, act like an adult & stop being a damn idiot. He's always getting in trouble all the time, always.
Allforce
Member
Holy shit I tuned in for 2 minutes and this guy (Noel) and the host are straight doubling-down.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
Yeah, that's the on-blast show.
Yeah but we have Triforce defending Cosby now.
You missed him during the start of the show talking about how he secretly records himself having sex with women and also even taken hidden pictures during "orgies" ...because he says he gonna make mad money and does not want to get Bill Cosbied...
I am all for him being banned, it just isn't suitable what he did. I don't believe banning him forever.
But for real, if Noel is getting banned.
How the absolute FUCK is Aris Bakhtanians still allowed to commentate?
Remember this shit?
http://kotaku.com/5889415/this-is-what-a-gamers-sexual-harassment-looks-like
But for real, if Noel is getting banned.
How the absolute FUCK is Aris Bakhtanians still allowed to commentate?
Remember this shit?
http://kotaku.com/5889415/this-is-what-a-gamers-sexual-harassment-looks-like
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