And that is what I missed. That classic sense of being knocked off balance by huge monsters, the great boss fights and how well the grappling hook mechanic worked for zipping around the environments. Lost Planet 3 was not Lost Planet in any way for me. It felt more like a bog standard third person shooter with a mech element tossed in. But sure, I guess Jim was sort of a likable character that they tried to make you care about. That is not what I want in a Lost Planet game, though.
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Capcom share holders do not approve stock take over defense
- Thread starter GekigangerV
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And that is what I missed. That classic sense of being knocked off balance by huge monsters, the great boss fights and how well the grappling hook mechanic worked for zipping around the environments. Lost Planet 3 was not Lost Planet in any way for me. It felt more like a bog standard third person shooter with a mech element tossed in. But sure, I guess Jim was sort of a likable character that they tried to make you care about. That is not what I want in a Lost Planet game, though.
shaowebb
Member
Called this over a year ago though I still gave them 2 more years in my prediction before going under or being bought. We'll see if it plays out the way I read the market would before this finishes finishes out though...
Capcom hasn't existed in awhile...the people who made Capcom actually the Capcom we all loved have been gone for awhile. The few who remained were no longer really able to do the things they needed to due to the way their board treats development now. Hell Ono collapsed and we've seen the kind of quick money milking they tried to pull with DLC and other stuff...they've been killing themselves for years. They aren't who they were and haven't been for some time...we shouldn't pretend otherwise.
They need someone else with a more competent board of directors to take over. This is NEEDED and they really do need to be bought out for the future of their IP to stand a chance of not disappearing.
Best hope is Namco or Nintendo who would respect the IP's enough to use them properly. Sorry if you feel like bitching about Nintendo on this one since it'd mean exclusivity for their consoles, but the fact is Nintendo is pretty damned good at stuff like Breath of Fire, Megaman, Monster Hunter, Power Stone and a ton of the other titles you keep wanting Capcom to do justice with. They wouldn't piss out titles halfway...they'd at least make certain the titles got the kind of dev cycle and care they deserved and I seriously doubt they'd toss talent like Niitsuma and Ono aside. If anything they'd let them do what they needed to and stop turning them into zombies by overworking them. Thats why I include Nintendo in this...they are japanese-centric and traditionalistic enough to not change the IP's but they are protective enough of their reputation as developers of quality games that they would not shovel out poor quality games.
There is a STRONG likelihood that certain mobile giants will swoop in to buy them just for easily milkable faces to throw into their mobile microtransaction models and to give them a console foothold, though. Pray they dont get them or the titles you know of will likely not return in the manner you wish.
My thoughts are that Namco, and Nintendo are solid fits here for a buyout of IPs or of Capcom as a whole. Sega has strong arcade roots, but even though they pulled a ton of profit it was due to reorganizing and selling certain assets. I doubt they'd acquire Capcom regardless of their similar backgrounds and interests. Koei/Tecmo has a lot of potential as a good fit, but I doubt they are into acquiring new studios at the moment (they do far more than Musou...look up their publishings.).
Thats how I see things on a sale. Its needed, there are places that'd do well by us all to take over Capcom's IPs and there are those who could bury them as well who have good reason to show interest. Its up in the air and it'll come down to money in the end. Thats the scary part...the best homes for Capcom aren't the ones with the most money to outbid folks.
Capcom hasn't existed in awhile...the people who made Capcom actually the Capcom we all loved have been gone for awhile. The few who remained were no longer really able to do the things they needed to due to the way their board treats development now. Hell Ono collapsed and we've seen the kind of quick money milking they tried to pull with DLC and other stuff...they've been killing themselves for years. They aren't who they were and haven't been for some time...we shouldn't pretend otherwise.
They need someone else with a more competent board of directors to take over. This is NEEDED and they really do need to be bought out for the future of their IP to stand a chance of not disappearing.
Best hope is Namco or Nintendo who would respect the IP's enough to use them properly. Sorry if you feel like bitching about Nintendo on this one since it'd mean exclusivity for their consoles, but the fact is Nintendo is pretty damned good at stuff like Breath of Fire, Megaman, Monster Hunter, Power Stone and a ton of the other titles you keep wanting Capcom to do justice with. They wouldn't piss out titles halfway...they'd at least make certain the titles got the kind of dev cycle and care they deserved and I seriously doubt they'd toss talent like Niitsuma and Ono aside. If anything they'd let them do what they needed to and stop turning them into zombies by overworking them. Thats why I include Nintendo in this...they are japanese-centric and traditionalistic enough to not change the IP's but they are protective enough of their reputation as developers of quality games that they would not shovel out poor quality games.
There is a STRONG likelihood that certain mobile giants will swoop in to buy them just for easily milkable faces to throw into their mobile microtransaction models and to give them a console foothold, though. Pray they dont get them or the titles you know of will likely not return in the manner you wish.
My thoughts are that Namco, and Nintendo are solid fits here for a buyout of IPs or of Capcom as a whole. Sega has strong arcade roots, but even though they pulled a ton of profit it was due to reorganizing and selling certain assets. I doubt they'd acquire Capcom regardless of their similar backgrounds and interests. Koei/Tecmo has a lot of potential as a good fit, but I doubt they are into acquiring new studios at the moment (they do far more than Musou...look up their publishings.).
Thats how I see things on a sale. Its needed, there are places that'd do well by us all to take over Capcom's IPs and there are those who could bury them as well who have good reason to show interest. Its up in the air and it'll come down to money in the end. Thats the scary part...the best homes for Capcom aren't the ones with the most money to outbid folks.
shaowebb
Member
If capcom got bought by Nintendo it'd likely be the truest return to form for the company in terms of quality that they could hope for. Nintendo could definitely do wonders for a return of Megaman, but not just that. Breathe of Fire, Power Stone and Ghosts n Goblins all fit things Nintendo has done well at creating simlar titles to in the past. Also can you imagine your next Resident Evil worked on by Retro? How about Monolith helping out with the next Monster Hunter or Dragons Dogma?
Plus it'd be nice to see a company like Nintendo get ahold of a Fighting Game division. I highly doubt they'd work Ono/Niitsuma into the ground the way Capcom did.
Odds on if anyone stands a chance of making Capcom games come back in the manner we've all wished for it'd be Nintendo who could make it happen. They need the IPs and they are damn sure adamant about game quality upon launch and wouldn't try to just piss out titles. Their reputation as solid game producers is largely what has kept them on the market in the face of the giants that formed around them in the market.
Capcom would be exclusive...but it wouldn't matter anymore because they would be able to be the Capcom games we loved again.
EDIT: whoa...apparently #NintendoBuyCapcom is already being passed around on twitter. Seems folks are pushing that one already...
I noticed that and... man, that's crazy
Would't they just need 51% of the stocks?
Isleofsancroy
Banned
Winterfang
Banned
Microsoft please buy Capcom. Rare is already dried.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
"Hey Microsoft--you destroyed Rare. Please buy Capcom and kill it off, too!"
Excuse me but what's the logic behind this affirmation? Please elaborate.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
I don't know, all I wanna know is if Capcom gonna release anything on PS4 this gen,
Oh on top of the ip's, studios etc
Sony would probably want to secure the Resident Evil franchise both for PlayStation and Sony Pictures, those films actually make them money ya know.
Oh on top of the ip's, studios etc
Sony would probably want to secure the Resident Evil franchise both for PlayStation and Sony Pictures, those films actually make them money ya know.
Perhaps not in the short-term, but as a long-term investment it would be beneficial to Nintendo especially during the remainder of this generation and next generation onwards. Those Nintendo/Capcom exclusives will fill the gaps left by the Wii U's lack of third party support.
Same goes for the Wii 3 and the 4DS next generation too.
Over the course of time Nintendo will go from having:
2DMario
3D Mario
Zelda
Metroid
Yoshi
Kirby
Wii Sports
SSB
Wii Fit
Pikmin
Xenoblade Chronicles
Fire Emblem
Wars
Kid Icarus
Wave Race
1080
F-Zero
Luigi's Mansion
To having the above franchises available plus:
Monster Hunter
Resident Evil
Dead Rising
Mega Man
Street Fighter
Franchisename Vs Capcom
Dragon's Dogma
Deep Down
Devil May Cry
Lost Planet
Okami
Viewtiful Joe
Ghosts n Goblins
I've probably forgotten a few but that's pretty much doubled the amount of franchises that Nintendo currently have and with those available they don't really need third party support for the rest of this generation and for any other generation going forward.
They can pretty much tell third parties to fuck right off if they don't want to support their consoles lol
Yes but I would imagine that Nintendo or any other publishers interested in the company would want more than just a controlling share of the company.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
This is what I said, JapanStudio has old Silent Hill and Resident Evil developers, get them and the rest of the RE team together and we might actually get a scary RE game.
Gonzo The Great
Banned
Nintendo should just buy the Mega Man IP and forget about the rest.
Super Stardust
Member
Do it Nintendo! A wise announcer once said "MEGA MAN! MEGA MAN! MEGA MAN! MEGA MAN!"
Literally the only company that still makes good games for their mascot characters, and the only current company making good use of this specific character, and you're against it...
I mean, I would understand more if you said "Devil May Cry or Resident Evil", but Megaman? No better master than Nintendo.
Riposte
Member
This is what I mean. Complete and utter delusion that unravels with the simplest of thoughts. The first being: who is going to make all these games and how are they going to afford it?
someguyinahat
Member
Everyone's thinking of the obvious answer (Nintendo.)
My money's on Nordic Games.
My money's on Nordic Games.
Digital-Hero
Member
Capcom belongs multi-platform. Not under the rule of the evil shogun, Nintendo, who refuses to die instead of change and become relevant.
Imperfected
Member
Stare longingly at a cooked turkey in a deli window while snow falls slowly around their forlorn figure?
The same people who are making those games right now.
Unless buying Capcom involves getting rid of all their development studios and firing all their employees.
They would essentially be the owner of the company if they control the majority of the shares. No?
Not their style.
fredrancour
Member
I guess people are assuming that the mere fact that a takeover defense was on the table implies that somebody within capcom thinks a takeover has a real chance of happening. Do we as random fools have any information to support such an assumption besides this shareholder vote?
Nintendo's developers, Capcom's developers and indie developers such as Platinum Games, Crytek etc. And they can fund them from profits from current first party titles, hardware sales and profits from Capcom's current release lineup, both exclusive and multiplatform.
They're not going to buy them and suddenly can their current titles for other platforms or remove already released multiplatform titles from shop shelves.
And it isn't a short-term investment either, long-term it reduces Nintendo's reliance on third party support for future platforms in future generations.
Tallshortman
Member
Uh what? None of those titles besides RE are big sellers in the west. Wasn't DR3 not even going to happen without MS money? They won't even give ono enough money to do anything with SF besides expansions like ultra on current gen. DMC may limp it's way to 2 mil. RE is really the only thing that is of any importance in US/EU.
Riposte
Member
The games Capcom are making are less than their complete list of IP (and the same is true for Nintendo, for that matter). More importantly, Capcom uses a lot of external development (included hiring known developers, like Ninja Theory and CyberConnect2). Consider, for example, that Street Fighter IV and Street Fighter x Tekken was made with Dimps.
Thinking about it, is Capcom likley to participate in a IP sale before they go bankrupt, or is it all going to go down with the ship? Because I don't see Nintendo being a benefit to any franchise they have besides the Blue Bomber. (And maybe Viewtiful Joe. Who knows, we could even get a sequ-ahahahahahah, couldn't say that with a straight face.)
Vigilant Walrus
Member
Street Fighter, Devil May Cry, and Mega Man are all household names.
Many of the others fit Nintendo's profile. It makes sense to have control of these IP's. For loyalty, for independence.
I am worried Bandai-Namco or Square-Enix will snap them up before that? It would be bad if Square-Enix got their hands on them. They would do well under Nintendo I think!
The real answer is a heretofore undiscussed media conglomerate. The consequences will not be felt immediately.
Nobody in either community actually wants that.
Nobody in either community actually wants that.
Riposte
Member
What is there to say that they will die? This thread only highlights that they are vulnerable to a stock takeover.
darkhunger
Member
Where are people getting the idea that Capcom is going bankrupt? The company still turns a consistent profit every year and has been doing so for the last ten years (unlike the big console manufacturers like Nintendo). They really aren't in dire straits just yet.
It really doesn't matter what happens with them, the relevant franchises will carry on in some form whether that's from internal development studios or external development studios.
If Nintendo were to buy Capcom (not gonna happen, but hypothetically), there's nothing stopping Capcom from working with DIMPs or whoever they're using now for Street Fighter V (which I absolutely believe is in the early stages of development).
Square Enix aren't in the position to buy a round of drinks let alone Capcom as far as I'm aware.
Shite...I've just had a VERY scary thought - what if EA bought them out..? Not good. :Oo
If what you meant was that Nintendo wouldn't be able to develop and release Capcoms complete list of IP, then I agree with that. But I doubt any company would be able to do that. I think what most people here are talking about is if Nintendo can manage Capcoms current output with an emphasis on games that fill the gaps left by Nintendo.
Tallshortman
Member
DMC is not a household name, it has been a fairly popular franchise but never SF or mega man level. SF is really the only one with high sales potential if done right (MM even if done right is still a good but not great seller, DMC has a higher ceiling but certainly not guaranteed 5+mil needed for tentpole status) but once again nothing in that IP list signifies allowing Nintendo to not care about actual third party support.
Do it Nintendo! A wise announcer once said "MEGA MAN! MEGA MAN! MEGA MAN! MEGA MAN!"
"FIGHTING TO SAVE THE WORLD!"
Maybe Nintendo is saving the world by buying Capcom?