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Capcom wants to grow Monster Hunter in West, feels handhelds are limiting sales there
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Bjoern the Smexy
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Switch is still slated for a March 2017 release. No specific date has been given. We will know about that one in the Switch presentation on January 12th, though, as well as price and probably games that fall into the release window (which Nintendo considers up to 6 or so months after the console's release).
Aztechnology
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MH4 Ultimate on my New 3ds XL hurt my eyes.
MH4 Ultimate on my New 3ds XL hurt my eyes.
No shit, this has been obvious for years.
Every fucking iteration has been held back from its potential for growth because it was stuck on handhelds. I understand that's where it became huge in Japan, but I feel like they could have put in a little effort to make an entry that would appeal to the West. Even when Monster Hunter Tri, and later Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate came out on Wii, and Wii U respectively, but those were hardly the right systems to facilitate the growth of a potential audience that would enjoy the games.
During the days of PS3/360, it just seemed like a no brainer that a game like Monster Hunter could have been huge given proper console support, with a good party system where friends might wanna group up and play together with voice chat on Xbox Live. Games driven by loot hunting have been huge in the past, and Monster Hunter always seemed like a fresh different take on it when it was still relatively new.
Every fucking iteration has been held back from its potential for growth because it was stuck on handhelds. I understand that's where it became huge in Japan, but I feel like they could have put in a little effort to make an entry that would appeal to the West. Even when Monster Hunter Tri, and later Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate came out on Wii, and Wii U respectively, but those were hardly the right systems to facilitate the growth of a potential audience that would enjoy the games.
During the days of PS3/360, it just seemed like a no brainer that a game like Monster Hunter could have been huge given proper console support, with a good party system where friends might wanna group up and play together with voice chat on Xbox Live. Games driven by loot hunting have been huge in the past, and Monster Hunter always seemed like a fresh different take on it when it was still relatively new.
dragonlife
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More people are aware of the series now than ever before, but may not be playing it because of the handheld aspect. That or they tried it but couldn't cope with the controls (which aren't inherently a handheld problem, to a point).
Says you. And I. I'm sure we pretty much all say that. But the core audience is located in Japan and most of them think differently. Different culture.
I would LOVE to see this. I'm just thinking from a business perspective. Pouring all those resources into a proper console MH for the West while not knowing if that would make it any more popular than it is today is a high risk. If it was to flop the next mobile MH would have to make serious bank to balance that out.
But eh, I'm not an investor. Give us a modern MH, Capcom. Release it on PS4/XBO and Switch if that helps. Just make it modern and cool.
RecursiveFault
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Well, the controls had been roughly the same for a good 7 years or so. Though activating your special moves in Gen is kinda silly, having to tap the touchscreen. If you have a CPP or N3DS you can set 2 of them to the alternative triggers tho.
I feel its relevant to mention some of the most successful entries were on the PSP, where camera control was done purely via the dpad.
The PSP MonHun claw grip is something.
But yeah, any home console-y option will do wonders for convincing a lot of my friends to get into it, so I hope they do it well.
If they're talking about being popular in the west(especially at this point) then it's PS4 they're looking at.
RecursiveFault
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It was purely marketed to JP, even though it came out infrequently in the West back then. I do get what you mean though, MohHun lives on handhelds primarily. And trying to move back to the PS3 and Wii both did poorly to mediocre.
Also the OG PS2 game is fucking weird, the attacks are mapped to the right stick, so you still didn't have proper camera controls.
Herb Alpert
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Monster hunter general port begging: the thread 6489
Ploid 3.0
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A console with flawed online. I played a ton of PS2 online, but it's crap compared to how online is today. Though I'd have to look up how well MH PS2 online was to start. Each game had their own online service. FF11 was good, it had to be for a sub based online game. Socom was neat, other than that, I don't remember many great PS2 online games.
This is a odd comment in this thread, a thread about Capcom wanting to grow Monster Hunter horizons.
Skeletos311
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I think the lootwhore audience is on PC in the West, but they're not going to get them with the PC MH, since apparently those suck.
RecursiveFault
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The one that exists isn't a 'real' monhun. It's a chinese-only MMO by a different dev.
Frontier games are also on 360/PS3, but they also are outsourced and bad.
Grim Patron
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Monster Hunter remains an almost exclusively marketed JP title with JP styled gameplay.
If they want to expand in the West greater then they need an Americanized Monster Hunter.
TyMiles2012
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PS4, XO (West only likely since that's how AoT turned out), Switch and 3DS versions with cross platform online play. Bam. You got a franchise seller.
Well, I don't think Sony and Nintendo will play nice on cross platform. Microsoft seems to be the only one completely open to it.
dragonlife
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Not the OSTs <3
GarciaHotspur
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PS4 please
RecursiveFault
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If they want like, major success definitely, but 4U did pretty damn well for what it is. Attempts in this direction were already made, so it's just another one of those, to me.
Mr. Pointy
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PS4/Switch/maybe PC and XBO is happening. I love handheld MH, but I know it was a limiting factor to the series' appeal in the West. But is it MH5 for all systems, or is it MH5 for PS4/etc. and MHP5 for Switch? We don't know.
Man, they should turn MH into a "Hero Hunter" game on PC. Each hero has a different weapon and abilities. A team of 4 tries to kill a monster, the quicker they can do it the more points they get. With Loot Boxes. F2P. eSports. ¥¥¥¥
RecursiveFault
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Anyway the biggest thing is not splitting the userbase imo. Playing with friends is the best.
Time for me to look up some youtube playlists.
Muchi Muchi Pink
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And here we go: the flood gates are open again for port beggers who have not the slightest interest in the series, if it's not an their favorite platform.
Edit: if they change gameplay to appeal to the west, I'm out. Next franchise destroyed right after BIO, Lost Planet, DMC etc.
I love the fact, that people still think that if it's on PS4 it will sell gangbusters by itself. Just like SFV, right?
Edit: if they change gameplay to appeal to the west, I'm out. Next franchise destroyed right after BIO, Lost Planet, DMC etc.
I love the fact, that people still think that if it's on PS4 it will sell gangbusters by itself. Just like SFV, right?
Ploid 3.0
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Dragon Quest X is cross play between PS and Nintendo right? They seem cool about that.
AzureSkies
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Herb Alpert
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Mr. Pointy
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If MH5 PS4 did its job increasing the series' visibility in the West by selling 2-3 million, then I'd say it's a success. And the sell ratio would probably be closer to 1m Japan, 3m West, considering how poop the PS4 is selling Japan.
Don't give Capcom ideas.
Why not. Or sell it like Overwatch. Not F2P but free new characters and monsters. Loot Boxes are just cosmetics. That could be a fun new way to play that would also eliminate resource gathering.
Monhun PS4 here we go.
Lol aww how cute don't worry switch would definitely get monhun. Or is it the possibility for it to multiplat tick you off
Pancakes R Us
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I reckon this means MH is hitting PlayStation at the very least, if not XBO also. Let's face it, Switch is probably going to hit nowhere near the numbers of both.
NegativeCero
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Give me that gorgeous console MH I've always wanted. This game was made for high fidelity with all of its loot and monsters.
lol.....you think MH could sell 3M on PS4 in the west ? Just shows how delusional some people are in thinking - PS4/XBO or PS3/360 version = instant success.
You know how many full price games not called GTA, Fifa or CoD have sold more than 3m on PS4 this generation ? Have you seen a japanese 3rdParty PS4 game for longer than 2 months in the NPD charts this gen ?
3 million sounds too high IMO.
I, for one, honestly doubt that the West's problem with MoHon is the platform. Maybe it would benefit more from adding (a proper) lock on system, adding AAA for awesome, and maybe a few towers here and there (not to mention a huge emphasis on graphics) to make it click with audience more than just switching platforms.
Anyhow, I can't really complain if MoHun is being: (a) released in the West; and (b) in more platforms than usual.
Anyhow, I can't really complain if MoHun is being: (a) released in the West; and (b) in more platforms than usual.
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I think it's also delusional that MH5 will hit 3-5m alone on the Switch too, but you'll never know.
The more platforms + a mobile app will hit decent targets though.
Pretty sure the point is expand the base they sell too not just stay the same with shifted sales. So they are in a pickle as US and Japanese sensibilities will require balancing. Consoles are dead in Japan.
PS4/Switch multiplatform is their best hope. But then last week Capcom specifically commented on how difficult it is to do a multiplatform between Sony and Nintendo due to different policies etc
reminds me of the poster that said Monster Hunter can reach GTA/Destiny sales if they put it on Ps4/Xb1 . Lol
Panajev2001a
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Really?
I thought it's more likely they'll continue with the Console/PC ---> Frontier series and Handheld/Switch ---> Mainline.
Why serve only the spinoff to about 60 million current Xbox One + PS4 customers?
Ploid 3.0
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Those are not thread derailing posts, this is what the thread is about. They want Capcom to make the game for PC and PS4 as they evaluate which console to grow to. Maybe they'll end up putting it on mobile in the end. The "Port beg" complaints are usually because people are derailing threads about announced games for a particular console that have no plans to be on the requested platforms.
I think it's also delusional that MH5 will hit 3-5m alone on the Switch too, but you'll never know.
The more platforms + a mobile app will hit decent targets though.
...no one is saying it will that much on Switch. These ales are only possible if it a multi release and also on 3DS.
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