No, I understood.
Again:
Cap: "Fuck guys, we can't ignore this"
Everyone else: "You're right, let's go"
Result: No worse off than before.
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Captain America: Civil War SPOILER Thread - #TeamThanos
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No, I understood.
Again:
Cap: "Fuck guys, we can't ignore this"
Everyone else: "You're right, let's go"
Result: No worse off than before.
echoshifting
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Personally I enjoyed Spidey's joke about Cap's shield and physics, but I can't remember how it goes
Manmademan
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Then they're fighting the UN and Warlords at the same time, and become international fugitives.
Yes please because that really got a crack out of me.
Piku_Ringo
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Dat Smile from Bucky and Sam after Cap finally kisses the girl.
Manmademan
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I remember it being "man that thing doesn't obey the laws of physics AT ALL"
which is hilarious because it really doesn't. That shield seems to do whatever the script requires
Really enjoyed it. My only complaint would be that Spiderman should have been kept as a surprise and not revealed in the last trailer. When Stark said he "knew someone", everyone in my theater pretty much knew he was referring to Parker. I think the theater reaction would have been awesome had we not known ahead of time.
I really like the new Spiderman, and Holy shit, how smoking hot was Marisa Tomei? I'm in my 40's, so she's still very appealing!
I really like the new Spiderman, and Holy shit, how smoking hot was Marisa Tomei? I'm in my 40's, so she's still very appealing!
We're not comparing it to a world where the offer never came, we're comparing it to a world where they've already been told to sign this or be fugitives.
Option A) Be fugitives and ignore international law's olive branch
Option B) Have some oversight that is more likely than not going to let you fight things like fucking aliens and AI's dropping countries on people, and if your convictions say they're fucking things up you ignore them, and end up ignoring the government just like option A.
Option B is literally a strictly superior option.
PhoncipleBone
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That thing isn't obeying the laws of physics at all.
Spidey calling it like it is. And then Cap wrecked his shit, but nicely.
I wish there were more Sam/Bucky scenes; they were hilarious together.
RellyRell28
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If this doesn't happen the movie will flop
echoshifting
Banned
That's why it was so great. It was practically a wall-breaking wink.
WaterAstro
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The biggest laugh for the audience I think was when Captain America was holding onto the Helicopter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ccey7IJLCM
Mainly since Cap's just looks so jacked at this point.
Why would anyone laugh at that?
It's a pretty heartfelt moment and really shows how much Cap cares for Bucky. It's the same moment as the end of Winter Soldier.
Emerson's Essentia
Banned
My experience with this film was... weird.
I didn't like it nearly as much as I expected to... but I'm not sure if it's due to the production itself or viewing circumstances.
The audio/visual experience lacked a ton of "oomph".
I had to strain to hear dialogue, the fight scene sfx lacked impact, and a lot of the CGI just seemed suspect.
I found it hard to follow a lot of the action.... a problem I've never had before.
I was just completely unmoved by the film, despite it clearly being the most weighty MCU project to date. Just... weird.
I need to see it again ASAP. Possibly at a different theater.
I didn't like it nearly as much as I expected to... but I'm not sure if it's due to the production itself or viewing circumstances.
The audio/visual experience lacked a ton of "oomph".
I had to strain to hear dialogue, the fight scene sfx lacked impact, and a lot of the CGI just seemed suspect.
I found it hard to follow a lot of the action.... a problem I've never had before.
I was just completely unmoved by the film, despite it clearly being the most weighty MCU project to date. Just... weird.
I need to see it again ASAP. Possibly at a different theater.
I'd probably substitute the first Captain America with Incredible Hulk.
PhoncipleBone
Banned
endlessflood
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It got a mixture of laughs and groans in my viewing when he switched grips. Probably the biggest misstep of the movie in terms of direction I'd say. Must be a cultural thing, since I'm in the same neck of the woods as you RlanThe biggest laugh for the audience I think was when Captain America was holding onto the Helicopter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ccey7IJLCM
Mainly since Cap's just looks so jacked at this point.
I can already here the bongos or whatever the hell those drums are
piratepwnsninja
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Manmademan
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That's what I was doing. They sign it under false pretenses and ignore it, then they're immediately wanted criminals.
Thor might be able to ignore that, and maybe BP as the head of a sovereign nation but the rest of them wouldn't want to risk living the rest of their lives on the Raft.
Alternatively they're told to go somewhere they don't want to go: say a Vietnam in the 60s situation. They can't refuse at that point without being imprisoned.
George Oscar Bluth II
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Definitely gonna need to get my hands on the Marvel Legends Giant Man figure now. Damn, might have to collect the entire Civil War wave just to get it...
see it at a different theater. Imax theater I was in had my body throbbing with the bass.
PhoncipleBone
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You need this:
The rest of the set is fine, but that brick built Giant Man is amazing.
They're not going to be imprisoned instantaneously like that. It's literally "Hey, we can disobey the law now, or we can see how it pans out and opt to disobey the law at any moment in the future we choose to, cause who the fuck is gonna stop us"
The only reason anyone ended up on the raft here is BECAUSE they let this civil war happen. The governments couldn't stop the Avengers under any circuimstance.
Manmademan
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First captain isn't really necessary, though the zola reveal in cap2 hits harder if you've seen it.
Incredible Hulk is necessary because without that movie you have NO IDEA what a shitstain Thunderbolt Ross is.
Skip it and he's your typical asshole general. Watch it and he's something else entirely. Tony's position becomes a LOT less defensible once you understand Ross will be calling the shots.
Aunt May being 900 years old never made much sense given the fact that Peter started out being 15. Did his grandmother have kids 30 years apart?
George Oscar Bluth II
Banned
Ah shit, I think I need both now hahaha.You need this:
The rest of the set is fine, but that brick built Giant Man is amazing.
Emerson's Essentia
Banned
Also, does anyone have any examples of natural born africans speaking english? I'm not sure I have a reference point for this. I'm asking because I found Chadwick's accent absolutely cringeworthy to the point that it took me out of the film every time he (and his father) spoke.
He sounded worse than an African American doing a bad African immigrant impersonation to me - he sounded like a White American doing a bad African immigrant impersonation.
But I can't tell if I just haven't heard Africans speak English enough yet.
'Birth of a Nation'* is the closest reference frame I have and everything there felt more sincere and legit than this.
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"Beasts of No Nation" not "Birth of a Nation"
He sounded worse than an African American doing a bad African immigrant impersonation to me - he sounded like a White American doing a bad African immigrant impersonation.
But I can't tell if I just haven't heard Africans speak English enough yet.
'Birth of a Nation'* is the closest reference frame I have and everything there felt more sincere and legit than this.
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"Beasts of No Nation" not "Birth of a Nation"
TheFuzz
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As a Lego collector, this set is at the top of my list now. Ant-Man stole the show for me.
Manmademan
Member
Disagree. The Avengers (sans Thor and BP) can't take on the entire world and win, and the Raft was clearly already built and just waiting to be filled with superhumans. They had equipment able to neutralize Wanda ready to go from the start.
The UN could freeze Tony's assets immediately, rendering him broke and his suits nothing more than paperweights.
He was funding everyone else- good luck fighting the militaries of the world with no funds.
And this pretends the government doesn't have any high tech equipment stashed somewhere capable of injuring their heavy hitters (remember the Hydra weapons shield had stockpiled in cap 2) or other enhanced humans they know about but aren't currently actively using like crossbones, abomination, random inhumans, or spider man.
You know Africa is a big ass continent right?
echoshifting
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Emerson's Essentia
Banned
And?
RellyRell28
Banned
Seriously why the fuck do you need someone to die in a movie. It's not really necessary just like it wasn't in this movie.
TheFuzz
Member
My man. He's as much Ant Man now as Downey is Iron Man. He chews his scenes to pieces.
and there are multiple different accents within Africa
call_kotaku
Member
this movie killed both superman and batman, though
On the Ant Man topic, something about the delivery on "I thought it was a water truck" made it way too funny to me
On the Ant Man topic, something about the delivery on "I thought it was a water truck" made it way too funny to me
I personally bust a gut when Peter had questioned how Steve's shield breaks, nay, shatters, every law of physics. That one got me, especially with some of the stunts Cap had performed with it in the film.
TheFuzz
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It's printed. The suit is stickers but the face is a print.
echoshifting
Banned
Oh right on, I might have to get that then
Manmademan
Member
Seriously.
I mean:
Peggy Carter dies
Crossbones suicides, Wanda inadvertently kills 11 people trying to divert the blast
The Avengers are dissolved, everyone sans Tony, Rhodey, and Vision are international fugitives
Rhodey is paralyzed
Steve has given up the shield and presumably the Cap identity
Winter Soldier is sent into deep freeze for the foreseeable future
No stakes lol
TheFuzz
Member
Yeah. There's also a tiny Ant-Man nanofigure included too.
As if there was ever any doubt.
Empyrean Heaven
Member
I was going to say. Goddamn.
Anyway, my one big question is, Stark fixed Extremis, right? So why the fuck doesn't he just use it to fix Rhodes' legs? Unless he was like "Fuck no, I don't care if you fixed it, I don't want there to be even an 0.00001% chance I might blow up."
Manmademan
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See, before this movie came out I was saying how ant Man was the most broken dude there, and no one believed me.
And he didn't do half the things he could have if he was pissed. If that was yellowjacket team Tony would have been massacred.
Empyrean Heaven
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SO WHY DON'T YOU USE EXTREMIS? It fixed Tony's heart, so why can't it fix his legs?
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