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Captain America: Civil War SPOILER Thread - #TeamThanos

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How many Infinity Stones are accounted for right now?

Blue - Thor related
Yellow - Vision related
Purple - Starlord related

So...Red and Green(?) are left?
 
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"Move, or you will be moved."


WHEW! Can't wait to see the Doras in action.
Bruh, when she stepped to Nat looking stout as fuck, I thought it was gonna go down.
 
Also, does anyone have any examples of natural born africans speaking english? I'm not sure I have a reference point for this. I'm asking because I found Chadwick's accent absolutely cringeworthy to the point that it took me out of the film every time he (and his father) spoke.

He sounded worse than an African American doing a bad African immigrant impersonation to me - he sounded like a White American doing a bad African immigrant impersonation.

But I can't tell if I just haven't heard Africans speak English enough yet.

'Birth of a Nation'* is the closest reference frame I have and everything there felt more sincere and legit than this.

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"Beasts of No Nation" not "Birth of a Nation"
If you've met so few Africans that you genuinely have no idea what an African with an accent sounds like outside of a single movie, then I have no idea why you would be cringing. To answer your question, his accent was fine and sounded similar to some people I know.
 
Leading the audience to believe everything would be resolved with a team-up against Zemo and the soldier squad only to ratchet up the tensions and have Zemo sit the fight out was fantastic. Man, what a good flick.
 
Real talk, I was legit distracted how bad Iron Man's suit looked in a lot of this. Tony's head on that shit was woof.

I didn't really notice but I'm not sitting there with a magnifying glass focusing on the CG :p

I mean, maybe it'll be more apparent when you can go through it a bit slower and pick it out, but it seemed mostly fine to me. You can do that with about every instance of CG though.
 
I think the point is that both sides have their ramifications. If Tony were successful at getting Steve to sign the accord, it may have prevented some things, but what happens when Thanos comes down and the Avengers aren't in total control of their team and goods? I got where they were both coming from. Tony was on the logical side of things, Steve was on the emotional side of it. While logic typically trounces emotion when it comes to decision-making, again, what happens in a catastrophic circumstance (that's going to happen and they know it)?

I feel like a proper Tony Stark would have pretty much just said "We'll sign these accords, but we will go rogue if the situation calls for it." It feels really strange that this character who has flouted government intervention and oversight for 2-3 Iron Man films would suddenly fall lockstep in with the UN agreement. I suppose they point out his guilt over the Sokovia deaths as a motivation for demanding that everyone sign on, but it still feels very out of character to me.
 
One thing I am disappointed in so far is Thanos. He's the big bad of the MCU and has only made brief appearances. IMO this is a terrible way to build and establish a strong villain. I realize that there is essentially a two-parter coming up, but isn't that pretty much the finale? I feel like Thanos is just pretty much going to come and go. By this point I feel like we should have really gotten some actual interaction between Thanos and the Avengers.

I'm not saying Captain America movies should do it, but we're like 15 movies into the MCU and Thanos has just been this dumb "biding his time" villain. Harry Potter did this with Voldemort there for a while, but they had already established his connection to the protagonist so it worked. I'm just kind of iffy on Thanos at this point. Doing a huge cinematic universe with a central antagonist but keeping him away from the protagonists isn't working out for me so far.

they didnt even give proper honor to the infinity stones and you want they to give proper honor to Thanos???

How many Infinity Stones are accounted for right now?

Blue - Thor related
Yellow - Vision related
Purple - Starlord related

So...Red and Green(?) are left?

Tesseract
Aether
Vision's Gem
Gem of Power in Guardian's of The Galaxy

There are 2 gems left.
 
Got out of the theater 30min ago. I really liked the film but i'm really uncomfortable with captain america. How many lives they took just for Bucky? Was it worth it when you end up crippling someone from your team? Does being "mind controlled" spare you from the shit you did?

Can't care for bucky, tbh. Too much glory for cap while tony is left alone and blamed for the shit spilled.
 
I feel like a proper Tony Stark would have pretty much just said "We'll sign these accords, but we will go rogue if the situation calls for it." It feels really strange that this character who has flouted government intervention and oversight for 2-3 Iron Man films would suddenly fall lockstep in with the UN agreement. I suppose they point out his guilt over the Sokovia deaths as a motivation for demanding that everyone sign on, but it still feels very out of character to me.
But he did go rogue when it called for it.
 
How many Infinity Stones are accounted for right now?

Blue - Thor related
Yellow - Vision related
Purple - Starlord related

So...Red and Green(?) are left?
Blue = Space (Tesseract in Captain America 1 and Avengers 1) - Vault in Asgard.
Red = Reality (Aether in Thor: The Dark World) - In the Collectors... collection.
Yellow = Mind (Loki's Scepter in A1, AoU) - Vision's big ass forehead.
Purple = Power (The Orb in Guardians of the Galaxy) - Nova Corps protection.

All that's left is Time and Soul.
 
I feel like a proper Tony Stark would have pretty much just said "We'll sign these accords, but we will go rogue if the situation calls for it." It feels really strange that this character who has flouted government intervention and oversight for 2-3 Iron Man films would suddenly fall lockstep in with the UN agreement. I suppose they point out his guilt over the Sokovia deaths as a motivation for demanding that everyone sign on, but it still feels very out of character to me.

Over time he's become less of an egotistical prick and is just getting plain tired of everything, and there was a point to the woman he ran into by the elevator. So I feel like it explains why, and it's one of the reasons I actually was able to sympathize with Tony for the first time in these movies. He's wisened up, even if he's still flawed. Widow even calls out his ego at one point. It's still there, but he's dialed it back.
 
See, before this movie came out I was saying how ant Man was the most broken dude there, and no one believed me.

And he didn't do half the things he could have if he was pissed. If that was yellowjacket team Tony would have been massacred.

All the characters were nerfed that battle.
 
Got out of the theater 30min ago. I really liked the film but i'm really uncomfortable with captain america. How many lives they took just for Bucky? Was it worth it when you end up crippling someone from your team? Does being "mind controlled" spare you from the shit you did?

Can't care for bucky, tbh. Too much glory for cap while tony is left alone and blamed for the shit spilled.
Bucky literally says that in the movie. I think the movie does a good job of show casing Caps flaw with Bucky and that his need to save Bucky has negative consequences for the whole team.
 
But he did go rogue when it called for it.

Exactly the point.

Instead of taking a hardline "We're going to obey these people" stance with Cap and the gang, why doesn't Tony just say "We're going to sign this document to placate them, but we'll do what we want if the threat is great enough". He has to know it's going to come to that sooner or later anyway.
 
Did anybody else Empire Strikes Back reference to be just a liiiiiitttle bit too jarring?

I thought it was dumb, and jarring. The entire airport sequence is entirely too quip-heavy......while the rest of the movie is kinda joyless and overwrought.
 
Interesting, so for Thanos to gather the stones (which of course he will) you have to take two of the most powerful Avengers off the table/severely depower them

We don't know how strong MCU strange is yet.
And vision got MASSIVELY owned by Wanda in civil war. Thanos will have a field day.
 
The CGI was completely fine. The transitions from full Iron Man to RDJ with the helmet off was seamless.


It's really hard to beat that shot from near the end of Age of Ultron, right before the horrid "Hide the Zucchini" line..

The sheer amount of quips is probably my main complaint with AoU. The zucchini and after Thor left probably being the worst ones. Whedon really forced them into the movie.

Civil War's comedy was just about perfect.


One of them is the pendant/medallion in Dr strange

Yup. I think the next one will show up in Thor 3
 
Leading the audience to believe everything would be resolved with a team-up against Zemo and the soldier squad only to ratchet up the tensions and have Zemo sit the fight out was fantastic. Man, what a good flick.

If they hadn't shown the Cap-Bucky beat down in the first trailer, this might have worked.
 
Exactly the point.

Instead of taking a hardline "We're going to obey these people" stance with Cap and the gang, why doesn't Tony just say "We're going to sign this document to placate them, but we'll do what we want if the threat is great enough". He has to know it's going to come to that sooner or later anyway.

I think the power of emotion regarding decision making is one of the cruces of the film. Stark is visibly distraught after the confrontation with the grieving mother. At this point: Stark just wants to stop fucking up. Doesn't care how it happens.
 
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