Ragnorok64
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I didn't think Vision was there from the beginning of the fight I thought he actually arrived late.
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Captain America: Civil War SPOILER Thread - #TeamThanos
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Yeezus H. Christ
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Chill eh, Falcon was the funniest part of the movie.
Damn, I love how they sold him as a credible Avenger in this film. Dude got a massive upgrade from Winter Soldier.
He arrived late due to getting buried deep beneath the earth. Once he's there though, he's just busy trying to contain Wanda and then later Ant-Man.
foxuzamaki
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I feel like he is gonna come back in a later movie, idk I just got that impression at the end. Zemo has one of the best yet grounded suits ive seen in the comics imo and I found it a waste that he never put it on. it would have worked well in real life so they didnt have to do a workaround to make it "look cool" to the general audience.
Just make sure Wanda doesn't get into his field of... vision, else he becomes the worse character ever.
User 73706
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Yeah, I figured he was still phasing through the ground or something.
ViewtifulJC
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a lot of the movie could've been avoided if dudes just talked, but that would be boring
Felt like the extended cameo that it was.
I thought that would be where Falcon dies.
foxuzamaki
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How is this falcon compared to the comics? I feel like making his wings like good with stealth and multitasking and other stuff really elevated him from a guy who can just fly and therefore is limited in what he can be used for to really versatile and awesome.
I think Steve wanted to confront Bucky first about it, but things escalated too quickly after he found him and everyone gets captured thanks to Black Panther.
ViewtifulJC
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Well he normally doesnt use guns in the comics. And they're aren't armored up to block bullets and shit.
Makes me wonder what function Hawkeye will have in future films.
Steve? Steve knew. It was the combination of watching his parents being killed on video and knowing Steve didn't tell.him that set him off. Had he known I don't think the video would have affected him as much- you wouldn't have the lying on top of the new knowledge of how it happened.
But at least it made sense why they wouldn't have talked about it. Some people might've said something while others wouldn't. It wasn't filled with the type of implausible misunderstandings that other movies have.
Pop
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Him using his wings as a shield against gunfire was brilliant
Escape Goat
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Wanda learned in AoU mind control is a big no no. Not to mention the whole mess was a result of Bucky being mind controlled for 70 years.
That little clip is really what sells Tony going to Spider-Man rather than any of the other heroes from Hells Kitchen. He had 36 hours to stop Cap, might as well go with the most impressive hero they hadn't approached yet.
In a sense, yeah. I thought the ending was less "everyone is triumphant and happy again!" than people seem to label it as.
Cap sorta says he's sorry and Tony lays low to rethink things and recover after he almost loses himself by almost killing Bucky. It's just colored as more positive than negative which was fine for me.
Nat is to blame as well. I'm sure she knew when she gave the Winter Soldier file to Steve in TWS. That's why she said "They're are some threads you may not want to untangle". But then again we knew where her true alliance lies in MCU.
But I think depending on the timing, Stark may still be pissed off about it. Besides, how do you aproach such sensitive topic?
PadWarrior
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When he shot missles that went up and then came down on those soldiers, man that was sick.
He won't be in future films because he will "retire" to an NYC apartment, have his own Netflix series, and be recast.
Absolutely, but I don't think anyone has the same rapport with Tony as Steve which is why I think it hurt as much as it did.
foxuzamaki
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it made me realize that I dont even know how he fights in the comics
It also really establishes that spiderman is actually really strong, like people thought he was super human in strength but not too impressive compared to alot of fictional characters that have super strength, i think thats a prevailing opinion, but it almost feels like the russos wanted to disprove that right away with him stopping the car.
Yeezus H. Christ
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Tony going, "You don't deserve that shield!" as Cap hobbles away really reminds me of another similar fight scene, I can't put my finger on it.
Fuck. Someone help me.
Fuck. Someone help me.
Ragnorok64
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I feel like they still do a good job of making everyone relevant. Falcon still seems to be the best flyer in the movies. The acrobatic maneuvers he pulls off are well above what we've seen anyone else do as far as I recall.
In the subject of flyers, while it works for the sense of dramatics, when you consider how fast the Iron Man suits are implied/shown to be there's no reason they shouldn't have been able to catch War Machine who was just falling at the speed of gravity.
In the subject of flyers, while it works for the sense of dramatics, when you consider how fast the Iron Man suits are implied/shown to be there's no reason they shouldn't have been able to catch War Machine who was just falling at the speed of gravity.
foxuzamaki
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I know what you're getting at but I cant remember either, it reminded me of another fight scene aswell.
Revenge of the Sith's fight between Obi-Wan and Anakin? (lol)
Yeezus H. Christ
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Doesn't Zemo confess as much when they confront him?
Wouldn't worry about any hate thrown at him... doesn't seem to be the consensus. I thought he was spot-on perfect. The kind of Peter Parker and Spider-Man I've always wanted to see in a movie, and lots of room to grow into a mature and confident hero.
I'm also glad in the end that he wasn't in the movie any more than he was. Was just what it needed to be. Spidey is simply a much bigger character in pop culture than Captain America and you can run the risk of having him steal the show.
What I got from the small exchange of:
"Did you know?"
"I didn't know it was him."
Was that Cap found out at some point from SHIELD that "the Winter Soldier" was responsible for killing Howard Stark (and at this point elected not to tell Tony), but didn't know that that meant it was Bucky until the events of The Winter Soldier the movie. Could be wrong though.
Yeah, it's an awful situation all around.
Noooo. Tell me it's not true. lol
Yeezus H. Christ
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He learns this from Friday essentially, while on the way to The Raft.
So, my guess on who will feature in upcoming films in this MCU phase
Doctor Strange - Nobody
Guardians of the Galaxy 2 - Nobody
Spider-Man - Iron Man, maybe Vision and War Machine but most likely just him
Thor: Ragnarok - Hulk
Black Panther - could see this essentially being Infinity War Part 0; wouldn't be surprised to see Cap, Falcon, Scarlet Witch, and Hawkeye in it
Ant-Man and the Wasp - Doctor Strange (thus the two not being in Infinity War Part 1)
Captain Marvel - Guardians of the Galaxy (see above)
Doctor Strange - Nobody
Guardians of the Galaxy 2 - Nobody
Spider-Man - Iron Man, maybe Vision and War Machine but most likely just him
Thor: Ragnarok - Hulk
Black Panther - could see this essentially being Infinity War Part 0; wouldn't be surprised to see Cap, Falcon, Scarlet Witch, and Hawkeye in it
Ant-Man and the Wasp - Doctor Strange (thus the two not being in Infinity War Part 1)
Captain Marvel - Guardians of the Galaxy (see above)
I don't think so. Nobody actually says Bucky isn't responsible except for when he tells Cap in his apartment in Bucharest.
Sure, but while actually trying to take Bucky down for 90% of the film nobody really says "he didn't do it" right?
One of the things I really hated about his secret family and his secret farmstead is that it precluded him from partnering up with a certain superior Hawkeye and fighting off Russian mobsters who were trying to encroach on his neighborhood.
Escape Goat
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Friday is the new Jarvis.
MCU can replace with Kate Bishop and won't miss a beat.
Maybe my memory is failing me but I don't remember Jarvis ever being snarky like Friday.
Dark Ninja
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Hopefully. Hawkeye and War-Machine both need to die, recast or removed from the MCU, they add nothing.
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