I really liked Sharon in WS and even more here. The kiss was forced and too soon after Peggy (making it weirder than the fact that it's weird regardless) but I loved her sneaking around casually helping out. She genuinely looks a lot like Hayley Atwell too which is perfect casting.
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Captain America: Civil War SPOILER Thread - #TeamThanos
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Oh yea forgot about that line. Yea he did.
Yeezus H. Christ
Banned
The triple kick was GOAT.
That's my favorite line from him.
One of the super high Black Panther multikicks made me stand up and whoop in the theater
He just doesn't care at the end.
And can you blame him? That's his Mum... and some guy named Hoqard. But fuck Howard, what did he ever give the world?
- Secret Soldier Serum 2.0
- Shield
- Propriety repulsive technology
- Flying cars
- Stark Expo
- An ungrateful shit named Tony.
- Blueprints for clean energy that his fucktard of a son let fall into Alien hands.
Captan America's shield
But aside from all that, fuck Howard. Because he didn't coddle his man child son.
Joel Was Right
If you smell burning, it's probably the generators acting up. Report it anyway.
As far as I'm concerned, every post here should be about T'Challa. Amazing introduction.
Great T'Challa introduction.
Mediocre Black Panther introduction.
How is BP going to be the dude who is 5 steps behind everyone else. How does that work, Marvel?
The Cretan
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To be fair, T' Challa didn't give a fuck about the others, he only cared about Bucky and he couldn't have a plan about him because he didn't even know he existed.
The other characteristics of Black Panther, the suit, the fighting skills, the "I'm serious and I will kick your ass" attitude were present in the movie.
Yeezus H. Christ
Banned
Black Panther had a great arc. Whew, the post-credits scene had people salivating in the theater.
What were the reactions to the Dr. Strange trailer in your screenings, guys?
What were the reactions to the Dr. Strange trailer in your screenings, guys?
Black Panther wasn't 5 steps behind at all. He had a few encounters head on with these people and was waiting for the perfect time to strike. He was there every time.
While everyone was emotional and fighting BP ultimately brought the villain to justice rather than get a meaningless revenge.
While everyone was emotional and fighting BP ultimately brought the villain to justice rather than get a meaningless revenge.
Nemesis121
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No reaction, Suicide Squad got reactions..
Not paying attention at first, then Marvel logo starts. They also going woah during the whole inception thing.
Discotheque
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it looked cooler in the theaters with the 3d glasses but man that trailer just feels like bootleg inception. They better bust out the big guns for the next trailer.
Audiences here didn't really give a shit about any of the trailers except suicide squad (as soon as joker appeared i heard some loud chatter). But as for this movie itself spiderman and ant man got the biggest crowd pops during their moments.
Audiences here didn't really give a shit about any of the trailers except suicide squad (as soon as joker appeared i heard some loud chatter). But as for this movie itself spiderman and ant man got the biggest crowd pops during their moments.
WaterAstro
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Suicide Squad trailer wasn't even played for me lol.
One guy in front of me was super excited for Dr. Strange, though my city doesn't make much noise in theatres.
BladeoftheImmortal
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Aunt may is too fucking hot.
Joker and Loki are outright iconic at this point. The films would suck, but you could make solo films for both and they'd kill at the box office.
Discotheque
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i think you're being too fair on loki. he's not nearly up to his level.
it also doesn't help that he belongs to the worst series of the mcu. joker has only been with 100 proof movies. Batman and TDK were huge for their time. Avengers was huge but does anybody really care about thor 1 and 2 outside of the diehard mcu fans.
it also doesn't help that he belongs to the worst series of the mcu. joker has only been with 100 proof movies. Batman and TDK were huge for their time. Avengers was huge but does anybody really care about thor 1 and 2 outside of the diehard mcu fans.
Now thats just creepyAnd completely biologically unrelated to Peter.
Discotheque
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And completely biologically unrelated to Peter.
y'all saw how she looked at parker when she was icing his bruise.
homecoming gonna be one of the most controversial blockbusters of all time.
BladeoftheImmortal
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When did that happen?
After the credits finished.
I don't recall if she was icing the bruise, though.
BladeoftheImmortal
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Ah, I'm in China. they don't show those here. Only the one in Wakanda.
formasymphonic
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Watched it again yesterday. Really funny to read through the comments and see the same arguments circling through on both sides.
Random things I picked up on the second watch:
- When trying to console Wanda after Lagos - Cap himself states that hearing anything to do with Bucky messes with his judgement.
- Feels like they completely gave up on Wanda having an accent.
- The text message Steve gets about Peggy's death is actually from a landline number (+44 0207 9 something) and not a mobile lol.
- In the scene with the two pens and Tony trying to convince Steve, Steve is like "Is Pepper here?" (Why would Pepper be there? What reason would she have to be in a joint task force investigation building after a bombing at the UN instead of being in America running Stark Enterprises? She isn't an Avenger, so there isn't really a reason for her to be at the Accords? Was it just a low blow?). Cap's "Wouldn't wanna break up the set" when he puts the pen down was definitely a low blow though.
- Tony is the one who actually mentions petitioning to get Wanda reinstated, (it's already on his mind to make it happen).
- Holland really was great casting for Parker, kudos to whoever made that decision. Double kudos for whoever decided on Tomei for Aunt Bae.
- Clint just rolls up into the mansion and doesn't say anything to Wanda except "Cap needs some help, let's go". Clint spent enough time in SHIELD to surely understand the reasons/politics around why Wanda is there. Wanda herself was also reluctant to leave. Then he guilt trips her to get her to go.
- The Quinn jet Steve/Bucky take is actually the one everyone else came in (I had previously wondered, why didn't they destroy/emp the jet if it was there the whole time. They don't because it was theirs and how they were going to transport everyone back)
- Visions forehead beam seems to have some kind of electro magnetic/emp attributes based on him using it on Clint's arrow trap and WM's arc reactor - it doesn't blow up, it literally gets hit then goes dead (considering WM asked him to disable Falcon's thruster, this also makes sense).
- BW was there when Tony was trying to convince Ross to let them go after Cap instead of the special forces. ("What happens when the shooting starts? Do you kill Steve Rogers?")
She was there when Ross puts Tony on a deadline and knows it's hard on him, she is there when Tony tries to convince Steve at the Airport and she even says to Steve "you know what's going to happen, do you really want to punch your way out of this one?"
Yet she is still shocked that Tony would be pissed that she let Steve/Bucky go and throws the ego comment at him, knowing how much he was trying to prevent that situation from escalating the way it did.
- It is T'Challa that reports BW's actions to Ross, not Tony. Considering he was closest to slowing down Steve/Bucky until BW tasered him repeatedly, it makes sense it would be him explaining what happened.
- Still love Zemo's dialogue with T'Challa at the end. His "it took me two days to find the bodies [...] I saw my father still holding my wife and son in his arms. And the Avengers... They went home" perfectly sums him and the questions about collateral damage up perfectly. For him, it was a terrible tragedy, but for the Avengers it was just another day.
- Russo's "less is more" quips > Whedon's quip Olympics
Random things I picked up on the second watch:
- When trying to console Wanda after Lagos - Cap himself states that hearing anything to do with Bucky messes with his judgement.
- Feels like they completely gave up on Wanda having an accent.
- The text message Steve gets about Peggy's death is actually from a landline number (+44 0207 9 something) and not a mobile lol.
- In the scene with the two pens and Tony trying to convince Steve, Steve is like "Is Pepper here?" (Why would Pepper be there? What reason would she have to be in a joint task force investigation building after a bombing at the UN instead of being in America running Stark Enterprises? She isn't an Avenger, so there isn't really a reason for her to be at the Accords? Was it just a low blow?). Cap's "Wouldn't wanna break up the set" when he puts the pen down was definitely a low blow though.
- Tony is the one who actually mentions petitioning to get Wanda reinstated, (it's already on his mind to make it happen).
- Holland really was great casting for Parker, kudos to whoever made that decision. Double kudos for whoever decided on Tomei for Aunt Bae.
- Clint just rolls up into the mansion and doesn't say anything to Wanda except "Cap needs some help, let's go". Clint spent enough time in SHIELD to surely understand the reasons/politics around why Wanda is there. Wanda herself was also reluctant to leave. Then he guilt trips her to get her to go.
- The Quinn jet Steve/Bucky take is actually the one everyone else came in (I had previously wondered, why didn't they destroy/emp the jet if it was there the whole time. They don't because it was theirs and how they were going to transport everyone back)
- Visions forehead beam seems to have some kind of electro magnetic/emp attributes based on him using it on Clint's arrow trap and WM's arc reactor - it doesn't blow up, it literally gets hit then goes dead (considering WM asked him to disable Falcon's thruster, this also makes sense).
- BW was there when Tony was trying to convince Ross to let them go after Cap instead of the special forces. ("What happens when the shooting starts? Do you kill Steve Rogers?")
She was there when Ross puts Tony on a deadline and knows it's hard on him, she is there when Tony tries to convince Steve at the Airport and she even says to Steve "you know what's going to happen, do you really want to punch your way out of this one?"
Yet she is still shocked that Tony would be pissed that she let Steve/Bucky go and throws the ego comment at him, knowing how much he was trying to prevent that situation from escalating the way it did.
- It is T'Challa that reports BW's actions to Ross, not Tony. Considering he was closest to slowing down Steve/Bucky until BW tasered him repeatedly, it makes sense it would be him explaining what happened.
- Still love Zemo's dialogue with T'Challa at the end. His "it took me two days to find the bodies [...] I saw my father still holding my wife and son in his arms. And the Avengers... They went home" perfectly sums him and the questions about collateral damage up perfectly. For him, it was a terrible tragedy, but for the Avengers it was just another day.
- Russo's "less is more" quips > Whedon's quip Olympics
WaterAstro
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I'm pretty sure he was asking if Pepper and him were doing fine, and the pens had nothing to do with it.
The pens are significant to the treaty signing of WW2, nothing else, really, than saying he's not accepting the gift.
Did you pick up on what the Accords actually meant for the team?
I will probably see it again myself but i don't remember it being clearly defined by what it meant for the team other than some form of accountability. I have heard some say it would turn them into government property aka special forces for the UN but i don't think i picked up on that
formasymphonic
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I know what the pens symbolise. Tony even twice refers to trying to extend an olive branch.
As he says that, Cap tries to change the subject with a completely unrelated "Is Pepper here? I didn't see her."
It had nothing to so with anything else relative to that moment and Tony only elaborates because Steve mentions her. Pepper had nothing to do with Bucky/The Accords or anything else that was happening then which is why I noticed it felt so out of place. for Steve to bring it up.
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It isn't explicitly stated beyond them reporting to a UN panel who will decide if Avenger-level involvement is necessary as opposed their current "unlimited power and no supervision" status.
I suppose that the best example would be that special forces are sent after Bucky, Cap and third party intervene and in the end its a combination of of the police / WM that are the ones that actually surround and detain Bucky/Cap/Panther. Steve's "What if there is somewhere we don't think we should go / need to go and they don't let us" obviously applies but then you are going down the roads of who watches the watchmen and those arguments get cyclical real fast.
BronsonLee
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He's clearly deflecting. He also probably hasn't seen Pepper for a while, so he's asking
This and wasnt he also asking soemthing in the line of Tony looking not good?
BronsonLee
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Yeah Tony's totally gonna have a heart attack or something in Homecoming
Methinks that Chinese doctor missed some shrapnel, TIME TO PISS OFF CHINA
I think Steve asking where the woman who grounds Tony is makes sense. Like if she's there and convinced it's a good thing, I can see Cap seriously mulling signing.
After all, when Pepper isn't there Tony makes death bots.
Course, my theory is Pepper dumped Tony before AOU.
Makes sense, Tony looked really sad when he talked with Thor about their girlfriends
It seemed like the weirdest dick measuring ever, and given we won't be seeing Jane again...
formasymphonic
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I've seen enough of your previous comments to know how you feel about Tony so i think you are reaching too deep in the meta, but again:
Pepper is not an Avenger, there is no reason for her to be anywhere near the Accords, the UN meeting or the joint task force operations building. No reason at all to reference her (aside from an attempt at deflecting Tony's olive branch attempt as others sate above).
[Although on a meta, as per Iron Man 3 - didn't Pepper actually want less of Tony as Iron Man and wouldn't the Accords do that?]
BronsonLee
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They were both just trying to mask their sadness!
No wonder Thor pulled his hammer out
It's canon that Pepper grounds Tony. When she isn't there, he's a mad scientist who builds shit without thinking it through. So if I'm Tony's friend, I'd hope he talked it through with her rather than him just deciding to do it to "protect Earth."
Strange got a good reaction. Rogue One got an even bigger one.
Please give me Feiges phone number, I need to know how much Ive to pay him that this wont happen...Well he'll probably hook up with Aunt May in Homecoming
Gozer the Gozerian
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Since he and Pepper broke up could Tony start dating Happy now?
Vulcano's assistant
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Just re-watched Iron man 1 and 2 because of this film, and I must say. The suit on those films would have broken Bucky's bones immediately. They have so much more weight and strength they feel industrial. Stark is punching through concrete and steel regularly.
While you are at it, get him to prevent Vision-Wanda from happening.
Nah, I am fine with that.
formasymphonic
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I still think you are reaching. Considering everything else the Russos got right with the film, if this is what they were going for, Steve's line would have been as easy as
"What does Pepper think about this". all of the same dialogue could have followed and the meaning you are alluding to would have been there as well.
I'm gonna go with it being an attempted deflection of Tony's Olive branch as others have said.
Well he'll probably hook up with Aunt May in Homecoming
I'm sorry. I had to do it.
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