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Captain America: Civil War SPOILER Thread - #TeamThanos

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As self-appointed Spoiler Yoda of NeoGAF, I feel like I have to say: It's one thing to read plot synopses and even scripts, digesting and metabolizing story beats before you watch a movie. I get that, I understand that, I've done that. Knowing what's going to happen doesn't diminish the power of it actually happening, for me. The "how" of things is only barely more important than the "why," and both are way more important than the "what." That's just how that hierarchy of storytelling flows, for me.

But entire, fully edited, fully VFX-finished centerpiece sequences of a film? A 10-minute, pivotal chunk of the movie, entirely meant to showcase not just the superheroes powers, but the filmmaker's? Just pulled right out of the film, dropped online in cam version?

Yeah, I'm not doing that. That's too much. That's the what, the how, and the why, all at once, without the rest of the movie to go along with it. Knowing they fight, knowing some of the moves they pull off, reading the words on the paper? That's never going to compare to seeing and hearing it happen. But this is some shit I'm not touching until after I've seen the film for the first time.
Agreed. I've seen the movie and I'm not watching that thing. I'll just wait until next Thursday and watch it proper..
 
Tony wasn't shooting to kill until the very very end when everything was already damaged, and he was fighting out of grief and rage

I remember him blasting Bucking at point blank to the body which he shouldn't survive, so I do think Tony was holding back, even while raging.
 
Oh wah wah, Tony gives Peter the suit wah wah wah, jesus christ.

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I would like a short film about Iron Man's extinguisher robot.

DUM-E and U? And yes, those are the actual names for em.

It'd be funny to watch a one-shot flash back of those, with the young Tony that they used for this film. Be pretty trippy.

I thought it was weird that spidey's web shooters house an infinity stone

It was a bit egregious imo when he looked inside that stone and saw Madame Web looking at Tobey and Andrew Garfield Spidey too, as well as Donald Glover as Miles and Emma Stone as Spider-Gwen. Like, was it too late to cut that out after people reacted to the way BvS teased Justice League?
 
Just saw the movie. Best marvel, best spidey!

Missed like 30% of the Spidey intro scene cus I had to go to the bathroom. I was holding it for so long and the scene before had them talking the whole time so I was like. Ok I can go now, I won´t miss a thing probably.

Then as I go out I turn around and see "Queens." And I continue out and start thinking to myself. Queens... what´s in Queens? And then it struck me... -_-

When I came back Tony was sitting in his room and showing him pictures of Peter doing his spidey things. I hope I didn´t miss too much :/
 
Just saw the movie. Best marvel, best spidey!

Missed like 30% of the Spidey intro scene cus I had to go to the bathroom. I was holding it for so long and the scene before had them talking the whole time so I was like. Ok I can go now, I won´t miss a thing probably.

Then as I go out I turn around and see "Queens." And I continue out and start thinking to myself. Queens... what´s in Queens? And then it struck me... -_-

When I came back Tony was sitting in his room and showing him pictures of Peter doing his spidey things. I hope I didn´t miss too much :/

you missed practically my favorite scene in the movie
 
Just seen the movie in nurmberg Germany. Its pretty much an avengers 2.5 movie. Very action pack and I love that they don't show everything in the movie trailer.
 
INT: THE PARKER'S APARTMENT- DAY

TONY knocks at the door and patiently waits. He fussily picks at a piece of paint that has flaked off the doorjamb onto his 80,000-dollar suit. He sucks his teeth in disgust as he flicks it off his finger, follows it down to his feet, where two rats are copulating furiously. He squints as if he can't believe it. The bull rat looks over its shoulder and CHEEPS loudly at him without missing a thrust. TONY recoils. JUST THAT MOMENT, the door OPENS. An older, yet amazingly attractive woman pokes her head out. The rats scurry away like a double-decker bus.

AUNT MAY
Can I help you?

TONY
I'm uh.. Huh. I'm here to see Peter Parker?

MAY opens the door fully and leans on the doorjamb. More paint flakes off, she doesn't even notice as it tumbles into her tousled hair. She is wearing yoga pants and a tank-top with the belly cut out of it. A faint sheen of sweat has dampened it.

AUNT MAY
Oh God, what did he do this time?

A faint sheen of sweat is starting to break out on TONY's forehead now.

TONY
Oh, nothing too out-of-bounds, your normal youthful indiscretion-kinda-stuff, it shouldn't be too much of a problem are you his... sister? You're related to him, right, you're not, like... he didn't actually pull--

MAY
(laughing)
Jesus, no. I'm his Aunt. His mother was my sister. I'm taking care of him. Or (waves at the wreck of an apartment behind her) you know, the closest approximation of it.

TONY
You seem to be doing alright for yourself.

MAY
You think so?

TONY
Very toned.

MAY
Peter! Peter, someone from your school is here to see you! Get out here!

TONY
I'm not actually, uh--

TONY trails off mid-sentence as Peter enters into view. He is wearing nothing but an oversized diaper, It is sagging and soggy. Snot flows freely from his upper lip, and his hair looks like someone tricked Fizzgig into sticking his dick in an electric socket. He rips a fart with something extra on it. It sounds like someone shuffling a deck of cards in the mud. He is swinging a dead cat over his head by the tail.

PETER
Whee! Helicopter!

TONY
You're Peter Parker?

PETER
I'm the biggest idiot in the whole wide world!

MAY
(lights cigarette, exhales)
That's Peter!

PETER
Pancakes!

MAY
He likes Pancakes.

TONY
I make amazing Pancakes.

MAY
Do you now. Well why don't you come in my kitchen.

TONY sweats at MAY. MAY sweats back at TONY.

PETER
A spider bit me!

MAY and TONY
That's nice.
 
INT: THE PARKER'S APARTMENT- DAY

TONY knocks at the door and patiently waits. He fussily picks at a piece of paint that has flaked off the doorjamb onto his 80,000-dollar suit. He sucks his teeth in disgust as he flicks it off his finger, follows it down to his feet, where two rats are copulating furiously. He squints as if he can't believe it. The bull rat looks over its shoulder and CHEEPS loudly at him without missing a thrust. TONY recoils. JUST THAT MOMENT, the door OPENS. An older, yet amazingly attractive woman pokes her head out. The rats scurry away like a double-decker bus.

AUNT MAY
Can I help you?

TONY
I'm uh.. Huh. I'm here to see Peter Parker?

MAY opens the door fully and leans on the doorjamb. More paint flakes off, she doesn't even notice as it tumbles into her tousled hair. She is wearing yoga pants and a tank-top with the belly cut out of it. A faint sheen of sweat has dampened it.

AUNT MAY
Oh God, what did he do this time?

A faint sheen of sweat is starting to break out on TONY's forehead now.

TONY
Oh, nothing too out-of-bounds, your normal youthful indiscretion-kinda-stuff, it shouldn't be too much of a problem are you his... sister? You're related to him, right, you're not, like... he didn't actually pull--

MAY
(laughing)
Jesus, no. I'm his Aunt. His mother was my sister. I'm taking care of him. Or (waves at the wreck of an apartment behind her) you know, the closest approximation of it.

TONY
You seem to be doing alright for yourself.

MAY
You think so?

TONY
Very toned.

MAY
Peter! Peter, someone from your school is here to see you! Get out here!

TONY
I'm not actually, uh--

TONY trails off mid-sentence as Peter enters into view. He is wearing nothing but an oversized diaper, It is sagging and soggy. Snot flows freely from his upper lip, and his hair looks like someone tricked Fizzgig into sticking his dick in an electric socket. He rips a fart with something extra on it. It sounds like someone shuffling a deck of cards in the mud. He is swinging a dead cat over his head by the tail.

PETER
Whee! Helicopter!

TONY
You're Peter Parker?

PETER
I'm the biggest idiot in the whole wide world!

MAY
(lights cigarette, exhales)
That's Peter!

PETER
Pancakes!

MAY
He likes Pancakes.
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INT: THE PARKER'S APARTMENT- DAY

TONY knocks at the door and patiently waits. He fussily picks at a piece of paint that has flaked off the doorjamb onto his 80,000-dollar suit. He sucks his teeth in disgust as he flicks it off his finger, follows it down to his feet, where two rats are copulating furiously. He squints as if he can't believe it. The bull rat looks over its shoulder and CHEEPS loudly at him without missing a thrust. TONY recoils. JUST THAT MOMENT, the door OPENS. An older, yet amazingly attractive woman pokes her head out. The rats scurry away like a double-decker bus.

AUNT MAY
Can I help you?

TONY
I'm uh.. Huh. I'm here to see Peter Parker?

MAY opens the door fully and leans on the doorjamb. More paint flakes off, she doesn't even notice as it tumbles into her tousled hair. She is wearing yoga pants and a tank-top with the belly cut out of it. A faint sheen of sweat has dampened it.

AUNT MAY
Oh God, what did he do this time?

A faint sheen of sweat is starting to break out on TONY's forehead now.

TONY
Oh, nothing too out-of-bounds, your normal youthful indiscretion-kinda-stuff, it shouldn't be too much of a problem are you his... sister? You're related to him, right, you're not, like... he didn't actually pull--

MAY
(laughing)
Jesus, no. I'm his Aunt. His mother was my sister. I'm taking care of him. Or (waves at the wreck of an apartment behind her) you know, the closest approximation of it.

TONY
You seem to be doing alright for yourself.

MAY
You think so?

TONY
Very toned.

MAY
Peter! Peter, someone from your school is here to see you! Get out here!

TONY
I'm not actually, uh--

TONY trails off mid-sentence as Peter enters into view. He is wearing nothing but an oversized diaper, It is sagging and soggy. Snot flows freely from his upper lip, and his hair looks like someone tricked Fizzgig into sticking his dick in an electric socket. He rips a fart with something extra on it. It sounds like someone shuffling a deck of cards in the mud. He is swinging a dead cat over his head by the tail.

PETER
Whee! Helicopter!

TONY
You're Peter Parker?

PETER
I'm the biggest idiot in the whole wide world!

MAY
(lights cigarette, exhales)
That's Peter!

PETER
Pancakes!

MAY
He likes Pancakes.

Slow day at the office, Bobby?

i lol'd
 
INT: THE PARKER'S APARTMENT- DAY

TONY knocks at the door and patiently waits. He fussily picks at a piece of paint that has flaked off the doorjamb onto his 80,000-dollar suit. He sucks his teeth in disgust as he flicks it off his finger, follows it down to his feet, where two rats are copulating furiously. He squints as if he can't believe it. The bull rat looks over its shoulder and CHEEPS loudly at him without missing a thrust. TONY recoils. JUST THAT MOMENT, the door OPENS. An older, yet amazingly attractive woman pokes her head out. The rats scurry away like a double-decker bus.

AUNT MAY
Can I help you?

TONY
I'm uh.. Huh. I'm here to see Peter Parker?

MAY opens the door fully and leans on the doorjamb. More paint flakes off, she doesn't even notice as it tumbles into her tousled hair. She is wearing yoga pants and a tank-top with the belly cut out of it. A faint sheen of sweat has dampened it.

AUNT MAY
Oh God, what did he do this time?

A faint sheen of sweat is starting to break out on TONY's forehead now.

TONY
Oh, nothing too out-of-bounds, your normal youthful indiscretion-kinda-stuff, it shouldn't be too much of a problem are you his... sister? You're related to him, right, you're not, like... he didn't actually pull--

MAY
(laughing)
Jesus, no. I'm his Aunt. His mother was my sister. I'm taking care of him. Or (waves at the wreck of an apartment behind her) you know, the closest approximation of it.

TONY
You seem to be doing alright for yourself.

MAY
You think so?

TONY
Very toned.

MAY
Peter! Peter, someone from your school is here to see you! Get out here!

TONY
I'm not actually, uh--

TONY trails off mid-sentence as Peter enters into view. He is wearing nothing but an oversized diaper, It is sagging and soggy. Snot flows freely from his upper lip, and his hair looks like someone tricked Fizzgig into sticking his dick in an electric socket. He rips a fart with something extra on it. It sounds like someone shuffling a deck of cards in the mud. He is swinging a dead cat over his head by the tail.

PETER
Whee! Helicopter!

TONY
You're Peter Parker?

PETER
I'm the biggest idiot in the whole wide world!

MAY
(lights cigarette, exhales)
That's Peter!

PETER
Pancakes!

MAY
He likes Pancakes.

TONY
I make amazing Pancakes.

MAY
Do you now. Well why don't you come in my kitchen.

TONY sweats at MAY. MAY sweats back at TONY.

PETER
A spider bit me!

MAY and TONY
That's nice.

This reminds me of that time some guy posted Hanar/Elcor smut fanfiction in a Mass Effect thread.
 
INT: THE PARKER'S APARTMENT- DAY

TONY knocks at the door and patiently waits. He fussily picks at a piece of paint that has flaked off the doorjamb onto his 80,000-dollar suit. He sucks his teeth in disgust as he flicks it off his finger, follows it down to his feet, where two rats are copulating furiously. He squints as if he can't believe it. The bull rat looks over its shoulder and CHEEPS loudly at him without missing a thrust. TONY recoils. JUST THAT MOMENT, the door OPENS. An older, yet amazingly attractive woman pokes her head out. The rats scurry away like a double-decker bus.

AUNT MAY
Can I help you?

TONY
I'm uh.. Huh. I'm here to see Peter Parker?

MAY opens the door fully and leans on the doorjamb. More paint flakes off, she doesn't even notice as it tumbles into her tousled hair. She is wearing yoga pants and a tank-top with the belly cut out of it. A faint sheen of sweat has dampened it.

AUNT MAY
Oh God, what did he do this time?

A faint sheen of sweat is starting to break out on TONY's forehead now.

TONY
Oh, nothing too out-of-bounds, your normal youthful indiscretion-kinda-stuff, it shouldn't be too much of a problem are you his... sister? You're related to him, right, you're not, like... he didn't actually pull--

MAY
(laughing)
Jesus, no. I'm his Aunt. His mother was my sister. I'm taking care of him. Or (waves at the wreck of an apartment behind her) you know, the closest approximation of it.

TONY
You seem to be doing alright for yourself.

MAY
You think so?

TONY
Very toned.

MAY
Peter! Peter, someone from your school is here to see you! Get out here!

TONY
I'm not actually, uh--

TONY trails off mid-sentence as Peter enters into view. He is wearing nothing but an oversized diaper, It is sagging and soggy. Snot flows freely from his upper lip, and his hair looks like someone tricked Fizzgig into sticking his dick in an electric socket. He rips a fart with something extra on it. It sounds like someone shuffling a deck of cards in the mud. He is swinging a dead cat over his head by the tail.

PETER
Whee! Helicopter!

TONY
You're Peter Parker?

PETER
I'm the biggest idiot in the whole wide world!

MAY
(lights cigarette, exhales)
That's Peter!

PETER
Pancakes!

MAY
He likes Pancakes.

TONY
I make amazing Pancakes.

MAY
Do you now. Well why don't you come in my kitchen.

TONY sweats at MAY. MAY sweats back at TONY.

PETER
A spider bit me!

MAY and TONY
That's nice.

So that´s what happened?
 
Some more thoughts of more spoilery kind for this thread:

+The action was on overdrive throughout the movie. Some pretty insane choreographies & stunts. One "smaller" action scene that I was pretty blown away by was the one with Cap & Winter Soldier in the stairway doing all kinds of crazy stuff
+I liked Zemo as the villain. He's not the usual huge threat that single-handedly beats up the good guys for a while or someone who controls massive armies or has powers beyond human comprehension. His motivations were clichéd, but I liked his machinations & the endgame that his doings lead to. He's just a (somewhat) normal guy who wants to bring these muthafugazz down.
+this movie was really good at juggling these different characters (though not quite perfect)
+Black Panter was BAWDAAAZZZZZ. I think I read someone saying that they didn't think Black Panther had much of a role in this movie, which is incomprehensible to me. He's, like, only a little below Cap, Iron Man & Winter Soldier in importance.
+although spoiled by trailers, War Machine's drop from the sky was still pretty brutal. Seriously, I don't think that scene should've been shown in trailers.
+Spider-Man finally felt like Spider-Man as far as the writing goes. Not quite sure if this was the absolute best action that has ever been gotten out of Spider-Man in live action movies, but it was still a really good intro for the character in the MCU proper and it was fun seeing him battle people like Cap right away.
+the ending was a bit abrupt, but all in all it packed plenty of emotional punch thanks to us having gotten to know these characters, seen these characters being friends & interacting in several movies. I wonder how much this will affect future movies, considering the whole registration of superheroes thing wasn't really resolved in this movie. Will most of this be somewhat ignored in all the (Earth-based) MCU movies due to the situations that unfold in them not warranting bringing it up too much, only for it to be brought up again maybe in Infinity War.

-didn't quite warm up to Tom Holland's Peter Parker yet, still think Andrew Garfield is the best overall Peter Parker + Spider-Man as an actor, though Civil War's Spindelmann had far superior writing & was thus better at capturing the character in that way. Garfield + Civil War level Spider-Man writing would have been the dream combo few years ago.
-as fun as he was, Ant-man was a bit pointless. The other characters had at least some reason to be there, but I felt he was there just to be there, unless I just missed some piece of dialogue that explained why he'd be there
-the Black Panther chase scene was a bit underwhelming? The characters running so fast looked a bit off VFX-wise.
-Hawkeye was maybe a bit boring from a combat POV in this movie, apart from his coop attack with Ant-Man. I can forgive it because he did at least serve some function for the story/had a reason to be there, as sudden as his inclusion in the film was.
 
Saw it today. I liked it and I feel that it did what it set out to do as well as it possibly could have, but I think that I would rate Winter Soldier higher simply because it gives it characters a lot more breathing room. Still it was a very good movie, and it might get even better on a re-watch.

Also the movie makes it seems like European capitals in different countries are neighboring cities, as well as America just being a short ride in a van away. Not really a complaint though but still. Also why was a German swat team operating on Romanian soil?

Spider-Man and Black Panther were cool although the novelty of finally seeing a pitch perfect Spidey was dulled a bit by having seen him done so many times before. Ant-Man was a total boss though, a girl in my theater yelled loudly when he went Giant-Man on their asses. Scarlet witch is clearly the mvp though and the most powerful one, Vision on the other hand is probably the most reckless one. "Oh yeah we wrecked some shit in the airport but mostly cars and stuff, let me cut down this fucking tower, that is not at all irresponsible and doesn't go against our ideology."

Biggest nit-pick however is that when they present all the different arguments for and against the accords no one brings up the fact that except for Sokovia non of that shit is their fault and all of it would have caused a lot of more damage than it did if the Avengers hadn't intervened.
 
Biggest nit-pick however is that when they present all the different arguments for and against the accords no one brings up the fact that except for Sokovia non of that shit is their fault and all of it would have caused a lot of more damage than it did if the Avengers hadn't intervened.
They do explain it with 1) people being scared and just wanting to point fingers & find someone to blame (no matter if it doesn't hold up to closer scrutiny) and 2) them arguing that these large scale threats started happening only after superheroes started appearing in the world, so some feel like these superheroes kind of draw all of this crazy shit upon the world. Besides, Ultron is Tony's fault and Loki can be argued to be the responsibility of Thor & Asgardians, so they aren't completely wrong.
 
Did it irk anyone else that Tony flew off the handle at the end? Does he not know that
Bucky was hypnotized (which is really dumb tbh...)
figured he'd be a bit more understanding and not just
MUH FATHER!!!
 
Did it irk anyone else that Tony flew off the handle at the end? Does he not know that
Bucky was hypnotized (which is really dumb tbh...)
figured he'd be a bit more interested and not just
MUH FATHER!!!

He went from 'My parents died in a car crash' to 'My parents were murdered' to 'My parents were murdered by the person to my immediate right' to 'My parents were murdered by the person to my immediate right and my friend didn't tell me'
 
INT: THE PARKER'S APARTMENT- DAY

TONY knocks at the door and patiently waits. He fussily picks at a piece of paint that has flaked off the doorjamb onto his 80,000-dollar suit. He sucks his teeth in disgust as he flicks it off his finger, follows it down to his feet, where two rats are copulating furiously. He squints as if he can't believe it. The bull rat looks over its shoulder and CHEEPS loudly at him without missing a thrust. TONY recoils. JUST THAT MOMENT, the door OPENS. An older, yet amazingly attractive woman pokes her head out. The rats scurry away like a double-decker bus.

AUNT MAY
Can I help you?

TONY
I'm uh.. Huh. I'm here to see Peter Parker?

MAY opens the door fully and leans on the doorjamb. More paint flakes off, she doesn't even notice as it tumbles into her tousled hair. She is wearing yoga pants and a tank-top with the belly cut out of it. A faint sheen of sweat has dampened it.

AUNT MAY
Oh God, what did he do this time?

A faint sheen of sweat is starting to break out on TONY's forehead now.

TONY
Oh, nothing too out-of-bounds, your normal youthful indiscretion-kinda-stuff, it shouldn't be too much of a problem are you his... sister? You're related to him, right, you're not, like... he didn't actually pull--

MAY
(laughing)
Jesus, no. I'm his Aunt. His mother was my sister. I'm taking care of him. Or (waves at the wreck of an apartment behind her) you know, the closest approximation of it.

TONY
You seem to be doing alright for yourself.

MAY
You think so?

TONY
Very toned.

MAY
Peter! Peter, someone from your school is here to see you! Get out here!

TONY
I'm not actually, uh--

TONY trails off mid-sentence as Peter enters into view. He is wearing nothing but an oversized diaper, It is sagging and soggy. Snot flows freely from his upper lip, and his hair looks like someone tricked Fizzgig into sticking his dick in an electric socket. He rips a fart with something extra on it. It sounds like someone shuffling a deck of cards in the mud. He is swinging a dead cat over his head by the tail.

PETER
Whee! Helicopter!

TONY
You're Peter Parker?

PETER
I'm the biggest idiot in the whole wide world!

MAY
(lights cigarette, exhales)
That's Peter!

PETER
Pancakes!

MAY
He likes Pancakes.

TONY
I make amazing Pancakes.

MAY
Do you now. Well why don't you come in my kitchen.

TONY sweats at MAY. MAY sweats back at TONY.

PETER
A spider bit me!

MAY and TONY
That's nice.
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INT: THE PARKER'S APARTMENT- DAY

TONY knocks at the door and patiently waits. He fussily picks at a piece of paint that has flaked off the doorjamb onto his 80,000-dollar suit. He sucks his teeth in disgust as he flicks it off his finger, follows it down to his feet, where two rats are copulating furiously. He squints as if he can't believe it. The bull rat looks over its shoulder and CHEEPS loudly at him without missing a thrust. TONY recoils. JUST THAT MOMENT, the door OPENS. An older, yet amazingly attractive woman pokes her head out. The rats scurry away like a double-decker bus.

AUNT MAY
Can I help you?

TONY
I'm uh.. Huh. I'm here to see Peter Parker?

MAY opens the door fully and leans on the doorjamb. More paint flakes off, she doesn't even notice as it tumbles into her tousled hair. She is wearing yoga pants and a tank-top with the belly cut out of it. A faint sheen of sweat has dampened it.

AUNT MAY
Oh God, what did he do this time?

A faint sheen of sweat is starting to break out on TONY's forehead now.

TONY
Oh, nothing too out-of-bounds, your normal youthful indiscretion-kinda-stuff, it shouldn't be too much of a problem are you his... sister? You're related to him, right, you're not, like... he didn't actually pull--

MAY
(laughing)
Jesus, no. I'm his Aunt. His mother was my sister. I'm taking care of him. Or (waves at the wreck of an apartment behind her) you know, the closest approximation of it.

TONY
You seem to be doing alright for yourself.

MAY
You think so?

TONY
Very toned.

MAY
Peter! Peter, someone from your school is here to see you! Get out here!

TONY
I'm not actually, uh--

TONY trails off mid-sentence as Peter enters into view. He is wearing nothing but an oversized diaper, It is sagging and soggy. Snot flows freely from his upper lip, and his hair looks like someone tricked Fizzgig into sticking his dick in an electric socket. He rips a fart with something extra on it. It sounds like someone shuffling a deck of cards in the mud. He is swinging a dead cat over his head by the tail.

PETER
Whee! Helicopter!

TONY
You're Peter Parker?

PETER
I'm the biggest idiot in the whole wide world!

MAY
(lights cigarette, exhales)
That's Peter!

PETER
Pancakes!

MAY
He likes Pancakes.

TONY
I make amazing Pancakes.

MAY
Do you now. Well why don't you come in my kitchen.

TONY sweats at MAY. MAY sweats back at TONY.

PETER
A spider bit me!

MAY and TONY
That's nice.

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