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Captain America: Civil War SPOILER Thread - #TeamThanos

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There's like two minor nitpicks I have with the movie. Tony's suits keep getting nerfed to suit (sorry) the plot and they can't decide how the Caps shield should behave. It took Thor to crush his armor in The Avengers but now everyone's doing it.

It's not invincible. Iron man 1 established that real quick when he went to Gulmira.

They can deflect gun fire of different calibers. But a God with super human strength can do shit to it. And having tons of cars that weigh a shit ton can do damage, and those cars fell from a really good height.

It's not rocket science.

Man, the scene of Bucky taking out Tony's parents REALLY got to me, even knowing what was coming.

It's not funny anymore.
 
Is Less Than Zero-era Stark less or more impressive than Wall Street-era Pym?

because I saw a still of de-aged Stark and it wasn't as convincing as Pym was, for me.

Keep in mind: I'm old - I saw those both those movies when they first came out, so it's not a matter of being unfamiliar with how they actually looked back then.
 
Man, the scene of Bucky taking out Tony's parents REALLY got to me, even knowing what was coming.
Yup. I read already team Stark. I knew Bucky killed his dad. I knew Steve kept it quiet. Watching that shit? Well..I expect my diehard #TeamCap daughter to flip sides right then and there. Shit is pretty intense.

That choke out..FUCK THE WORLD!
 
Is Less Than Zero-era Stark less or more impressive than Wall Street-era Pym?

because I saw a still of de-aged Stark and it wasn't as convincing as Pym was, for me.

Keep in mind: I'm old - I saw those both those movies when they first came out, so it's not a matter of being unfamiliar with how they actually looked back then.
Ive never seen Robert Downey Jr before he was in Iron Man... But it tool a couple of moments before I realized who he actually was and when he came near the camera, I was surprised.

But I cant compare, sorry.
 
That de-aging tech is just prepping for a time when the actors have to move on and they use body doubles, CG, and VOs.

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Freeman said, your Plan failed

Zemo said, did it?

His plan was to destroy the Avengers and he kinda did

most of them are now criminals after all

Zemo was really understated but I liked him a lot more than most Marvel villains. And he did, after all, do more damage to Avengers themselves than Loki, Ultron and the rest combined.
 
Is Less Than Zero-era Stark less or more impressive than Wall Street-era Pym?

because I saw a still of de-aged Stark and it wasn't as convincing as Pym was, for me.

Keep in mind: I'm old - I saw those both those movies when they first came out, so it's not a matter of being unfamiliar with how they actually looked back then.
Shit. Just seeing this question. I think the honest answer is Pym. Not for lack of trying. More like there was a bit more of Tony being "still" as opposed to Hank "moving." Add to that they clearly went way younger with Tony. It's not terrible..just a hint less impressive.

As a dude who grew up with RDJ, yeah. I think folks like us will just see it stand out more. Although, as a Jewel and Romancing fan, Douglas still looked weird on first viewing..
 
They had more achievable goals and thought them through. And Pierce just played the very long game.

I liked Zemo saying that he realized there was no point in fighting the Avengers since more powerful things than him had failed. His plot was a lot less convoluted than most Marvel villain plots too, and had more to do with people than with super science gadgets. That combined with his scene with Black Panther really cemented Zemo as a top tier MCU villain. On the other hand, the competition in that league is not very stiff at all...
 
As a dude who grew up with RDJ, yeah. I think folks like us will just see it stand out more. Although, as a Jewel and Romancing fan, Douglas still looked weird on first viewing..

See, what freaked me out at first was that I didn't even question it. I just accepted it for a few seconds before it cut to Peggy's bad old-age makeup and that's when the switch flipped and I was like "Wait, holy shit how the fuck are they doing that to Douglas."

That's what discombobulated me so much. I didn't even think to question what I was looking at until after a few seconds, and even then it wasn't the effects themselves tipping me off. It was the cut to Atwell.
 
I liked Zemo saying that he realized there was no point in fighting the Avengers since more powerful things than him had failed. His plot was a lot less convoluted than most Marvel villain plots too, and had more to do with people than with super science gadgets. That combined with his scene with Black Panther really cemented Zemo as a top tier MCU villain. On the other hand, the competition in that league is not very stiff at all...

Now we need him to return for Avengers: Under Siege.
 
I liked Zemo saying that he realized there was no point in fighting the Avengers since more powerful things than him had failed. His plot was a lot less convoluted than most Marvel villain plots too, and had more to do with people than with super science gadgets. That combined with his scene with Black Panther really cemented Zemo as a top tier MCU villain. On the other hand, the competition in that league is not very stiff at all...

Yeah, the scene was great.

Also Zemo was a great Villain for the movie, cause he is one of the consequences of the casualties caused by the Avengers. It was good they didn't chose a crazy Metahuman and kept it at a very personal level. At the end I didn't had the feeling that Cap or Stark was right.
 
See, what freaked me out at first was that I didn't even question it. I just accepted it for a few seconds before it cut to Peggy's bad old-age makeup and that's when the switch flipped and I was like "Wait, holy shit how the fuck are they doing that to Douglas."

That's what discombobulated me so much. I didn't even think to question what I was looking at until after a few seconds, and even then it wasn't the effects themselves tipping me off. It was the cut to Atwell.

Sure. I could see that. Overall, it's done quite well. I think, again, it'll be an easier sell to younger viewers. We've seen what this dude looked like at that age..our eyes are biased.
 
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Ive never seen Robert Downey Jr before he was in Iron Man... But it tool a couple of moments before I realized who he actually was and when he came near the camera, I was surprised.

But I cant compare, sorry.

He imitated a dog in a Disney movie at one point.
 
Yeah, the scene was great.

Also Zemo was a great Villain for the movie, cause he is one of the consequences of the casualties caused by the Avengers. It was good they didn't chose a crazy Metahuman and kept it at a very personal level. At the end I didn't had the feeling that Cap or Stark was right.

Honestly I thought Zemo was good, but a little pointless. This film essentially set itself up as a comentary on the ethical implications of Superheroism and Vigilantism. It really didn't need a Villan when stark was the primary antagonist.
 
What bugs me a bit is how Spidey and Ant-man were recruited for one specific thing each (Spidey to take Cap's shield and Scott waits in the shield somehow?) and after that they're muscles. Tony is a bit fucked up if he recruited a high school kid in a battle against Winter Soldier.
 
They're both recruited to be surprise X-Factors. They both succeed.

Lang fucks up everything though because he wanted to pull his dick out with the Giant Man thing
 
They're both recruited to be surprise X-Factors. They both succeed.

Lang fucks up everything though because he wanted to pull his dick out with the Giant Man thing

Yeah they both made the fight and EVERYONE's reaction to them (varying degrees of "who the fuck is this guy!?") was the best.
 
Honestly I thought Zemo was good, but a little pointless. This film essentially set itself up as a comentary on the ethical implications of Superheroism and Vigilantism. It really didn't need a Villan when stark was the primary antagonist.

But Tony wasn't an antagonist and he doesn't work as an antagonist. He represents the flip side of a political argument. If you make Tony into an antagonist in the movie that's currently presented you're either making the suggestion that the mere concept of super powered surveillance is an inherently flawed view point (something that Man of Steel notably misfired with tremendously near the ending and which draws a host of uncomfortable implications in a real world), or you're going to end up turning him into a cartoonishly unsympathizable person just so it's impossible to agree with him (which is what the comic did).

If Tony was an antagonist in this movie that would be missing the point entirely.
 
my biggest issue with the film was Zemo's ultimate reason for setting all of this up was just because he was another person who lost something in Sokovia. Thought that reveal would have a better payoff
 
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