Tony was clearly not very okay with it because unlike Cap he mostly tried to get everyone on the same page. It was his ego that undid any semblance of sympathetic admission with his co-mates since he faces his fuck up head-on despite not admitting towards his mistake, mostly because he's a little too proud of admitting his self-centered guilt. That said he backed the accords not only because he believed it was the right thing to do but because he worried that without them the team would fall apart. Ross is the one who wanted them jailed but Tony was the one who wanted them to either stay out of it or just sign the accords before Ross started forcing his hand in issuing the hard ultimatums. That's why Cap acknowledges that Tony probably cares more about the Avengers than he does, but that he'd be there for them if they ever need him.
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Tony was clearly not very okay with it because unlike Cap he mostly tried to get everyone on the same page. It was his ego that undid any semblance of sympathetic admission with his co-mates since he faces his fuck up head-on despite not admitting towards his mistake, mostly because he's a little too proud of admitting his self-centered guilt. That said he backed the accords not only because he believed it was the right thing to do but because he worried that without them the team would fall apart. Ross is the one who wanted them jailed but Tony was the one who wanted them to either stay out of it or just sign the accords before Ross started forcing his hand in issuing the hard ultimatums. That's why Cap acknowledges that Tony probably cares more about the Avengers than he does, but that he'd be there for them if they ever need him.
FlutterPuffs
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Of course.
#teamunitednations
I really enjoyed what I watched though, loved Spidey, and the fights are stellar. The Russo brothers trusting us to remember about Tony's dead parents after only showing it once was great too, rather than repeating that damned message three times like in a certain superhero movie that came out last month.
But I think Winter Soldier was a superior film, although only by a little.
Of course they would, what I'm saying is that their detainment wasn't entirely inhumane, despite that we were supposed to empathise with Scarlet Witch being put in a straight jacket after the wreck she just caused.
If the hard ultimatum is "do what I say, or be jailed" I'm not sure how you back that as a reasonable answer for anyone in this situation. Tony only agree to this because he feels so guilty over his own actions. I like that the movie is ambiguous enough to discuss these things though. Not claiming to be 100% right, but I'm still Team Cap (HAHA).
I loved CW, but I think TWS was probably a better "Cap" movie. So much to like about CW though that I ain't even complaining.
#TeamCap or #TeamIronMan, I think we all won with this.
FlutterPuffs
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Yep! It was a great popcorn movie, no question about it.
Boss Doggie
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WS is superior because it's a bit more focused and didn't have a pointless argument that, while much better than the source material, still feels contrived and forced. Miscommunication is still one of the awkward, lankier types of conflict, and believe me I sit through many of that shit with many animated films and Japanese superheroes.
Not saying this movie is bad though. Like I said, if this is a "taste" of what's to come to an Avengers film, then I can't wait. This movie managed to be a better Avengers film than the actual Avengers films.
FlutterPuffs
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ArtHands
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Cap helping Bucky, a wanted terrorist, to escape, isn't an action that tells people he should be trusted either.
twozerotwo
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Guys
Guys
Guys
guys
I downloaded it and watched it.
I hate myself
Guys
Guys
guys
I downloaded it and watched it.
I hate myself
it was amazing
Why would you admit to this?
ViewtifulJC
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not like this 202
twozerotwo
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Come what may.......I shall rest in hype.....and soiled pants.....
George Oscar Bluth II
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And now you must die
ArtHands
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Its just a week. Why not wait it out?
The full movie is leaked already???
twozerotwo
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No, I clicked on a certain link that was posted earlier.
It got me so riled up I just bought my ticket for my third screening next week.
It got me so riled up I just bought my ticket for my third screening next week.
thehypocrite
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This is an entertaining movie full of fan service and quips. Didn't offended me but the movie tells you a lot of things which are supposed to have importance but it never shows these things for the most part, thus the characters motivations are paper thing, the editing (that opening scene & the Bucky escape) and the scene transitions are manic (BERLIN, QUEENS, VIENA, BUCAREST,SIBERIA, ETC), the 3D is non-existant and it's only there to charge more, some of the jokes are even more flat that some of the characters. Some of the actions lack weight, as if the characters were feathers falling down buildings.
The conflict itself it's stupid cause the winter soldier lacks teleportation and he couldn't have blown the building and be at Bucharest at the same time. Also, for some reason the Berlin special forces are the ones operating in Bucharest trying to capture them.
6.5/10
The conflict itself it's stupid cause the winter soldier lacks teleportation and he couldn't have blown the building and be at Bucharest at the same time. Also, for some reason the Berlin special forces are the ones operating in Bucharest trying to capture them.
6.5/10
You knew it was coming when people were going on about the airport scene earlier today.
Just saw it here in Australia.
Didn't think it was all that great. I prefer the first and second Captain America films to this one. Though it was fun to see Antman in his second movie in this universe as well as Spiderman.
Surprised there was no Nick Fury though. Not even a mention. Where was he? He made appearances in all the other Captain America and main Avengers (which this almost is apart from Thor and Hulk) films.
Oh and disappointed Spiderman isn't like Toby McGuire Spiderman (not too sure about Andrew Garfield version as haven't really seen it), where his webbing comes from within him. Here its just a contraption on his wrist.
The CGI could be better when Tony sticks his head out of his ironman suit too. So many times you can tell that he isn't in it.
Didn't think it was all that great. I prefer the first and second Captain America films to this one. Though it was fun to see Antman in his second movie in this universe as well as Spiderman.
Surprised there was no Nick Fury though. Not even a mention. Where was he? He made appearances in all the other Captain America and main Avengers (which this almost is apart from Thor and Hulk) films.
Oh and disappointed Spiderman isn't like Toby McGuire Spiderman (not too sure about Andrew Garfield version as haven't really seen it), where his webbing comes from within him. Here its just a contraption on his wrist.
The CGI could be better when Tony sticks his head out of his ironman suit too. So many times you can tell that he isn't in it.
FlutterPuffs
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He wasn't, it was Baron Zemo who blew up the building.
Also I don't think it was the Berlin special forces, wasn't it a SHIELD/UN based special ops unit that was ordered to kill him on the spot?
broncobuster
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Everybody but Rhodey got a cool moment in. Stuck out 'cause he's the one who suffers the most in the end.
Hmm I think they thought the stun baton and shooting the truck with all his arsenal while Giant-Man tried to swing it was his cool moments.
But yeah paralyzation is quite a deep subject to handle in last 5 minutes of the film. Then again in that universe it probably isn't a problem in a long run and he'll be out and about with minimal help in a short time.
There were some legit amazing scenes in this movie -- this is definitely one of them.
Holy shit, what a ride. I know it's a bit passe to praise this movie and shit on BvS but jesus this was just executed SO MUCH BETTER.
FUCK.
I don't ever see a 3rd act surpassing this movie. It has to be all downhill from here.
He was definitely on a lower tier from everybody else but he had a few cool moments. I wanted a bit more out of Vision, but it makes sense he would be nowhere near his best against allies.
paragonpro
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Its okay...so did i...twice. Spiderman was fucking amazing. And the giant man fight was so cool. I had figured that widow would be the one to switch sides so not much of a spoiler for me
PhantomZone
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I thought it was average. The First Avenger is still my favorite Captain America movie by a long long long way. I can see what they were trying to do, but it didn't quite hit the mark for me. Marvel movies are excellent at building up the film in the first and second act, but end up screwing it up with a weak third act..... and Civil War suffers from the same thing in my opinion.
Biggest positive from the movie - HOT AUNT MAY <3
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I cheered (and got dirty looks for it) when Vision hit him :-D. I can't stand Rhodey at all.
Biggest positive from the movie - HOT AUNT MAY <3
.I cheered (and got dirty looks for it) when Vision hit him :-D. I can't stand Rhodey at all.
Badpsychometry
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Where can I see it
paragonpro
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It wasnt the whole movie, just the airport scene.
Badpsychometry
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Is it on YouTube??
Yeah I thought the movie did a pretty good job at showing a semi-retired Tony Stark for one thing
There wouldn't be a Captain America: Civil War movie without Zemo. -_-; His machinations is what pushes the situation over a line that it can't go back from. Avengers appearing when a huge threat like Loki & his alien army or Ultron shows up to destroy the world had some unfortunate casualties, but ultimately most people felt like the Avengers were there to save the world & did their best to save as many people as possible. The incident at the beginning of Civil War showed them getting a bit sloppy, which lead to innocent people dying and pushed the anti-superheroes thing over the edge.
I didn't cheer, but I was hoping he died from it. Not really a fan of Don Cheadle as Rhodes. Keep thinking he's an imposter and Terrence Howard should be there instead.
Eh? Civil War has one of the strongest third acts in any MCU or, hell, any comic book movie. Certainly a million times better than the horrible third act (and, well, first & second acts) of First Avenger (excluding Cap's "death")
And dear god no, the first Captain America is pure shit compared to this & Winter Soldier. The action is fucking horrible, it's all levels of boring throughout and Red Skull was a shitty villain.
ArtHands
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I suggest you to wait for the movie.
PhantomZone
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Boss Doggie
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but this movie didn't have the quipping Avenger films have
LucidMomentum
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Yes.
SporeCrawler
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A few points from my side
Action was amazing. Especially the main fight. Antman snd Spiderman were awesome although they were really both tacked on storywise.
Im fine with team cap being imprisoned after the big fight but what happened to team iron man sans war machine? Vision, black widow and spiderman just dissapeared.
Does not seem like anybody got permanent damage at the end. Warmachine was severely but he will probably manage. I was scared of the Captain America will die rumors.
Villain was good this time. Brühl did a great job at portraying a guy that was completely manipulative, super smart and yet his motivation were at the end fully understandable and tragic (i think it would have been better of they had just allowed him to die in the end). Also the character was uncharacteristically human for a marvel movie, just a normal human. Probably the best marvel villain who did the most damage to the team.
Action was amazing. Especially the main fight. Antman snd Spiderman were awesome although they were really both tacked on storywise.
Im fine with team cap being imprisoned after the big fight but what happened to team iron man sans war machine? Vision, black widow and spiderman just dissapeared.
Does not seem like anybody got permanent damage at the end. Warmachine was severely but he will probably manage. I was scared of the Captain America will die rumors.
Villain was good this time. Brühl did a great job at portraying a guy that was completely manipulative, super smart and yet his motivation were at the end fully understandable and tragic (i think it would have been better of they had just allowed him to die in the end). Also the character was uncharacteristically human for a marvel movie, just a normal human. Probably the best marvel villain who did the most damage to the team.
Vision was sitting at the new Avengers compound where Rhodes and Stark were training being mopey
Spidey was at the after credits scene
Widow was probably imprisoned at the Raft
I was expecting him to die because of the comic book it was based on. It didn't happen, that's why I was a bit disappointed.
Yeah, I know the infinity war is coming and we can't have Cap already dead.
Remember when people complained that Age of Ultron was like only a few days?
Well... this civil war was kinda far from a civil war...
And also... the whole super hero legislation plot got forgotten pretty quick... and it should have been the focus of the whole thing...
And also... the first hour sucks
Aside from that, it was great. From the middle on the movie is fantastic. Zemo was great and im glad he survived so maybe he can show up again in the future. MCU needs some good villains
Well... this civil war was kinda far from a civil war...
And also... the whole super hero legislation plot got forgotten pretty quick... and it should have been the focus of the whole thing...
And also... the first hour sucks
Aside from that, it was great. From the middle on the movie is fantastic. Zemo was great and im glad he survived so maybe he can show up again in the future. MCU needs some good villains
Boss Doggie
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Weird, I don't remember seeing that. I only saw Bucky being frozen.
To be slightly fair to Snyder, he didn't have quite the supporting hero cast as this to use (no guarantees that would have helped anyway). You basically put that Cap/Ironman were both bores..Who are basically bat/supes
Biggest-Geek-Ever
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T'Challa wasn't going to kill Zemo after he called him beautiful, either.
There's a scene with "Spiderman will return" end title card where Aunt May I gives him an ice pack to hold against his bruised eye while he talks about the guys he fought Steve and his huge friend and how he got a few pretty good licks in as she hoped.
Then he's left alone and he has some high tech Spiderman Stark Watch from Tony
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One after the graphical credits and one after the regular ones
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