BossDarkseid
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Is there just one post credits scene?
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Captain America: Civil War SPOILER Thread - #TeamThanos
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The last one is at the very end with spiderman
BossDarkseid
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Isn't this the one of the main reason so many people are loving Tom Holland's Spidey?
Ya tho many others may prefer the sharper self-assured Garfield type.
Oh my god just got back from the movie, this shit was amazing.
Only problems I have with it: Weird CG sometimes, bad villain (as most Marvel movies), some ultra cliche dialogues
Loved it: Almost all of it, but especially the cover reference on the final battle, small reference to Goliath (RIP), all the seconds of both Spider man and Black Panther, and the amazing airport fight scene.
This movie is lit boys
Only problems I have with it: Weird CG sometimes, bad villain (as most Marvel movies), some ultra cliche dialogues
Loved it: Almost all of it, but especially the cover reference on the final battle, small reference to Goliath (RIP), all the seconds of both Spider man and Black Panther, and the amazing airport fight scene.
This movie is lit boys
Future Foundation
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Downloaded the Airport scene, watched the Airport scene. Fucking loved every second of it. I need it in IMAX. NEED.
I learned from people quoting Wozzly posts in the Arrow threads.
I learned from people quoting Wozzly posts in the Arrow threads.
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Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I think they're talking about watching the full airport fight scene online somewhere, not the full movie .. the full movie isn't even out yet in cinemas, very highly doubt it would have leaked anywhere without it being big public news.
Great movie, fantastic airport scene.
But goddamnit, some of those characters need to be retired.
retire warmachine (he's already set up for a 'getting too old for this shit' exit), retire hawkeye (which they sorta did in Ultron, but then they gave him far too much spotlight in civil war - why?!)
the airport scene was fantastic. Insect based marvel heroes (Ant-Man, Spider-Man) were the best.
The whole 'Captman v IronMan' conflict was believable, the heroes' motivations were ... non-arbitrary. No side seemed to be chosen just for 'balance's sake. Except for maybe Hawkeye being on #TeamAntman
Also, IronMan-body-with-RDJ-head CGI was jarringly bad ...
But goddamnit, some of those characters need to be retired.
retire warmachine (he's already set up for a 'getting too old for this shit' exit), retire hawkeye (which they sorta did in Ultron, but then they gave him far too much spotlight in civil war - why?!)
the airport scene was fantastic. Insect based marvel heroes (Ant-Man, Spider-Man) were the best.
The whole 'Captman v IronMan' conflict was believable, the heroes' motivations were ... non-arbitrary. No side seemed to be chosen just for 'balance's sake. Except for maybe Hawkeye being on #TeamAntman
Also, IronMan-body-with-RDJ-head CGI was jarringly bad ...
The movie is out since yesterday
The full movie is out in cinemas, maybe not the US yet but much of the rest of the world has it now or is about to. I saw it today in Australia.
For sure. I would have thought they'd have a handle on how to to things like that now, but it was just bad. I'm surprised those at Marvel just accept it, and think people will just not notice it.
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Hell didn't it come out in US earlier via limited screening?
Oh that explains it, I missed that.
Heh, Spider-Watch. Is that some Supaidaman reference?
Oh that explains it, I missed that.
Heh, Spider-Watch. Is that some Supaidaman reference?
Well I'm sorry but any Spidey that can't sell the line "Wallopin websnappers!" is a Spidey I'm just not interested in!
Spider is not an insect
Spider is not an insect
hah. fuck. right. ... "superheroes based on 6+ legged tiny critters".
God, that "really old movie" line at the end of the airport scene. Fantastic.
yes. 100% accurate
...Man, this movie sounds more awesome than I imagined!!!
ShinoguTakeruKoeru
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It's missing a few details and getting others mixed up, but I'll leave the corrections for when you do end up watching it.
same here. My girlfriend was a bit underwhelmed saying "oh well, it was the villain-who-sows-conflict-amongst-our-heroes-to-make-them-fight-one-anther trope".
To which i replied "you prefer the 'giant ass monster who wrecks manhattan' " - which she dislikes even more.
Avengers 1 had Loki bringing in "brute force", Avengers 2 had Ultron bringing "numbers", Winter Soldier had the "conspiracy from within". Civil War had Zemo using his wits to pit our heroes against one another.
I wouldn't have minded for Zemo's motivation to be unrelated to
the Sokovia incident.
the mission report of 1991 would have the footage of the winter soldier killing Stark's parents
video evidence?
It's nice that they're, so far, properly switching it up a lot. Going "bigger and better" with every movie, in a Dragonball Z kind of way, is something i don't really see working.
Don' agree. He's pretty melow. A good bad guy is actually threatening. Here he is just the catalyst forcing Cap en Iron Man apart (with a very complicated plan that would fall apart if you think about it). The real conflict is between the teams though, so it doesn't really hurt the movie.
May 6 for me sadly.
ShinoguTakeruKoeru
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As an alternate angle as to how the events of Age of Ultron could affect the people in the world of the MCU, I thought it really worked. There are the governments that want to reign in the Avengers, the normal people who want the Avengers to take responsibility and act righteously, and then there are the people who get badly messed up by it and want the Avengers to pay with their lives.
Tony Stark gets the grieving mother, Steve Rogers gets the you-killed-my-family man who's going to incubate in that holding cell into the supervillain mastermind that people expect Zemo to be.
I was so, so, SO unbelievably pleased when it was revealed that Zemo gave no shits about more Winter Soldiers and wanted Stark to wreck the shit out of Cap and Bucky. When I've been saying that Stark goes places in this movie we've never seen before, I meant that unchecked fury on his face throughout the third act.
"It won't bring them back."
"I don't care. He killed my mother."
I was like "Oh fuck, he's out for blood."
Same. Well, 7th for my group, and it's technically a rewatch for me but I REALLY WANNA REWATCH! I feel your pain.
My girlfriend is kinda allergic to Stark - she hates his RDJ macho kind of quipping. She loves Spiderman's though.
She loved him in this movie, because throughout the movie, Stark / Iron Man felt very genuine. Troubled. Angry.
Not in a "drunk and depressed" Iron Man 2 kind of way, luckily.
I'm guessing he wanted to get to Tony, so in his research he got a lead on his parents' murder.
He wasn't even slightly interested in the Winter Soldier program for itself.
Comic Zemo makes plans like that all the time
Yep I feel the same, although I didn't hate Stark in prior films, but he and pretty much everyone in this movie felt much more like character actual persons that are different from each other instead of being blended it in.
I'm so annoyed that
Not a great ending.
nobody major died. They would have pulled it off so awesomely if there were at least some major stakes for the Civil War. I was so ready for Tony or Cap to bite it in a 'shock' ending, but no. Everyone got out of prison and most of them were totally fine. Wanted some sort of closure or a raging general Ross but that didn't happen.
Not a great ending.
ShinoguTakeruKoeru
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I generally like Iron Man, but before Civil War I was so freakin' sick of Iron Man being the MCU's Golden Boy, always getting the good hits in and constantly CONSTANTLY having something to say and only half the time it was actually hilarious. And meanwhile I'm pretty sure Cap spent half the time in his Age of Ultron fight scenes taking punches from Ultron or Stark and only talking the talk. And like I brought up, technically in AoU Stark gets the "Avengers, Assemble" line with his "Avengers, Time to work for a living."
The Tony Stark in this movie is a Tony Stark where everything from Iron Man 1 to now is coming back to bite him hard. Ditch your suits in IM3 and wear em again in AoU? Pepper's done with your shit. Hell I just saw IM1 again last night and I totally forgot that part where he saves the F22 pilot by manually tripping the parachute, and he couldn't catch Rhodey this time. That is FUCKED. UP.
We still get Stark being Tony Snark, but it's balanced out in this film by him being in a very difficult spot where his ingenuity alone isn't the easy button answer for the problem that he and his friends are facing. The world's come a long way from when all it took was a cave and a box of scraps.
Ross certainly isn't happy about Stark putting him on hold when he's trying to yank his Iron Man chain to fix the hole in the Raft.
Bad Pun intended.
I seriously thought that Stark was going to at least pummel Rogers until he blacked out, then proceed to kill Bucky. When he blew Bucky's arm apart with his Chest RT (WHICH I TOTALLY FORGOT HE COULD DO UNTIL I REMEMBERED IRON MAN 1, AGAIN, BRINGING IT ALL BACK), I was seriously freakin' out, and when Rogers lifted up that shield right after batting Stark's mask off, I actually audibly gasped. I thought Rogers was going to slice his frickin' head off.
That's what the film did for me. Emotional stakes, and it worked. On the flipside, we certainly did get major deaths: We have the on-screen deaths of Howard and Maria Stark! Ruthless, efficient, cold-blooded, and it galvanized Tony Stark in a way that even Pepper's seeming death didn't do.
i agree with the sentiment that some characters need to be retired soon, to make room for the new ones. This movie had more individual super heroes in it than Ultron.
As i mentioned before. Kill off war machine. Nobody cares about war machine.
I have a feeling that either Cap or Stark will be killed off by the end of Infinity War pt. 1
This! Maaan... I want to see it again right now.
I mean I sort of think War Machine is cooler than Iron Man. He has a way better suit. Sick of both of them tho, I'm way more into the new kids. Half of this movie was introducing new characters just like Age of Ultron, and my god would a death have been fitting. So yeah, kill off Rhodey, get some more Black Panther in.
All of them seem invincible, nobody fights to kill (except for Cap in the end which still doesn't kill Tony even though they totally set up the scene to end that way with Tony being full of guilt single and betrayed by Bucky) and as usual the stakes are low as fuck.
The Civil War should have been a big catalyst but it wasn't really. Too many characters for the time it has, makes me worried for Infinity War, boy do they HAVE to cull like all of the old Avengers there.
Thanos will have a lot of fun.
of course they don't. They're buddies. They just want to get to the
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Super Heroes don't fight to kill unless they're fighting someone who is about to kill innocents. All Cap wants to do is to pursue a suspected villain, #TeamStark just wants to stop and subdue them.
But that's the problem. It's a Civil War. One side is supposed to see the other as criminals. The most high end prison in the MCU apparently is absolute trash, so maybe the Punisher method is alright. One dude is a fucking colossus and another one is a living nuke, let one character get stuck in the crossfire. The comics did it well.
they do. But contrary to your belief, you don't kill criminals. You try to lock em up. Which is what spiderman is most prominently trying to do - he even reads Falcon his Miranda rights.
The irony of this is, at the end of the day, those 8 Winter Soldiers were never a threat. They set up a super finale, but it never comes to pass because in the grand scheme of things, Zemo was as against Hydra as anyone else.
If Cap and Bucky submitted themselves, there would have been no need for a worried contingency. This actually draws back to what Vision said earlier about causality. The conflict exists in a way because the heroes exist.
You oviously cannot, as the ending shows. I believe general Ross would hulk the fuck out about that.
I agree with you, of course they won't kill anyone but there's still some excitement lost in the plot for me when there's never any risk. Daredevil for this reason is more gripping imo.
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