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Captain America: Civil War SPOILER Thread - #TeamThanos

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I forgot, but was Red Skull exposed to the stone? I know he was using it as a power source but I don't think he outright held it.

He did held it. It was the reason he got teleported somewhere.
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Really sad that Zemo didn't had any REAL action scenes ... they even mentioned that he CAN have some action !

But dat bullet block was awesome
 
Awesome movie but I'm still not sure where to rank it among the others.

I enjoyed cap and Bucky against Ironman more than the airport scene. Don't get me wrong the airport scene was awesome but Ironman going after Bucky like a mad man once he saw what Bucky did to his mom and dad had the tension I was looking for. In the airport scenes though you knew no one really wanted to kill each other (except of course BP) and I think that's why it wasn't as intense as the last arc.

Everyone was pretty great but BP stole the show for me even more so than Spider-Man. That aunt May though 😍😍😍😍
 
Airport scene was action as fan service. It was all about having fun for 17 minutes with these characters on screen because why not?
Last fight was action as a vehicle to show character's feelings.

The airport scene is possibly one of the coolest moments in cinema, but I get the feeling that once the hype fades and people think about the movie, it will be the last fight they will remember the most.
 
I always remember it being more subtle but yeah there's no way he isn't chilling on Thanos's asteroid waiting to be used as Thanos's "herald".

BTW we never saw Ultron die on screen either, and Vision said himself he has no idea how it works.

Sure we did. They erased him from the internet because that's totally a thing you can do, then killed each of the copies.
The last one was beamed by Vision after amazing speech. Still, they could use the anihilation:conquest angle that he somehow sent the sinal into space. He is data, easiest character to ressurect.
 
I gotta say, Marvel is seriously wasting their Villans. So far Thanos is the only real villan they have put much effort into setting up and keeping around. Red Skull, Zemo, Mandarin, and Von Strucker could have seriously had some great stories but were just wasted. The only reason I can think of is that they dont plan on continuing the series much after Infinity War.
 
I gotta say, Marvel is seriously wasting their Villans. So far Thanos is the only real villan they have put much effort into setting up and keeping around. Red Skull, Zemo, Mandarin, and Von Strucker could have seriously had some great stories but were just wasted. The only reason I can think of is that they dont plan on continuing the series much after Infinity War.

Cap? Its done. So is Ironman, for now at least. Did you think there would be a Cap 4, 5, 6? They will move on to other properties, milk those, move on etc. And I mean that in a good way
 
Cap? Its done. So is Ironman, for now at least. Did you think there would be a Cap 4, 5, 6? They will move on to other properties, milk those, move on etc. And I mean that in a good way

I seriously doubt Civil War is the last Cap movie. Especially after how much money they are making. Maybe not for awhile but there will be more.
 
I seriously doubt Civil War is the last Cap movie. Especially after how much money they are making. Maybe not for awhile but there will be more.

I think Avengers is the one they can (and probably will) pumping out sequels to. I dont see another Cap movie in this iteration of the MCU. But hey maybe in wrong :)
 
I think Avengers is the one they can (and probably will) pumping out sequels to. I dont see another Cap movie in this iteration of the MCU. But hey maybe in wrong :)

They're not done with Bucky and that means they're not done with Cap.
 
I don't know if this is the last Cap movie or not, but it's the certainly the last one we're going to be seeing for a while. I'm getting the impression that the members of the Avengers are always going to be in flux and so it's quite possible that the movie line-up will reflect that.
It's not beyond the realms of possibility to see Cap only show up in the same way as Iron Man going forward. No stand alones, but will be involved in the MCU in a big way.
 
They're not done with Bucky and that means they're not done with Cap.

Exactly, They can always do a "New Avengers" movie focusing on Caps team since these movie's rosters are getting too big to refer to them as a Cap or Iron Man film unless they really do focus just on Cap and Bucky.
 
Saw it last night.

GOD DAMN Chris Evan's arms in that helicopter scene ! Made Thor look like a chump.
 
I don't know if this is the last Cap movie or not, but it's the certainly the last one we're going to be seeing for a while. I'm getting the impression that the members of the Avengers are always going to be in flux and so it's quite possible that the movie line-up will reflect that.
It's not beyond the realms of possibility to see Cap only show up in the same way as Iron Man going forward. No stand alones, but will be involved in the MCU in a big way.

This. And Buck being on ice is a neat little way of having him skip Infinity War I/II so I actually think they ARE done with Buck lol
 
So something I thought of: have they EVER used the names Black Widow, Hawkeye, or Scarlet Witch in any of these movies? Just curious
For the first two, multiple times. His wife jokingly calls him Hawkeye in A2, and Zemo just straight up calls her Black Widow when referring to the incident at the end of Winter Soldier.

As for SW, the only time I can recall is Tony referring to her as "that little witch" during the Hulkbuster fight.
 
Saw it last night.

GOD DAMN Chris Evan's arms in that helicopter scene ! Made Thor look like a chump.

I fucking lost it when he changed from over to undergrip to flex more :D

Edit: something I realized this morning; the World Council deemed the Avengers Initiative dangerous, Ultron pretty much considered the Avengers a threat to world peace right off the bat, even Vision reasoned that since Tony Stark became Iron Man the number of world threatening events has risen significantly. Maybe the Avengers aren't the force for good they claim to be after all.....
 
So does this mean the end of the next Thor movie (I'm assuming credits scene) will have that cool moment from the comics where Thor absolutely thrashes Iron Man and nags him about fracturing things?
 
I fucking lost it when he changed from over to undergrip to flex more :D

Edit: something I realized this morning; the World Council deemed the Avengers Initiative dangerous, Ultron pretty much considered the Avengers a threat to world peace right off the bat, even Vision reasoned that since Tony Stark became Iron Man the number of world threatening events has risen significantly. Maybe the Avengers aren't the force for good they claim to be after all.....

*insert Jim Gordon escalation quote*
 
Edit: something I realized this morning; the World Council deemed the Avengers Initiative dangerous, Ultron pretty much considered the Avengers a threat to world peace right off the bat, even Vision reasoned that since Tony Stark became Iron Man the number of world threatening events has risen significantly. Maybe the Avengers aren't the force for good they claim to be after all.....
You'd think Vision would not be applying some fallacy though.

It just means that certain threats became more visible.
 
You'd think Vision would not be applying some fallacy though.

It just means that certain threats became more visible.

Iron Monger, Whiplash, Hammer-drones, Loki, The Destroyer, the Chitauri invasion, AIM and the EXTREMIS soldiers, Ultron, Malekith, Zemo, they can all the attributed to actions or inactions by one or more members of the Avengers.
 
Iron Monger, Whiplash, Hammer-drones, Loki, The Destroyer, the Chitauri invasion, AIM and the EXTREMIS soldiers, Ultron, Malekith, Zemo, they can all the attributed to actions or inactions by one or more members of the Avengers.

most of them were already happening and they just happen to execute when a hero was already available, I'd argue the casualties would be more severe without the hero that was supposedly the "cause" of all this
 
Iron Monger, Whiplash, Hammer-drones, Loki, The Destroyer, the Chitauri invasion, AIM and the EXTREMIS soldiers, Ultron, Malekith, Zemo, they can all the attributed to actions or inactions by one or more members of the Avengers.

All Thor related things are odin's fault actually including loki related stuff.
 
most of them were already happening and they just happen to execute when a hero was already available, I'd argue the casualties would be more severe without the hero that was supposedly the "cause" of all this

They're building to The Avengers saving Earth and Earth being the first Avengers World.

And calling it, Cap's giving the "no, you move" speech to Thanos.
 
most of them were already happening and they just happen to execute when a hero was already available, I'd argue the casualties would be more severe without the hero that was supposedly the "cause" of all this

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Iron Monger was only possible due to Tony, Whiplash was only able to build his armor due to Hammer's desire to one-up Stark, same goes for the drones. Extremis and AIM were created because of Stark's arrogance and standing up Killian. Loki and Malekith could've been prevented if Thor wasn't such an arrogant twat, the Chitauri invasion was only possible due to the Arc-reactor and Thor's lack of action against his evil brother. Etc etc.


The only threat the MCU ever faced out of control of the Avengers were Red Skull and the HYDRA infiltration of SHIELD.

All Thor related things are odin's fault actually including loki related stuff.

Thor should've bashed Loki's skull in.


Edit; unrelated, but it's also a good idea to point out how lucky Tony was that Scott Lang is a nice guy. He could've straight up killed Tony by just going back to normal size while inside the Iron Man armor.
 
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Iron Monger was only possible due to Tony, Whiplash was only able to build his armor due to Hammer's desire to one-up Stark, same goes for the drones. Extremis and AIM were created because of Stark's arrogance and standing up Killian. Loki and Malekith could've been prevented if Thor wasn't such an arrogant twat, the Chitauri invasion was only possible due to the Arc-reactor and Thor's lack of action against his evil brother. Etc etc.


The only threat the MCU ever faced out of control of the Avengers were Red Skull and the HYDRA infiltration of SHIELD.

Iron Monger was ready to kill Tony and take over his company, Whiplash was already biding his time on his hatred for Tony. You already said Extremis and AIM... all of which were problems before Tony became Iron Man.

Thor's shit was more on Odin's side really, and he was trying to deal with Loki.

So what I said is true - it wasn't because they became heroes, it's because they were pretty much age old problems that had been festering and would have resulted in much worse deals. The only real villain born from an Avenger was Abomination, and guess what, it was Ross's fault!

Edit; unrelated, but it's also a good idea to point out how lucky Tony was that Scott Lang is a nice guy. He could've straight up killed Tony by just going back to normal size while inside the Iron Man armor.
I have a feeling it's less than that and more of Scott not really knowing how to do that, considering he had the same chance of doing that when fighting Yellow Jacket.
 
I thought Black Panther was equal parts awesome and disappointing.

He does a couple of badass things, but then he gets arrested by the police, takes 4 Widow Bites to the chest without varying his tactic, fights like he just got his nails done and is generally ineffectual. He was just a minor nuisance when he's supposed to be "Stop, wait, look. It's Black Panther".

Comparatively Spider-Man is all good.
 
Spider-Man was perfect. I like how they clearly demonstrated how ridiculously strong he could be (I loved him just grabbing Bucky's metal arm when everyone else struggles with it) yet is completely inexperienced and has no real idea what he's doing. Great portrayal.
 
I thought Black Panther was equal parts awesome and disappointing.

He does a couple of badass things, but then he gets arrested by the police, takes 4 Widow Bites to the chest without varying his tactic, fights like he just got his nails done and is generally ineffectual. He was just a minor nuisance when he's supposed to be "Stop, wait, look. It's Black Panther".

Comparatively Spider-Man is all good.
You're really trying too hard to paint Black Panther in a bad light. Like, instead of thinking he sucks because Widow hit him four times with those thingies of hers, you could view it as pretty bad-ass that he could take four of those attacks and still shrug them off quite quickly and almost caught the plane. The only reason Black Widow succeeded in doing what she did was because she "betrayed" him. And once she got one hit in, what the fuck could BP do to counter her attacks? There was no shelter, he has no deus ex machinas to pull out of his ass that could counter being electrocuted and BW's weapons were still effective enough that they could significantly slow him down so agile dodges or somehow blocking them were out of the question. All he could do is the pretty great feat of ignoring them the best he could and moving forward as quickly as possible despite receiving huge electric shocks. Otherwise he was pretty much unbeatable in the movie.

He's not stupid. Why would he cause a further scene when surrounded by the police? That's not anything to hold against him. Should he have killed Bucky? Fought the police? No, going with them meant (continuing) being near Bucky.
 
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