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CERN clocks faster-than-light neutrinos

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ReBurn

ReBurn

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Smellycat said:
No, no and no. Time travel is simply not possible and it doesn't make sense. As Chinner said, if time travel is possible then it should have happened by now. Ex: hitler would have stopped, 9/11 would have been prevented, etc...

Or maybe, just maybe...IT HAS ALREADY HAPPENED. What if atheist scientists went back in time planted fossils that look like humans, so that they can add proof to evolution???

:O
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Maybe time travelers caused those bad events to happen to increase corporate profits in 2011.
 
Trojita

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TacticalFox88

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Smellycat said:
No, no and no. Time travel is simply not possible and it doesn't make sense. As Chinner said, if time travel is possible then it should have happened by now. Ex: hitler would have stopped, 9/11 would have been prevented, etc...

Or maybe, just maybe...IT HAS ALREADY HAPPENED. What if atheist scientists went back in time planted fossils that look like humans, so that they can add proof to evolution???

:O
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....How can they come back in time if the future hasn't HAPPENED YET. Going back in time seems plausible given enough suspensions of disbelief, but forward is all kinds of wrong.
 
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ced

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Unknown Soldier said:
In 2034, CERN will announce the first working time machine which can transport a human through time. Shortly after, strange events occur which cause world governments to fall and wars to break out. By 2036, CERN rules the entire world, which is a dystopia that has reverted to 18th century levels of technology.
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Titor you're back?
 
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chaosblade

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iamshadowlark said:
Isn't the margin of error 10 nanoseconds? If so its well out.
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Yeah, I was in the process of posting that before anybody posted a full article.

Still doubt there was any faster-than-light travel here. Even if they can't find an error anywhere they'll still need to reproduce it. And if they can, well, I guess things will get interesting.
 
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Daft_Cat

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Smellycat said:
No, no and no. Time travel is simply not possible and it doesn't make sense. As Chinner said, if time travel is possible then it should have happened by now. Ex: hitler would have stopped, 9/11 would have been prevented, etc...

Or maybe, just maybe...IT HAS ALREADY HAPPENED. What if atheist scientists went back in time planted fossils that look like humans, so that they can add proof to evolution???

:O
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What happened happened and couldn't have happened any other way. Any successful time travel opens up a new alternative timeline. Did Star Trek teach you nothing?
 
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Stet

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TacticalFox88 said:
....How can they come back in time if the future hasn't HAPPENED YET. Going back in time seems plausible given enough suspensions of disbelief, but forward is all kinds of wrong.
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Huh? Travelling into the future is the only plausible form of time travel because it hasn't happened yet. Even the cosmic twin thought experiment can be considered travelling forwards through time.
 
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Orayn

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Khold said:
But a parsec is a unit of length!
lol
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There are two explanations for Han saying that.

1. Spirit of the film: Han was cocky and came up with something dumb on the spot.
2. Retcon garbage: The Kessel run is a dangerous navigational challenge and Han was bragging about having figured out an especially short route.

Pick your poison.
 
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Fenderputty

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Smellycat said:
No, no and no. Time travel is simply not possible and it doesn't make sense. As Chinner said, if time travel is possible then it should have happened by now. Ex: hitler would have stopped, 9/11 would have been prevented, etc...

Or maybe, just maybe...IT HAS ALREADY HAPPENED. What if atheist scientists went back in time planted fossils that look like humans, so that they can add proof to evolution???

:O
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If we are ever able to travel in time, I hope we're also capable of understading the ramifications of chaning major events in the past. After all we do learn from it.
 
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Aegus

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Secret_Riddle said:
What happened happened and couldn't have happened any other way. Any successful time travel opens up a new alternative timeline. Did Star Trek teach you nothing?
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It taught me that Sisko could go back in time, rob a man of his glory and then go back to his own time with no memory of ever having seen himself in the history books.
 
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Levyne

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Orayn said:
There are two explanations for Han saying that.

1. Spirit of the film: Han was cocky and came up with something dumb on the spot.
2. Retcon garbage: The Kessel run is a dangerous navigational challenge and Han was bragging about having figured out an especially short route.

Pick your poison.
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Yep, I'm aware.
 
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Kurtofan

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Smellycat said:
No, no and no. Time travel is simply not possible and it doesn't make sense. As Chinner said, if time travel is possible then it should have happened by now. Ex: hitler would have stopped, 9/11 would have been prevented, etc...

Or maybe, just maybe...IT HAS ALREADY HAPPENED. What if atheist scientists went back in time planted fossils that look like humans, so that they can add proof to evolution???

:O
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The Time Police wouldn't let people alter time in such a significant way.
 
The Elite

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Smellycat said:
No, no and no. Time travel is simply not possible and it doesn't make sense. As Chinner said, if time travel is possible then it should have happened by now. Ex: hitler would have stopped, 9/11 would have been prevented, etc...

Or maybe, just maybe...IT HAS ALREADY HAPPENED. What if atheist scientists went back in time planted fossils that look like humans, so that they can add proof to evolution???

:O
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCOz0mdhN7M&feature=related
 
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Fenderputty

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article said:
He cautioned that the neutrino researchers would also have to explain why similar results weren't detected before, such as when an exploding star - or supernova - was observed in 1987
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Obviously some hurdles to jump, but the simple proposition of this is quite exciting.
 
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Smellycat

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TacticalFox88 said:
....How can they come back in time if the future hasn't HAPPENED YET. Going back in time seems plausible given enough suspensions of disbelief, but forward is all kinds of wrong.
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Well, I am not going forward. What I am saying is that in their reality, they were in their present and scientists didn't have any basis for human evolution. So, these scientists invented time travel and had one shot at it. Meaning, once they go back in time, that present they lived in will no longer exist, because they are going to change it by planting these fossils. It is basically a suicide mission. They have no way of leaving the past, and they made sure that when they died in the past their skeletons would never be found (they died in lava or something like that).

So, when they planted these fossils, our reality came about.
 
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Rapstah

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Always-honest said:
They didn't add up two different speeds did they? cause that would be really foolish.
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Yeah, they had this particle accelerator driving around at close to light speed and then accelerated some particles in it.
 
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HeadlessRoland

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Deadly Cyclone said:
Note:
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You understand that 60 nanoseconds faster travel of 450 kilometers is a substantial increase in speed...

No, no and no. Time travel is simply not possible and it doesn't make sense. As Chinner said, if time travel is possible then it should have happened by now.
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Just because time travel is possible doesn't mean you can effect the past...
 
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The Technomancer

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Orayn said:
There are two explanations for Han saying that.

1. Spirit of the film: Han was cocky and came up with something dumb on the spot.
2. Retcon garbage: The Kessel run is a dangerous navigational challenge and Han was bragging about having figured out an especially short route.

Pick your poison.
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3.)Hyperspace is an alternate dimension of space. Your measure of skill as a pilot is how short you can make the corresponding hyperspace trip. "12 parsecs" refers to the distance he traveled in hyperspace to "make the Kessel run"


Fenderputty said:
+1 for Bill & Ted reference.
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...sarcasm?
 
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Fugu

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Kermit The Frog said:
Isn't Cherenkov radiation caused by faster than light particles?
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The phase velocity of light varies depending on the medium that it travels in. Cherenkov radiation is the result of something moving faster than the phase velocity of light within a given medium.
 
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