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CES 2010 Official Thread - Rise of the Machines

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NinjaFridge said:
Says $200 and $170
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Am I missing something here???

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NinjaFridge said:
I would pay for a podcast by the Narrator of Come Dine with me, the man is genius.
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They should use the power of 3D to make him sit next to you and narrate as the show is on.

Good to see some Come Dine With Me love, and more importantly for Dave Lamb.
 
Marty Chinn said:
No, I highly doubt that. The glasses aspect will be the limiting factor that will prevent it from catching on. It just looks stupid, you're going to need one for everyone watching TV, and it's going to be an extra cost that people won't put out for.
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Ding ding... That's what I was referring to... Not everyone is going to be rich and buy them because they still looking into HDTVs...

Hopefully this brings HDTVs prices aka non-3D ones lower... Because its going to take at least 5 to 10 years for these tvs to penetrate the market with already good for the common people HDTVs out there right now. Unless ofcourse the next consoles are 3D and non-3D... Most will stick with just HDTV...
 
ghostmind said:
I think it's too soon for 3DTV... I realize that companies want to drive profits, but consumers are just settling into the HDTV era... now everyone in the room is expected to wear glasses or go blind?

The SD news was huge though.
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It's just the dawn of the "next big thing" in home TV. Many people are just now buying HDTVs, but those types of TVs have been available for long over a decade now. Gotta start with early adopters.
 
These CNET commentators are kinda shit...god damn.
 
Can anyone clarify what Stringer said about a separate STB and 3D? I sort of missed it. Was it an indication that if you have a high enough refresh rate HDTV the STB somehow enables 3D? I did hear him mention giving consumers choice (yawn).

EDIT: I don't see why some people are so opposed to the concept of 3D TVs. It's the first step and, yep, it sure as hell has a lot of drawbacks. And, yep again, it is probably too early given HDTV adoption (which I know nothing about). But the longest journey begins with but a single step! There are seemingly a lot of companies taking risks on it so who knows what'll happen.
 
slider said:
Can anyone clarify what Stringer said about a separate STB and 3D? I sort of missed it. Was it an indication that if you have a high enough refresh rate HDTV the STB somehow enables 3D? I did hear him mention giving consumers choice (yawn).

EDIT: I don't see why some people are so opposed to the concept of 3D TVs. It's the first step and, yep, it sure as hell has a lot of drawbacks. And, yep again, it is probably too early given HDTV adoption (which I know nothing about). But the longest journey begins with but a single step! There are seemingly a lot of companies taking risks on it so who knows what'll happen.
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I think 3D TVs could work sometime down the future but the key factor is they need to eliminate the glasses element to it. That's the one factor that will make this nothing more than a small silly fad.
 
GazzaScotland said:
They should use the power of 3D to make him sit next to you and narrate as the show is on.

Good to see some Come Dine With Me love, and more importantly for Dave Lamb.
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EVERYONE loves that show. It's impossible not to.
 
As someone who wears prescription glasses, I can't really picture myself wearing 3D glasses on top of them just to watch TV or play video games in 3D for a length of time. Watching 3D movies at the theater for only an hour and a half is already uncomfortable. I'm on board for 3D TVs that don't require glasses, though.
 
jamesinclair said:
Would this be the same crow being served to those who said "vinyl, cassette, CD, SACD....its the natural progression!"


3D TV is a gimmick that wont last.
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SACD was killed by digital distribution before it could even set a foot into people's homes. That can't happen to 3D. Also SACD was backed by Sony/Philips exclusively (as far as I know). While 3D seems like a push by the whole industry.

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These are just observations. I'm not even that much of a 3d supporter.

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@ Moses Donut
They will adapt:
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Marty Chinn said:
No, I highly doubt that. The glasses aspect will be the limiting factor that will prevent it from catching on. It just looks stupid, you're going to need one for everyone watching TV, and it's going to be an extra cost that people won't put out for.
They look stupid and lame.
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While the glasses might well be a limiting factor, I'm not all that concerned about my appearance while watching TV in my living room.
 
RayStorm said:
While the glasses might well be a limiting factor, I'm not all that concerned about my appearance while watching TV in my living room.
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The thing is that when you have guests over... Would you need to get everyone glasses... The middle class of the US is not going into it, I think. Especially considering that all over the US/Europe/Japan/Australia/etc most people don't even own a HDTV.
 
Realyst said:
Do we have to install Silverlight for the MS conference?
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Not sure, there doesn't seem to be any link to actually view the conference just yet on that page.
 
Marty Chinn said:
Sure alone, but what about when people are over?
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Why would you care what your friends and family thought about glasses you wore?

This is as lame as people afraid of what they look like when they play handhelds.
 
krypt0nian said:
Why would you care what your friends and family thought about glasses you wore?

This is as lame as people afraid of what they look like when they play handhelds.
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No, he means how will they watch the 3D tv if they don't have the glasses.
 
The thing I hate about 3D glasses, is having to wear them over my own prescription glasses. As much as I enjoyed Avatar, the discomfort was constantly in the back of my mind while watching.
 
Zapages said:
The thing is that when you have guests over... Would you need to get everyone glasses... The middle class of the US is not going into it, I think. Especially considering that all over the US/Europe/Japan/Australia/etc most people don't even own a HDTV.
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But that's a very small hindrance. Unless there is a world-wide shortage of shutter glasses, that really won't be a problem. You do understand that these companies aren't hoping for a majority adoption of 3DTV in this decade, right? I mean, I'm sure that they would love it, but that's not very realistic. Like I said earlier, these first batches are always for the early adopters. They will pay the bulk of the R&D, then Joe Six Pack will buy into 3DTVs sometime next decade. That's how it was for HDTV. It's all a looooooong term investment.
 
Zapages said:
No, he means how will they watch the 3D tv if they don't have the glasses.
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You have extra glasses on hand or they go in the kitchen and play cards? Figure it out on an individual basis. Once they catch on, you'll be tripping over 3D glasses.

And they were talking about their appearances.
 
parasight said:
The thing I hate about 3D glasses, is having to wear them over my own prescription glasses. As much as I enjoyed Avatar, the discomfort was constantly in the back of my mind while watching.
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Physically? Or are you talking about eye problems? The glasses are so big and fit over my own glasses I never gave it a second thought. Now if your talking about headaches, long adjustment times, I can relate to that with my first Avatar screening so far.
 
Honestly, I was hoping that the companies would push for Circular Polarization (what RealD uses) for the glasses. Those glasses are so much cheaper to make than shutter. I'm pretty sure that compatibility would've been a problem though.
 
parasight said:
The thing I hate about 3D glasses, is having to wear them over my own prescription glasses. As much as I enjoyed Avatar, the discomfort was constantly in the back of my mind while watching.
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I'm pretty sure they already know about the problems you people (j/k) have with their tech. They will surely adapt:

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Phantast2k said:
I'm pretty sure they already know about the problems you people (j/k) have with their tech. They will surely adapt:

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Those work for the polarized technologies. Shutter...not so much.
 
jamesinclair said:
Would this be the same crow being served to those who said "vinyl, cassette, CD, SACD....its the natural progression!"


3D TV is a gimmick that wont last.
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I kind of agree here.

I'm not sure why something that hasn't taken off in the last 30 or so years is suddenyl going to take off now?

I mean, who is going to want to wear glasses EVERY time they watch TV?

Fuck that.

It's cool though as long as future TVs merely SUPPORT 3D as opposed to forcing it on us.
 
jrricky said:
Offtopic but *looks at the OP*
Where are the women CEOs?
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Or non-white not-50-somethings for that matter.
 
krypt0nian said:
You have extra glasses on hand or they go in the kitchen and play cards? Figure it out on an individual basis. Once they catch on, you'll be tripping over 3D glasses.

And they were talking about their appearances.
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These aren't the cheapo RealD glasses. These active shutter based glasses have lenses that are either actual glass, or LCD panels and will communicate with the TV wirelessly. At cost, the Dolby 3D glasses are about $30 a pop. It's highly unlikely that the TV manufacturers will adopt a plug-n-play wireless interface, so they will all probably end up proprietary, and fairly expensive when you need to buy additional. Most importantly, we don't know how many glasses can be paired with a TV at once.
 
Why For? said:
I kind of agree here.

I'm not sure why something that hasn't taken off in the last 30 or so years is suddenyl going to take off now?

I mean, who is going to want to wear glasses EVERY time they watch TV?

Fuck that.

It's cool though as long as future TVs merely SUPPORT 3D as opposed to forcing it on us.
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Yeah, because we're totally forced to watch HD programming.

Dude, are they making us watch Casablanca in color?
 
Realyst said:
Those work for the polarized technologies. Shutter...not so much.
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yeah I only thought about it after posting. Indeed. Well at least you'll be set for realD cinemas. That is if they introduce such clip add-ons. They'd be assholes not to do it.
 
krypt0nian said:
Shouldn't the MS link do something soon?
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I keep refreshing and...nothing.

Every site I find is pointing there, though...so it's on MS to make that shit work, cause that's where they said it'd be, damnit! :lol
 
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