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CES 2010 Official Thread - Rise of the Machines

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squicken said:
What is the benefit of the return channel in HDMI 1.4? Is that for data?

Data and some said two way video. Not sure how you would use it though. Take video from TV to what?
 
Um... is anyone going to make 3D HD porn? Yes...this is the only reason I want a 3D tv. I got a screen so big, Cherokee's ass will take up half my living room. :lol PEACE.
 
Pimpwerx said:
Um... is anyone going to make 3D HD porn? Yes...this is the only reason I want a 3D tv. I got a screen so big, Cherokee's ass will take up half my living room. :lol PEACE.

It exists, google is your friend.


not kidding either
 
Pimpwerx said:
Um... is anyone going to make 3D HD porn? Yes...this is the only reason I want a 3D tv. I got a screen so big, Cherokee's ass will take up half my living room. :lol PEACE.


Cherokee is something of another planet. She's super unique with her *coughs* body frame.
 
Pimpwerx said:
Um... is anyone going to make 3D HD porn? Yes...this is the only reason I want a 3D tv. I got a screen so big, Cherokee's ass will take up half my living room. :lol PEACE.
Her? Really? I guess if you prefer two gelatinous, amorphous, stretch-marked blobs in place of a butt, then I can see how she might be your style.
 
I'm loving that Samsung brushed aluminum LED TV with a remote that has a bigass LCD screen on it. watch TV on your remote! genius!

my geek receptors start tingling when I see that kind of stuff.
 
Great stuff from Palm by this February.

Verizon exclusive Pre Plus gets 16GB storage and 512MB ram; Pixi gets Wifi (AT&T and SFR in France later)
Mobile Hotspot (only Plus versions)
Native development with easy ports of C and C++ apps and 3d games (now in app catalogue)
Flash 10.1
Open web distribution of apps (no approval process)
Video recording and editing

I love the frequent OS updates. Keeps the Pre from being left behind with all the new phones coming out. And I'm betting ATT get their own versions of Pre and Pixi.

http://www.precentral.net/live-palms-ces-2010-event
 
Pimpwerx said:
Um... is anyone going to make 3D HD porn? Yes...this is the only reason I want a 3D tv. I got a screen so big, Cherokee's ass will take up half my living room. :lol PEACE.

err no.
 
Asbel said:
Great stuff from Palm by this February.

Verizon exclusive Pre Plus gets 16GB storage and 512MB ram; Pixi gets Wifi (AT&T and SFR in France later)
Mobile Hotspot (only Plus versions)
Native development with easy ports of C and C++ apps and 3d games (now in app catalogue)
Flash 10.1
Open web distribution of apps (no approval process)
Video recording and editing

I love the frequent OS updates. Keeps the Pre from being left behind with all the new phones coming out. And I'm betting ATT get their own versions of Pre and Pixi.

http://www.precentral.net/live-palms-ces-2010-event

I hope Sprint gets an update too at some point, if not a third WebOS phone. The styling of the Pixi with more power than the Pre would be awesome. I feel left out with the Pre Plus and the extra RAM. I can't exactly easily switch to Verizon. Even if I could, there is no way I could get a $68 a month phone bill with them.

But yeah, overall a pretty impressive showing by Palm.
 
Kinitari said:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/07/samsungs-14-inch-transparent-oled-laptop-video/



samsung_transp_lap001.jpg


This is the kind of useless, but awesome, stuff I want to see at CES! Moar!

I can't wait until car windshields are made of this.

I want my futuristic HUD now!
 
Arc Mouse...makes sense. Portable. Foldable. Magnetic holding of receiver...

Arc Keyboard...makes no sense. Not portable. Not foldable. No reason to have receiver housed in keyboard.

...it's not like you're traveling around with your Arc Keyboard in your laptop bag or something.
 
Unless that shit can fold up like the Arc mouse, that curve is stupid.

I've never gone for "ergonomic" keyboards... do a lot of people like those? Good ol' flat works for me.
 
D4Danger said:
Microsoft Arc keyboard ($59.95 at Best Buy)

http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/07/microsoft-debuts-arc-keyboard-exclusive-to-best-buy/

http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/m...ls.aspx?pid=120&active_tab=systemRequirements

mk_arckb_productfeatures.jpg


arc-keyboard-01-07-2010.jpg


yes, it's just a keyboard. It doesn't have netfilx or an OLED screen or anything special.

Lack of a keypad makes me sad






RubxQub said:
Arc Mouse...makes sense. Portable. Foldable. Magnetic holding of receiver...

Arc Keyboard...makes no sense. Not portable. Not foldable. No reason to have receiver housed in keyboard.

...it's not like you're traveling around with your Arc Keyboard in your laptop bag or something.

madmook said:
Unless that shit can fold up like the Arc mouse, that curve is stupid.

I've never gone for "ergonomic" keyboards... do a lot of people like those? Good ol' flat works for me.

If you type a ton, they make A LOT of sense.
 
The inexorable march of progress (yeah, I realise that's kind of a tautology).

I got a Sony BDPS5000ES a while back and then I see this line announced. Details are short but if it's playback (on both audio and visual) is anything like the 5000ES it'll be a great machine.

Sigh.
 
nataku said:
I hope Sprint gets an update too at some point, if not a third WebOS phone. The styling of the Pixi with more power than the Pre would be awesome. I feel left out with the Pre Plus and the extra RAM. I can't exactly easily switch to Verizon. Even if I could, there is no way I could get a $68 a month phone bill with them.

But yeah, overall a pretty impressive showing by Palm.
I'd be surprised if there wasn't yearly hardware updates to keep up with the pace of technology but announcing it now would hurt sales on Verizon. By the time new hardware hits Sprint, we'll be close to being able to upgrade since we get to do it yearly if I'm not mistaken.
I'm also jealous about the ram and tethering but it's hard to complain when paying $68 monthly after tax and insurance and getting things like texting, navigation and live tv included.
 
EricM85 said:
It may be around, but it won't be mainstream until it is done without glasses.
It won't be worth it until then, either.

That Sony OLED-3DTV looks nice. Autostereoscopic, too. I'll probably be going the OLED route when I get a 3DTV. Of course, an OLED-3DTV will become reasonably priced at the 40"-60" spectrum in 10 years, so, I should be all set with waiting for the technology to mature. :lol
 
rezuth said:
Why the hell would you want that?

Because when the weather is shit outside, you press one button and bam, you see a beach or mountains. It could be pretty fucking awesome. When it's in standby it could have small widgets for time, weather, scores, missed calls etc.

Another cool applications for clear monitors is a GPS on your car's windshield directly in front of you.
 
The best in show for me is hands down the MSI dual-screen "Future-puter", all the other MID and Tablets and eBooks are just meh.

I think from the crappy MS slate presentation we know that this is a reactionary move. The spec should be direct rip off of the Apple tablet. So I am guess a 7"-9" giant iPod touch, custom CPU, 800X480 and hopefully 1024X600 for screen, 1 gig-ish speed. Twice as much memory as the iPod. I am guessing $700 unsubsidized and $399 from AT&T. You will get unlimited internet, some free Times/Conde Nast magazine subscriptions for $30 a month. Additional subscriptions is probably $20 per magazine. Mark my words. :)
 
love CES. kinda want to get the new Olympus Stylus 7040 now. and the Stylus Tough 3000 just for the look :lol. and great price for what it offers i guess. I'm going to go through this thread and engadget to see what i missed which was a lot! Gotta find a way to buy a 3D tv as well :D
 
D4Danger said:
Microsoft Arc keyboard ($59.95 at Best Buy)

http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/07/microsoft-debuts-arc-keyboard-exclusive-to-best-buy/

http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/m...ls.aspx?pid=120&active_tab=systemRequirements

mk_arckb_productfeatures.jpg


arc-keyboard-01-07-2010.jpg


yes, it's just a keyboard. It doesn't have netfilx or an OLED screen or anything special.
Sweet... but man.

DONGLES

I HATE DONGLES. I HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATE DONGLES

USE BLUETOOTH. IT'S 2010 GOD DAMMIT

DONGLES GET LOST AND SHIT, USE UP USB PORTS

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKK DONGLLLLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES IN THE AAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
 
Jamesfrom818 said:
I can't wait until car windshields are made of this.

I want my futuristic HUD now!

Yeah, bet you can't wait to see the bill to replace one too after some punk kids smash it up on a whim. =P
 
Kintaro said:
Yeah, bet you can't wait to see the bill to replace one too after some punk kids smash it up on a whim. =P

or the hospital bills from your coma after some douche crashes into you while he's checking his twitter and playing farmville while driving.
 
koam said:
samsung_transp_lap001.jpg

This is fucking amazing, imagine replacing a window at home with one of these screens. So awesome. Total Recall = reality by 2015 please!
This is great for company computers.
The boss can see if you are porn surfing or on facebook.
 
CES Killer ap is here!!!!


Cell phone carriers have been promissing femtocells for years - basically, tiny cellular antennas for your home. They improve reception, and as a bonus, dont use any minutes. AT&T and TMobile have been "testing" them for years, in a limited pilot market.

Finally someone said fuck that and made their own!


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LAS VEGAS -

The company behind the magicJack, the cheap Internet phone gadget that's been heavily promoted on TV, has made a new version of the device that allows free calls from cell phones in the home, in a fashion that's sure to draw protest from cellular carriers.

The new magicJack uses, without permission, radio frequencies for which cellular carriers have paid billions of dollars for exclusive licenses.

YMax Corp., which is based in Palm Beach, Fla., said this week at the International Consumers Electronics Show that it plans to start selling the device in about four months for $40, the same price as the original magicJack. As before, it will provide free calls to the U.S. and Canada for one year.

The device is, in essence, a very small cellular tower for the home.

The size of a deck of cards, it plugs into a PC, which needs a broadband Internet connection. The device then detects when a compatible cell phone comes within 8 feet, and places a call to it. The user enters a short code on the phone. The phone is then linked to the magicJack, and as long as it's within range (YMax said it will cover a 3,000-square-foot home) magicJack routes the call itself, over the Internet, rather than going through the carrier's cellular tower. No minutes are subtracted from the user's account with the carrier. Any extra fees for international calls are subtracted from the user's account with magicJack, not the carrier.

According to YMax CEO Dan Borislow, the device will connect to any phone that uses the GSM standard, which in the U.S. includes phones from AT&T Inc. and T-Mobile USA. At a demonstration at CES, a visitor's phone with a T-Mobile account successfully placed and received calls through the magicJack. Most phones from Verizon Wireless and Sprint Nextel Corp. won't connect to the device.

Borislow said the device is legal because wireless spectrum licenses don't extend into the home.

AT&T, T-Mobile and the Federal Communications Commission had no immediate comment on whether they believe the device is legal, but said they were looking into the issue. CTIA — The Wireless Association, a trade group, said it was declining comment for now. None of them had heard of YMax's plans.

Borislow said YMax has sold 5 million magicJacks for landline phones in the last two years, and that roughly 3 million are in active use. That would give YMax a bigger customer base than Internet phone pioneer Vonage Holdings Corp., which has been selling service for $25 per month for the better part of a decade. Privately held YMax had revenue of $110 million last year, it says.

U.S. carriers have been selling and experimenting with devices that act similarly to the wireless magicJack. They're called "femtocells." Like the magicJack, they use the carrier's licensed spectrum to connect to a phone, then route the calls over a home broadband connection. They improve coverage inside the home and offload capacity from the carrier's towers.

But femtocells are complex products, because they're designed to mesh with the carrier's external network. They cost the carriers more than $200, though some sell them cheaper, recouping the cost through added service fees. YMax's magicJack is a much smaller, simpler design.


http://tech.yahoo.com/news/ap/us_tec_gadget_show_magicjack
 
Any updates on gaming headphones at CES? I know Tritton was supposed to show some new stuff. Any other company? I'm really looking to buy some new Astros or Trittons later on this year.
 
jamesinclair said:
CES Killer ap is here!!!!


Cell phone carriers have been promissing femtocells for years - basically, tiny cellular antennas for your home. They improve reception, and as a bonus, dont use any minutes. AT&T and TMobile have been "testing" them for years, in a limited pilot market.


http://tech.yahoo.com/news/ap/us_tec_gadget_show_magicjack

Sounds great. I should buy one for my mom when it comes out because reception at her place sucks.
 
Of all the companies to potentially 'win' CES, who would have thought RCA might do it?




http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/09/airnergy-wifi-power-system-gives-rca-a-reason-to-exist-video/

Airnergy WiFi power system

We don't usually associate RCA with new and innovative technologies, but we think know they're on to something with its Airnergy power system, which harvests energy from WiFi signals. Shipping this summer, the pocketable dongle picks up WiFi signals from the air and manages to charge an internal battery through some magic inside. You don't have to connect to a network, you just have to be in a place that has signal, and it will automatically charge up. As if we weren't intrigued already, they told us that they're planning on building the tech into actual cellphone batteries, so you would theoretically never need to plug in again and your device would always be topped off. Yeah, we want.

This is so full of win, it's almost too good to be true. Imagine not having to charge your portable devices anymore?

I hope they license this tech out. Just imagine if eventually it's shrunk down, and things like eneloop batteries do this as well? FUCK!!!!!!!!11!!
 
And with this, BD-J suddenly becomes awesome




http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/09/blu-tv-brings-interactive-iptv-to-disc-players-starting-with-th/

Blu-TV brings interactive IPTV to disc players, starting with the BDP-83

blutvui_440.jpg


Dreamer has finally found a partner in its Blu-ray powered IPTV fantasy now that Blu-TV has debuted on the OPPO BDP-83. As the company envisions it, once loaded, it turns your BD-Live capable Blu-ray player into a video and interactive content gateway anyone can develop apps for once the SDK is released. Already powering an IPTV service in Korea, we got a quick demo of the software running on a PS3 in Dreamer's CES booth and flipped through a quick selection of online marketplaces, simple games and video services. We're not sure how many manufacturers will warm to the idea of opening up players currently limited to their choice of streaming services, but if the apps start to flow, having this as an embedded option could be a differentiating feature as player prices dive.
 
Onix said:
Of all the companies to potentially 'win' CES, who would have thought RCA might do it?




http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/09/airnergy-wifi-power-system-gives-rca-a-reason-to-exist-video/

Airnergy WiFi power system



This is so full of win, it's almost too good to be true. Imagine not having to charge your portable devices anymore?

I hope they license this tech out. Just imagine if eventually it's shrunk down, and things like eneloop batteries do this as well? FUCK!!!!!!!!11!!


This is excellent. Thanks CES, you've done it again. Now it just has to make it to market.
 
duderon said:
This is excellent. Thanks CES, you've done it again. Now it just has to make it to market.

Others have been R&Ding this sort of tech, but it looks like this is actually pretty close to a rollout. Can't wait!!!







Another highlight for me is the USB 3.0 demo. They hooked it up to an Intel SSD, and were getting ~200Mbs :). While internal drives still win in terms of form-factor, portable drives obviously offer far better practicality in certain situations.

The fact that USB 3.0 gives up very little in performance is going to be awesome!!!




One last quick note. Android is making a killing at CES. It's showing up not only in phones, but in several tablets and slates. As for phones though, LG's CEO just announced that about half of their upcoming smartphones will be Android. :p
 
Onix said:
Of all the companies to potentially 'win' CES, who would have thought RCA might do it?




http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/09/airnergy-wifi-power-system-gives-rca-a-reason-to-exist-video/

Airnergy WiFi power system



This is so full of win, it's almost too good to be true. Imagine not having to charge your portable devices anymore?

I hope they license this tech out. Just imagine if eventually it's shrunk down, and things like eneloop batteries do this as well? FUCK!!!!!!!!11!!
my mind is blown by this
 
Onix said:
Of all the companies to potentially 'win' CES, who would have thought RCA might do it?




http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/09/airnergy-wifi-power-system-gives-rca-a-reason-to-exist-video/

Airnergy WiFi power system



This is so full of win, it's almost too good to be true. Imagine not having to charge your portable devices anymore?

I hope they license this tech out. Just imagine if eventually it's shrunk down, and things like eneloop batteries do this as well? FUCK!!!!!!!!11!!

Awesome if this goes all the way----this is some Tesla shit right here(almost literally IIRC)!
 
From the sounds of it, the external device being shown will be available in late summer.

Next year, they will be releasing integrated batteries for cellphones, MP3 players, etc :D



If they make laptop/tablet/slate batteries ... oh shi--- 0_0
 
Didn't Nokia have some green cell phone they were promoting that had this type of tech in it?
 
As for Tesla, this is a bit different from his 'world energy' concept, which can be seen as more of a virtual lightning rod.



What is actually closer to this tech, is what Solaren is doing. Their Space Solar Power (SSP) tech involves collecting solar energy from space ... converting it to RF for transmission to Earth ... and converting the received RF energy to electricity. This is pretty much doing the last step, but specifically in the WiFi RF range.






RubxQub said:
Didn't Nokia have some green cell phone they were promoting that had this type of tech in it?

Could be. As I said before, I've certainly seen others discussing this tech previously ... I believe prototypes have been demoed as well. What differentiates this is that it looks like it's actually ready for primetime. Was the Nokia stuff ever released?
 
jamesinclair said:
CES Killer ap is here!!!!


Cell phone carriers have been promissing femtocells for years - basically, tiny cellular antennas for your home. They improve reception, and as a bonus, dont use any minutes. AT&T and TMobile have been "testing" them for years, in a limited pilot market.

Finally someone said fuck that and made their own!


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LAS VEGAS -

The company behind the magicJack, the cheap Internet phone gadget that's been heavily promoted on TV, has made a new version of the device that allows free calls from cell phones in the home, in a fashion that's sure to draw protest from cellular carriers.

The new magicJack uses, without permission, radio frequencies for which cellular carriers have paid billions of dollars for exclusive licenses.

YMax Corp., which is based in Palm Beach, Fla., said this week at the International Consumers Electronics Show that it plans to start selling the device in about four months for $40, the same price as the original magicJack. As before, it will provide free calls to the U.S. and Canada for one year.

The device is, in essence, a very small cellular tower for the home.

The size of a deck of cards, it plugs into a PC, which needs a broadband Internet connection. The device then detects when a compatible cell phone comes within 8 feet, and places a call to it. The user enters a short code on the phone. The phone is then linked to the magicJack, and as long as it's within range (YMax said it will cover a 3,000-square-foot home) magicJack routes the call itself, over the Internet, rather than going through the carrier's cellular tower. No minutes are subtracted from the user's account with the carrier. Any extra fees for international calls are subtracted from the user's account with magicJack, not the carrier.

According to YMax CEO Dan Borislow, the device will connect to any phone that uses the GSM standard, which in the U.S. includes phones from AT&T Inc. and T-Mobile USA. At a demonstration at CES, a visitor's phone with a T-Mobile account successfully placed and received calls through the magicJack. Most phones from Verizon Wireless and Sprint Nextel Corp. won't connect to the device.

Borislow said the device is legal because wireless spectrum licenses don't extend into the home.

AT&T, T-Mobile and the Federal Communications Commission had no immediate comment on whether they believe the device is legal, but said they were looking into the issue. CTIA — The Wireless Association, a trade group, said it was declining comment for now. None of them had heard of YMax's plans.

Borislow said YMax has sold 5 million magicJacks for landline phones in the last two years, and that roughly 3 million are in active use. That would give YMax a bigger customer base than Internet phone pioneer Vonage Holdings Corp., which has been selling service for $25 per month for the better part of a decade. Privately held YMax had revenue of $110 million last year, it says.

U.S. carriers have been selling and experimenting with devices that act similarly to the wireless magicJack. They're called "femtocells." Like the magicJack, they use the carrier's licensed spectrum to connect to a phone, then route the calls over a home broadband connection. They improve coverage inside the home and offload capacity from the carrier's towers.

But femtocells are complex products, because they're designed to mesh with the carrier's external network. They cost the carriers more than $200, though some sell them cheaper, recouping the cost through added service fees. YMax's magicJack is a much smaller, simpler design.


http://tech.yahoo.com/news/ap/us_tec_gadget_show_magicjack
Sprint has had that for a while already...

Google Airave if you don't believe me
 
Onix said:
Of all the companies to potentially 'win' CES, who would have thought RCA might do it?




http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/09/airnergy-wifi-power-system-gives-rca-a-reason-to-exist-video/

Airnergy WiFi power system



This is so full of win, it's almost too good to be true. Imagine not having to charge your portable devices anymore?

I hope they license this tech out. Just imagine if eventually it's shrunk down, and things like eneloop batteries do this as well? FUCK!!!!!!!!11!!

What if this kind of thing could be 'souped up' to such a level that it could recharge electric car batteries.. :O
 
Onix said:
It uses BD-J ... so in theory it should be able to work on any BD player that has support.
Yea but would it be built in,firmware update,on BD or something. God sony really needs an app platform for the ps3.
 
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