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Cisco hoping to acquire Nintendo
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DefectiveReject
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Nintendo wouldn't sell up anyway. They have no need to.
The Abominable Snowman
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I want Apple and Time Warner to merge and buy Nintendo.
norinrad21
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After all these years people still haven't figured Nintendo out yet?
If anything both Nintendo and the fans will rather see the company go down in flames, this is not sega we are talking about here
If anything both Nintendo and the fans will rather see the company go down in flames, this is not sega we are talking about here
DefectiveReject
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Haven't Nintendo just bought back a Shed Load of shares?
DefectiveReject
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Not sure. i thought it was a couple of hundred million $'s worth!
DefectiveReject
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GDGF said:
I think they only do it when they have big returns to increase payments to shareholders, or to ease investor worries?
clearacell
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must be a slow news time eh?
oh yeah, :lol @ cisco
oh yeah, :lol @ cisco
DCharlie
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usually it's just a company feeling that it's stock is being undervalued by the market, so it's effectively investing in itself.
Remember, these buy backs came PRIOR to the DS. So perhaps it's more likely they had confidence they were onto a good thing. Also bear in mind that their stock price sank pretty low.
Buying back stock can help stave of a buyout, but Nintendo (even with the help of top shareholder Yama) aren't in a possition to stop anyone taking a controlling share.
So - i'd assume that MS wanted to buy the whole lock/stock, or wanted to do the take over in good faith and not by force. Assumedly to try and keep hold of the assets (Miyamoto etc)
Nintendo fanboys make me laugh, do you even know who Cisco systems are?
*For the period ended April 30, 2005, Cisco reported sales of $6.19bn*
Buying a games company just when the industry is going online is a very smart move for a computer networks company.
Nintendo are a company out to make money just like everyone else, get over it.
*For the period ended April 30, 2005, Cisco reported sales of $6.19bn*
Buying a games company just when the industry is going online is a very smart move for a computer networks company.
Nintendo are a company out to make money just like everyone else, get over it.
norinrad21
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redfox455 said:
No no no you get over it, Kyoto is not for sale.
redfox455 said:
Well of course Nintendo is in the game for the money. The difference between different company strategies is how they want to earn the money. Nintendo obviously (if you go buy the proposed Microsoft buyout) seems to think that they'll earn more in the long run by going solo and expand than selling the company/stock for a short term income. But in the end nobody will refuse a buyout as long as the buyer will pay a premium price for it. Obviously Nintendo had a high premium price just like Square had when Microsoft wanted to buy (a part of) them.
Chittagong
Gold Member
It might be doable. Keep in mind that Cisco announced two weeks ago in a Financial Times front page interview that they are seriously intending to become a major consumer electronics company in the not-distant future in order to leverage their networking competence.
Cisco is well known by aggressive, non-organic growth. They are an extremely wealthy company with more cash than they need and more cash coming in from the windows, from under the door and beneath the carpet. Something must be done.
The real question is how Nintendo's ownership is held, is there a few large owners or is it widely distributed. I figure it'd be hostile in any case, since the company doesn't seem keen to sell out - but with a premium big enough, investors might.
Definately not worth the nervous laughter earlier in this thread.
Cisco is well known by aggressive, non-organic growth. They are an extremely wealthy company with more cash than they need and more cash coming in from the windows, from under the door and beneath the carpet. Something must be done.
The real question is how Nintendo's ownership is held, is there a few large owners or is it widely distributed. I figure it'd be hostile in any case, since the company doesn't seem keen to sell out - but with a premium big enough, investors might.
Definately not worth the nervous laughter earlier in this thread.
sonikokaruto
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Xenon said:
arriba CISCO!
It could be possible, but it´s quite hard.
We would need the list of the main stockholders and the porcentages to know the real possibilities of this.
Every company in the world is buyable, that how this system works. Other thing is that you price yourself so expensive and put so many barriers that makes any buyer think twice before trying. For what I know, Nintendo has done various movements of buying his own stock, so if Cisco or any company wants to buy it, you can be sure it will be really expensive.
But if you want the truth, I hope it doen´t happen. Cisco is a very aggresive company and I have certain doubts they could understand a the inner mechanism of a company as Nintendo, that is very far of a typical videogame company.
It´s usually considered a high risk move. There are important differences in the management of companies. Traditionally, japanese companies seem to have more flexibility for adapting to the west market that the opposite (but right now I think this is less certain that before). At the end it all depends of the persons in charge and its intelligenca a business sense, no matter where are they from.
We would need the list of the main stockholders and the porcentages to know the real possibilities of this.
Every company in the world is buyable, that how this system works. Other thing is that you price yourself so expensive and put so many barriers that makes any buyer think twice before trying. For what I know, Nintendo has done various movements of buying his own stock, so if Cisco or any company wants to buy it, you can be sure it will be really expensive.
But if you want the truth, I hope it doen´t happen. Cisco is a very aggresive company and I have certain doubts they could understand a the inner mechanism of a company as Nintendo, that is very far of a typical videogame company.
It´s usually considered a high risk move. There are important differences in the management of companies. Traditionally, japanese companies seem to have more flexibility for adapting to the west market that the opposite (but right now I think this is less certain that before). At the end it all depends of the persons in charge and its intelligenca a business sense, no matter where are they from.
Even with a hostile takeover, you need to convince the stake holders to sell their shares, which will not be easy. I don't know how many are really available (the 10% of Yamauchi will not be sold, for example, I thinkTeddman said:
).But that would cost them A LOT, since Nintendo has something like 8 billion of cash, which can be use to defend themselves against a takeover. That's twice the income of Cisco for last year...
PjotrStroganov
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I guess Cisco is crappasticaly rich. It owns the infrastructure on which the internet is built upon and they own Linksys, the supplier of the most succesfull home network hardware.
Doesn't really matter. Cisco can own Nintendo without actually trying to change what Nintendo is doing. They could, however, team up in severall departments.
At least two things that link Cisco to Ninty is the home entertainment market(Cisco is expanding in this segment) and wireless networks.
Still, I doubt it will happen. Just wanted to state that Cisco is a company that is probably able to do it.
Doesn't really matter. Cisco can own Nintendo without actually trying to change what Nintendo is doing. They could, however, team up in severall departments.
At least two things that link Cisco to Ninty is the home entertainment market(Cisco is expanding in this segment) and wireless networks.
Still, I doubt it will happen. Just wanted to state that Cisco is a company that is probably able to do it.
Again, it depends on who owns currently Nintendo's shares... Nintendo itself may not be able to say anything on the sale. The only thing they can do is :Furoba said:Well, Nintendo needs to agree with a sale... If they disagree, no sale. Just the same with companies like Tecmo; they are financially healthy enough to maintain a majority stake. Much depends on the majority stake owner.
- convince share holders that Nintendo shares will grow more than Cisco ones (or convince that Cisco is Teh evilzzz...) so they're not willing to accept an immediate profit and prefer a long-term profit
- try to buy, with their cash reserve, their own actions with a higher price than Cisco's... Price will go up, and the richer the winner
If this was true, I guess it would be a great time to buy Nintendo shares...
GitarooMan
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This is probably not happening, but it's hillarious to see everyone get so indignant at the thought of precious Nintendo being bought. People do realize Cisco has about a six time larger market cap than Nintendo, it's a much larger company (So those saying Nintendo would buy Cisco are really laughable)
So this is might be unlikely, but there are always rumors of larger companies buying smaller companies. Things change fast in business, Nintendo may not have want to have been acquired yesterday, but who knows in the future. It's almost like the laughter here is nervous laughter that this may happen someday.
So this is might be unlikely, but there are always rumors of larger companies buying smaller companies. Things change fast in business, Nintendo may not have want to have been acquired yesterday, but who knows in the future. It's almost like the laughter here is nervous laughter that this may happen someday.
Tim the Wiz
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Furoba said:Much depends on the majority stake owner.
I stood on my chair and put my hands around my mouth to amplify my voice, see, and said, in English, slowly and forming the words very carefully -- HEY, BALLMER, WHY DON'T YOU SUCK MY TINY YELLOW BALLS?
Smiles and Cries
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Take this news with some lube!
DeadlyMelody
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Cisco, you so silly.
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Why should a Nbot worry about being bought out? If even MS couldn't obtain Nintendo when they had less money, why does Cisco think they could purchase Nintendo?teiresias said:
I do know that Cisco has been trying to get into the home sector for a while now (see Linksys), but acquiring Nintendo makes little sense with their plans.
Lord Error
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Could someone come up with some sort of actual proof that MS ever really tried to buy Nintendo? People keep repeating this as a mantra, when in fact the only source for this I ever saw was that Dean Takahashi book, where the half of the things mentioned seemed to be blown out of proportion or misreported. Has that buyout attempt ever been mentioned in any financial reports paper or anything that has some resemblance of credibility?
I remember that Iwata or Yamauchi said that they were not for sale.
"The day we wont bring out a new home console is the day we quit."
If Nintendo ever goes bankrupt they take Zelda/Mario/Pokemon etc. with them.
And im sure they do the same to any company thats related to them. HAL/Skip/Camelot/Retro/NST/etc.
Bandai/Namco/Capcom will most likely take a big hit as well.
"The day we wont bring out a new home console is the day we quit."
If Nintendo ever goes bankrupt they take Zelda/Mario/Pokemon etc. with them.
And im sure they do the same to any company thats related to them. HAL/Skip/Camelot/Retro/NST/etc.
Bandai/Namco/Capcom will most likely take a big hit as well.
Larry Bird
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An attempted hostile takeover would most certainly fail, what with all their ninjas and stuff.Teddman said:
Cisco Gamesphere FTW.Suburban Cowboy said: