The Damascus suicide bombing
Today's killing of Assad officials raises uncomfortable questions about the meaning and justifiability of Terrorism
By Glenn Greenwald
http://www.salon.com/2012/07/18/the_damascus_suicide_bombing/
I want to understand how the events of the last 10 years, especially the last 12 months, impacts geopolitical power both globally and regionally. Who gains from this? Who suffers?
Because Glenn Greenwald is a tool. The last paragraph is full of painful attempts to after dancing around the issue, claim, oh I'm not really talking about this at all...even though I just was.how is it terrorism, in a war and the attack in question targeted the head of the opposing force?!
I separate terrorism by defining it as the intentional attack on innocent civilians. By that definition, Syria has been engaging in terrorism for a while now, gunning down protesters.
Then again, when the Maryland sniper was going around killing people, they didn't call that terrorism.
Seems to be just a tired argument about semantics so its best to not use it at all anymore.
It is interesting because I don't consider Kamakazis suicide bombers. That word does have the association with Terrorism.
I do think terrorism is such a vague word. Regimes can justify any attack as terrorism. But then that leaves no room for legitament attacks on oppressive regimes. I don't know if attacking a military target really is terrorism. It is a dicey question and goes to uncomfortable places
Fuck the west and their regional games. This shit is going to probably devolve like Lebanon. Thousands are going to die without any drastic change.
Well, the same group who claims to be behind this attack has bombed civilian public places. I rarely hear a word of condemnation by the western government.how is it terrorism, in a war and the attack in question targeted the head of the opposing force?!
And you completely deny that this has anything to do with a proxy conflict between Sunni Arab states and Shiite Iran? It's ALL the fault of "the West."
It was in Bulgaria, not Israel. The targets were Israeli though.Fuck and a bus bomb went off in Israel and they're blaming Iran. Shit is about to get nuts.
The Western governments are pursuing a regime change on the basis of "Freedom & Democracy for the Syrian People". Not the oil & gas sheikdoms of tyranny. but Now it all makes sense. United Sunni States of America.And you completely deny that this has anything to do with a proxy conflict between Sunni Arab states and Shiite Iran? It's ALL the fault of "the West."
Well, the same group who claims to be behind this attack has bombed civilian public places. I rarely hear a word of condemnation by the western government.
What's the most weird thing about today's suicide bombing is that the UK gov has condemned it while ex-US gov officials calls the one who did it a -martyr-.
The Western governments are pursuing a regime change on the basis of "Freedom & Democracy for the Syrian People". Not the oil & gas sheikdoms of tyranny. but Now it all makes sense. United Sunni States of America.
The Western governments are pursuing a regime change on the basis of "Freedom & Democracy for the Syrian People". Not the oil & gas sheikdoms of tyranny. but Now it all makes sense. United Sunni States of America.
BAIL OUT
Be more specific. Name the massacres.Do you still deny the massacres Assad's forces have carried out? The mass shellings of civilian populaces?
Be more specific. Name the massacres.
Be more specific. Name the massacres.
You do realise plenty of those were carried by the FSA and various "rebel" groups right? While the regime has done despicable things, lots of what it's been attributed wasn't done by it.Everything that has occurred in the last few months. This isn't something needing a ton of specificity to find an example. It's not a needle in a haystack. It's more like non massacres being the needle in the haystack!
CHEEZMO™;40008065 said:Please don't entertain the lunacy :/
You do realise plenty of those were carried by the FSA and various "rebel" groups right? While the regime has done despicable things, lots of what it's been attributed wasn't done by it.
You do realise plenty of those were carried by the FSA and various "rebel" groups right? While the regime has done despicable things, lots of what it's been attributed wasn't done by it.
Russia would be crazy to give up their only base in the ME without having another back-up.
Maybe it's time for them to negotiate with nations like Palestine and/or Iran in case of a rebel controlled Syria?
Those tensions were ever there, the proper nudges and incentives were external i think.
You do realize Palestine is under Israeli control. And turning their lot in with Iran. Good luck with that.
Russia screwed themselves. They probably could have secured the base with whatever new government if they weren't so head over heels in love with Assad
You do realize Palestine is under Israeli control. And turning their lot in with Iran. Good luck with that.
Russia screwed themselves. They probably could have secured the base with whatever new government if they weren't so head over heels in love with Assad
The Western governments are pursuing a regime change on the basis of "Freedom & Democracy for the Syrian People". Not the oil & gas sheikdoms of tyranny. but Now it all makes sense. United Sunni States of America.
A joint Arab-Israeli conspiracy!Syria information minister says the Damascus bombing was orchestrated by Turkey, Qatar, Saudi and Israeli intelligence, won't go unanswered.
The FSA gets a free pass in the west despite beeing little more than a ragtag of foreign fighters (pouring through Jordan, Irak and Lebannon mostly), real terrorrists and Muslim Brotherhood members. While there are some idealists fighting for "freedom" and "democracy" they are few and far between.Neither side should be free from criticism for their actions, regardless of their respective ends
Either this is level 3 troll powers, or you're just closing your eyes, plugging your ears and saying "lalalalalalala" over and over again. There's video out there. There are stories out there. There's first hand testimony out there.
C'mon man. Don't ask for details when it's already understood.
Edit: Cheezmo down under here is right....sigh.
Yes, that was one of the dumbest threads in recent memory.
Yes, explicitly so in the last thread.Have we considered the possibility that Solid warrior is Bashar Al-Assad?
It was in Bulgaria, not Israel. The targets were Israeli though.
Attacks aimed at military targets do not preclude them from being labeled terrorism. The attack on the Pentagon, even if it had done significant damage, wouldn't have disrupted the American military apparatus enough to result in key strategic gains for the attackers. It was a purely symbolic attack. Whether or not the attack on the officials was justifiable, it is not at all uncommon to target key members of the opposition to destabilize their ability to carry out further violence, if that is indeed the intended aim of the bomber. With that said, the means to bring it about are somewhat unsettling, if for no other reason than the associations of suicide bombing with terrorism.
The Damascus suicide bombing
Today's killing of Assad officials raises uncomfortable questions about the meaning and justifiability of Terrorism
By Glenn Greenwald
http://www.salon.com/2012/07/18/the_damascus_suicide_bombing/
I wonder when Russia will cut its losses and back down so they don't make an unnecessary enemy out of a possible new Syrian government after this is all over with. I guess they'll wait until they really think Assad is done for and then jump ship to try and stay on the winning side at the end.
Its the only Russian military site in the ME, plus how manyvs Russian civilians work and live in Syria?That Russian 'base' is basically two piers and a couple of shacks, accomodating less then 50 people.
The FSA gets a free pass in the west despite beeing little more than a ragtag of foreign fighters (pouring through Jordan, Irak and Lebannon mostly), real terrorrists and Muslim Brotherhood members. While there are some idealists fighting for "freedom" and "democracy" they are few and far between.
I thoroughly dread an islamists ruled Syria. Not only for my family, but for the country as a whole.
The FSA makes me EXTREMELY uneasy, but I don't think you can deny the right of the Syrian people to rise up against the regime that has sluaghtered tens of thousands.
Oh I must have missed the recent use of heavy artillery and gunships in the last week or so, damn this TDKR hype.Sucks this is going on so long
Same for bahrain but funnily enough the western media ignores what's happening over there...
Oh I must have missed the recent use of heavy artillery and gunships in the last week or so, damn this TDKR hype.
Be careful who you call "the Syrian people" . This is civil war , there are "Syrian people " on both sides , that's what makes it a civil war.
I don't see how this is relevant to my post.