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CNN: FBI refused White House request to knock down recent Trump-Russia stories
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PantherLotus
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1. my usual: drip
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2. yeah this is a holy shit.
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2. yeah this is a holy shit.
superdeluxe
Member
Oooooh
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Signs that "It's so obvious that blank is clearly because of blank" is actually not so obvious.
RPGCrazied
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Its clear he didn't want Hillary to be President, but doesn't want Trump either. He wants Pence.
smokeandmirrors
Banned
this is most assuredly it
Futurevoid
Member
I'll take it. Eject Bannon, Miller, Gorka and Kelly Anne from the White House and lets go. I can deal with a bog standard dysfunctional Republican admin.
Considering its impossible to have evidence that Comey actually intended to affect the election in Trumps favor with his letter to congress, its not fair to say its clear or obvious or anything of the sort. The same reason I was sticking to my guns when he decided Hillary shouldnt face charges, im doing so now, I believe they try to be apolitical and act on evidence. You might just be jumping to a conclusion because it fits your speculation. Its not unreasonable to think he wasnt trying to help Trump. He went out of his way to the chagrin of Republicans to explain that Hillary should not face charges. He went before congress and they had a hearing for hours ffs. He defended her
RPGCrazied
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Sessions too, but Pence won't do that.
oneils
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Wow, great read (not particularly well written, but damn it's a great read).
I want this to be real.
metalslimer
Member
But bill and loretta!!
BlastProcessing
Member
Comy, Comi, Comey has done it again.
Maybe because there wasn't any illegal evidence on her? His defending of Hillary just means he was doing his job. It does not show any kind of favoritism or cancel out the idea that he released that 3 email crap right before the election without a motive.
Maximus.
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Maybe he realized how much he fucked up.
Let's see that fucking worm try and squirm his way out of this one on Meet The Press.
They are barely trying to hide that their entire crusade against the media is just about them being angry they can't control the narrative.
I have a hard time believing that Pence would be the back up. At what point is every choice and every person associated with Trump compromised? If Russia directly influenced the election or had influence over a candidate, shouldn't that mean scorched earth? Shouldnt every executive order issued be called into question?
Im pretty sure if Trump was aided by the Russians, then every single one of "his people" will be gone. Paul Ryan would most likely be president, and I wouldnt be surprised if Congress made a emergency election for a new president.
smokeymicpot
Beat EviLore at pool.
Ryan becomes president no special elections.
There's no emergency election. It's Paul Ryan. He's third in succession and the only one (I think?) that isn't tied to the campaign.
edit: I guess second technically. Third man down the list if you include Trump.
BlackGhost
Banned
waits for fake news response...
Prof. Bathtub
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Weird then that he'd release a statement about emails with zero substance behind it, while never commenting about the investigations into the Republican campaign's Russian contacts that were happening simultaneously.
Perhaps this is some game to try to become the most hated FBI director by both parties, each convinced that he does just enough good for their cause to prevent him from being fired.
Honestly, I think this is the most accurate assumption of the situation. What Comey did emailing the house about Hillary's emails days away from the election is unforgiveable, but given the reporting surrounding that situation, in many ways it sounds like he was hamstrung. NYC Trumpland FBI office was leaking shit to hurt Hillary and he had agreed to inform the House committee of any changes in the case. If he hadn't announced chances are it would've leaked and the GOP would've skewered him instead of the Dems.
What is really unforgiveable though is the fact that the FBI knew about Trump/Russia ties at the time and were investigating, but he refused to achnowledge or confirm the investigation. Yes, that was standard practice, but he broke those rules when he held the press conference regarding Hillary's investigation. I understand that he was between a rock and a hard place, but it was his own doing and ultimately he fucked up.
That said, now that Hillary is out of the equation and we've got Trump in the WH, I do believe that Comey does fundamentally want to do his job to the best of his abilities without partisanship getting in the way. I am glad Trump has not replaced him as of yet, and I do believe that with him at the helm the FBI do have free reign to see where these investigations take them.
the_firewithin
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And the the fbi goes "oh yah fucko" and releases a transcript or something
Several possibilities:
1) He really fucking hates the Clintons over the Marc Rich stuff, but that doesn't really matter anymore.
2) Generally pretty well-intentioned, but the October letter was really Chaffetz' fault for leaking it. Comey thought it wouldn't matter, but it did.
Comey did a lot of unprecedented things that no other director has done. That big press conference to announce the no charges against Clinton was a complete fiasco. FBI do not normally do press conferences like that, it was very unusual. What's worse, he added a lot of his own opinions during it, which created even more fodder for the GOP. Remember 'EXTREMELY CARELESS' HILLARY! That was fun.
Comey then had to defend his stance in congress because he couldn't force a charge on Clinton. They clearly found no illegal intent whatsoever. But his little editorial comments from the press conference were so fucking damaging that he had to be hauled in to explain himself further to congress, lol. But he said so himself, it would have been a farce to try and charge Clinton, especially in comparison to much more egregious examples.
Then the unprecedented letter to congress just 2 weeks before the election was the cherry on top of the shit ice cream Comey had been making. How does the FBI make 2 huge public stunts like that months and weeks before the general? Something isn't right. If not outright partisan, then he was completely inept in every way.
Dash_Riprock
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"Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity."
Its why I don't believe any of these "Trump/Bannon/GoP are brilliant schemers" theories for a second.
It's a little bit of both. Trump et al are both stupid and malicious.
If you buy the part in that link going around that the ny office was going to leak it either way, what you say would all make sense.
Im not sure how i feel about it but i wanted to point that out.
And even if parts of that theory are proved false it wouldnt mean that the part about Comey couldnt still hold water
Spot on.
My guess is other players have stepped in outside of DOJ that are applying some serious pressure, and/or this would have been FAR too obvious of total corruption at the FBI.
whyamihere
Banned
I don't care unless the White House communicated with the FBI on a private email server.
BlastProcessing
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There are no provisions for emergency presidential elections in the Constitution. It would take an amendment.
BlastProcessing
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The narrative that makes the most sense to me is a politically divided FBI. There are rumors that the NY Branch of the FBI wanted Clinton's head and was going to leak the Wiener email stuff for maximum damage. So Comey's hand is forced and he has to go public with it first.
Right now, I am operating under the assumption that Comedy is a hard core lifer lawman (with all of the pros and cons that come with that) who is a shitty politician who constantly found himself out maneuvered by Chafetz and members of his own Bureau.
whyamihere
Banned
I think this is right. The NY FBI office was out for blood and Comey thought he had no choice. Which was wrong, but.
Funkyhamster
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Yeah, I also think that Comey's hand was forced into sending the October letter. His actions during the Bush administration indicated that he wasn't a GOP stooge, and I see no reason that he would have changed in the intervening decade. Whatever his motives end up being, though, I am definitely looking forward to finding out (50 years from now when everything is declassified).
AnathemicOne
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I'm all for opposing the Trump administration but where the fuck was the FBI during the election? Oh yeah going after Clinton; fucking hypocrites.
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