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COD Xbox one will cloud for hosting dedicated servers
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poopninjamvc3mk
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ITT: People quickly assume XBONE is the definite version and PS4 has no dedicated servers.
GalacticMouse
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Agreed. I'll be surprised if Activision doesn't ensure dedicated servers on PS4 also. It's tough to split your user base THAT much to the point where one version performs significantly poorer than another version.
There have also been rumors that Sony is looking for a server-hosting partner to help third-parties have dedicated servers IIRC, so that could play a hand as well...
Sho_Nuff82
Member
Didn't MS spend literally billions to improve Azure infrastructure earlier this year? Some of that is obviously being set aside for Xbox.
BattleMonkey
Member
COD on PC with dedicated servers were far from lagless.
Goldenmoney
Member
Yea, now that I think about it, it's entirely possible that Microsoft paid Activision to not talk about dedicated servers on PS4 (or any other consoles) until after the game launches.
Probably also played a hand in them now charging for multiplayer.
Moon_frogger
Member
So here's my prediction: activision won't rent enough server space to keep up with demand, players will be allowed to connect to games nowhere near their region and the matches will be filled with lag. There will be zero preventivite measures so as long as people can connect and the game 'looks' ok nobody will complain
Future PhaZe
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the XBO version will be the definitive version for the competitive community , which is enough for me to play it on that platform dispite having an elite PC
looking forward to seeing shadowfall mp today to see if i'll get some competitive MP out of my ps4
looking forward to seeing shadowfall mp today to see if i'll get some competitive MP out of my ps4
Moon_frogger
Member
Activision could still provide dedicated servers for current gen versions....if they felt like it. But seeing as each cod game performs better than the last sales wise why would they? Consumers have spoken with their wallets and they are fine with p2p
it's not a bad assumption though. MS has heavily invested in dedicated server infrastructure. everyone made fun of "cloud cloud cloud", but this is part of that infrastructure in action.
Sony could have it too...they might, but they haven't talked much about it.
too much eslim
Member
Sony never even hinted at having dedicated servers for all games, yet you think all of sudden it will happen lol. Oh man MS was already the only system i was gaming online anyway so i will reap the benefits.
The idea of even paying Sony to play online was crazy knowing that MS is and will always be better at online play.
The idea of even paying Sony to play online was crazy knowing that MS is and will always be better at online play.
We will see at Today's Sony Gamescon conference if they will also announce dedicated servers for their COD version, but highly doubt it.
Dedicated server future on a console is a dream come true for gamers, COD: Ghost on the Xbox one leading the way!
too much eslim
Member
lol that is a waste of money. The idea of that is idiotic.They don't have to say exclusive because only the xbox one is using the cloud for dedicated servers. Sony never announced being able to do such a thing, and right now is far behind MS in terms of infrastructure.
No one ever said PS4 would have dedicated servers for all games. It's just possible, even likely, that Call of Duty will have dedicated servers on PS4.
Xbox One won't have dedicated servers for all games either, believe it or not.
You don't need a massive cloud infrastructure to run dedicated servers for a game. Sony has been running dedicated servers for many of their 1st-party PS3 games since 2006. Dedicated servers aren't some new, magical thing that only Microsoft can do.
Black Ops 1 has dedicated servers on PC, but not Black Ops 2. Otherwise I would probably have played the game a bit more then 10 hours in mp the lag compensation was aggravating to say the least.
Now that i look into it blops2 did have dedicated server. Wow that is some bad netcode right there.
shungokusatsu
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Sony isn't permitted to demo CoD footage at events, Activision has an agreement with Microsoft. There's no chance you will ever see anything CoD related at a Sony event aside from an exclusive (like declassified on vita) or CoD gameplay in a sizzle trailer.
SmoothRunningGun
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PS4 needs to match or this is an actual game-changer for many.
Iced_Eagle
Member
Great news! Now I'm really tempted to pick up COD as well. Haven't played it in years.
You really should thank yourself that you missed out on the past couple entries of COD. The series has seemingly gotten worse on a technical basis every year. The horrible lag compensation algorithm ruins the gameplay experience for many people; not even dedicated servers will solve that problem.
I would expect it to, since giving one version of the game completely different netcode than the others would mean more work on the part of the developers.
Also, I really doubt that access to dedicated servers is so difficult on PC and PS4 that they'd be forced to go P2P.
Goodacre0081
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so what's the difference between cloud servers and the regular servers we've been using for decades?
Sho_Nuff82
Member
I really doubt the PS360U versions will have dedicated servers. What would be the point at this stage?
That's the beauty of Azure it automatically scales up and demand due to demand, devs only get charged for what they use and for XB1 games they get it at a discount as well.
That's a beautiful thing, MS thoughtfully made the Azure system just for developers to take advantage of and gamers to enjoy.
Normally dedicated servers are just that, Activision would have to set up servers all over the world, some which may get hammered some not used at all. If a game becomes too popular the servers get overloaded.
The Cloud servers MS uses for Skydrive etc can automatically add and reduce resources on the fly and they are already based in all the major regions, if a game pans in Japan then devs dont need to pay for any server time, if the game becomes popular devs dont need to worry about not having enough servers Azure should cope.
too much eslim
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No, what I am trying to say is people can't assume Sony can match this because there is nothing to back that up. Nor can they assume because MS didn't say exclusive that it means something. People just can't stand the thought of MS having good news, and somewhat putting the PS4 in a negative light.
PS4 could possibly get dedicated servers if Activision does it, but that remains to be seen.
MS is allowing every game to have dedicated servers up to the third parties to use it.
Garrett 2U
Member
Megaton for FPS players, seriously
Activision's too cheap to not set a hard upper limit on how much bandwidth they use (i.e., putting a cap on how much money will come out of their pocket).
Battlefield has been using dedicated servers on consoles for over 8 years now. Since the early days of Xbox 360/PS3.
It is, millions of COD fans will rejoice at this news and will flock to the Xbox one version because of it. No host migrations or lag for a console COD game is just great news, lol at people to spin it in a negative way.
it's hard to see how they will compete if all the competition are offering it.
too much eslim
Member
MS is offering that option. Some games will need it some games will not.
NullPointer
Member
Which platform(s) get dedis?
Activision(or MS for that matter) will ensure that there are no issues where players cannot find games. To think otherwise is just silly.
Dedicated servers isn't a negative in and of itself. The negative is if (and it's a big if) for whatever reason the PC and/or PS4 versions don't get the same treatment, and a huge chunk of the fanbase gets the shaft.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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Truthfact.
But it's hardly activision's fault if Sony dont offer the same service and support as MS do.
For activision to set up dedicated servers for the biggest selling shooter COD for sony platforms would cost an absolute fortune.
shungokusatsu
Member
They've only confirmed xbone at this time. Fans have been asking nonstop on their tweet, but IW is ignoring them. what puzzles me even more is that no one from the press has inquired about it for other platforms.
If Microsoft is pushing to have them use these in their versions of the games and giving them free access to the Azure platform to do it, I think it far within the realm of possibility that we won't see dedicated servers on PC or PS3/PS4.
Important things about MS Azure "Cloud":
- It was not made just for XB1, it's been around for a while and was made to compete with Google and Amazon's cloud solutions.
- It was not made just for gaming, many forture 500 businesses use it.
- It is usable by anyone who pays for it (PS4/PC/iOS/etc.. devs included)
- It is not free for XB1 games, but XB1 devs get discount.
- XB1 games are not required/guaranteed to use it.
CassidyIzABeast
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I want to say PS4 will get dedis as well but if everybody was getting them they would have just announced it at the reveal last week.
This is the biggest part here. Renting out servers is stupidly expensive and sometimes not even worth it. If Microsoft is making this affordable and a viable option to all devs, then I think we could see a lot of games taking this route for the Xbox One.
You've missed out that MS are helping devs configure their games to work on it and are building it into their XB1 support
Garrett 2U
Member
Can't we just be happy about dedicated servers or does this have to be a fanboy war?
It's already the definite version for competitive players and casual players. Call of Duty championships (1 million$$$ in prizes) is sponsored by Xbox. Xbox gets DLC early. Xbox has dedicated servers.
It's looking like PS4 just has CoD :l
COD on PS4 will be fine. Yes, the COD Championships are sponsored by Xbox, but nothing stops Sony from sponsoring tournaments (like they did with Black Ops 1). Regardless, there will be LAN events, big and small, for both platforms.
And everyone is jumping the gun on the dedicated servers for Xbox One as an exclusive. Thus far, there has been zero confirmation that dedicated servers will be exclusive to Xbox One... not even from Infinity Ward or Activision.
CadetMahoney
Member
Pretty much, MS spent the money and had the forsight for Azure/cloud and will reap the benefits, don't see how it's a negative. It's business.
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