Captain Tuttle
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I don't think that's true, do you have a source?
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COD Xbox one will cloud for hosting dedicated servers
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scaryrobots
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Microsoft is subsidizing cloud utility for developersessentially, it will cost developers nothing to build on/access the Azure platform. So while I dont believe its mandatory for a title to offer dedicated servers, there wouldnt be any investment on the dev side to do so, which means Yup, dedicated servers for everything. (Certainly for marquee MP experiences like BF3/4, COD, Titanfall, Destiny, etc). This is a huge part of why persistent online world was such a buzzphrase at E3 this year.
http://videogamesandnews.com/xbox-one-multiplayer-features-dedicated-servers-smart-match-trd/
OldAsUrSock
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So does the PC Version also have dedicated servers?
If it still works like this:
Then it will still be a shitty experience and wont feel much different from P2P, especially if they add in the much hated lag compensation to "smooth things out". If there's no region filter or universal ping limits (server based as in nobody with a ping higher than 50 can join this server) then the experience wont be much different. The 'host advantage' will be spread out across multiple players. Some players will be ahead of you and others wont, instead of just 1 (the host).
It's pretty bad on the PC
scaryrobots
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Probably, but they won't be hosted by MS.
The PC version doesn't even need to wait for ghosts to have Dedicated Servers. It is lacking a server list though. Not sure if that is something The Xbone version will have.
This is a fantasy that Krilekk has. MS has said that devs can use the cloud f.ex. for dedicated servers, not that all Xbone online games would have dedicated servers. Publishers/developers are going to have to pay for all the cloud services they use - albeit MS subventing the process a little bit.
The source is a wired journalist. Not microsoft. I don't see why quoting it helps.
Captain Tuttle
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Yeah, I want MS to explain it to me like I'm a Seven year old, nice and clear with no ambiguity.
This COD business is only a good thing though and I doubt it'll be the only game that gets this treatment.
Why? MS will host the PC servers for Titanfall.
j0hnny_385
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Just go by your gut. Do you really think MS will bankroll EVERY SINGLE multiplayer XB1 game? 1st party and "selected value partners" of course (think Titanfall) but no way is every single getting free Azure VMs or any other "Cloud" benefits. If they pay up, sure.
Lol I don't know what tier I am lolll but I only live thereSo You're Tier 3/4 ? I imagine bringing any machine to your coutry must cost a lot
As the cost of import it would be around 100$ only with custom and everything just like my xbox 360 import charged me. Which is still cheaper than buying from black market. Ps3 here was aroind 1500$ whwn it came out
Kydd BlaZe
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Boom...well there it is.
Xbox One will be my console of choice for online multiplayer gaming. I'm pretty sure Battlefield 4, Titanfall, and Halo 5 will follow suit.
Xbox One will be my console of choice for online multiplayer gaming. I'm pretty sure Battlefield 4, Titanfall, and Halo 5 will follow suit.
Battlefield 3 already has dedicated servers on both consoles this generation and the new Halo is confirmed to have them.
test_account
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This is not confirmed as far as i know.
Uno Venova
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Is this a PR thing or are they really going to use Dedi's on only one console? Probably not.
It isn't. Besides, smaller scaled games do not need dedicated servers and would be silly.
MS most likely gave them a significant discount (free?) on their Azure network and Activison went for it. They can go for parity on the PS4 if given the incentive, I'm sure.
Battlefield always had dedicated servers for all consoles,
test_account
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True. I also think that they said "support for dedicated servers" regarding Call of Duty, that is mostly what i'm wondering about. It doesnt seem clear to me that every single COD online match will run on dedicated servers.
ExoHazMatt
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dragonelite
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Hell yeah dedicated servers ftw.
Boo at people saying this is not important..
Boo at people saying this is not important..
I don't expect it to be much less than Battlefield 3 on consoles. IIRC, it had them for every game and allowed people to rent out servers with user control. In any case, it's not impossible to do so.
EscoBlades
Ubisoft Marketing
TechnicPuppet
Nothing! I said nothing!
I thought Azure was just about everywhere.
RukusProvider
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Boom! As with current gen, XB1 will be the place for online gaming.
Hopefully Activision and/or Sony wise-up, and announce dedicated servers for the PS4 version also. For them to give HALF their loyal fanbase the shaft in terms of gameplay features is simply unprecedented in its vileness.
Timed DLC is one thing, but when the core gameplay experience is significantly differentiated on one platform, that's the final straw. This type of alienation of a player base should be a PR nightmare, and it shouldn't be rewarded.
Timed DLC is one thing, but when the core gameplay experience is significantly differentiated on one platform, that's the final straw. This type of alienation of a player base should be a PR nightmare, and it shouldn't be rewarded.
I'd be shocked if there wasn't dedicated servers for the PS4 too, given that Microsoft did not tout this as an exclusive feature. If you don't hear "exclusive", 99% of the time it isn't.
Remember, Ubisoft, EA and Activision (with Destiny) host their own dedicated servers, so I don't see why they couldn't here either.
Pinko Marx
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Can we stop this please? Seriously. It doesn't even work in this context.
Captain Tuttle
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Well I'm a "glass half full kind of guy" but no, I don't think that every single game will have dedicated servers. I don't think that every game needs them. The way I read this is that MS have made incorporating dedicated servers into a game extremely easy, literally plug and play. And yes, I think money will be involved but I suspect that it will be competitive with other options, especially considering the ease of use that I suspect MS's Azure will bring to the table.
dragonbane
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TitanFall dev already said dedicated servers are not for free, just discounted.
EscoBlades
Ubisoft Marketing
Well as i posted above, it seems MS slipped in the word exclusive either in confidence, or as an initial smokescreen. Its a loaded enough word that they have been using a lot in the xbox One reveal plans that i don't see them making such a mistake (assuming there will be dedicated servers on PS4 as well)
Maximilian Kolbe
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People still don't know it's not MS choose which game can have dedicated servers,it's developers/publishers choose they use dedicated servers or not?
This will likely set the precedent for all future installations of Call of Duty, and PS4 will most likely be forced follow suit for COD 2014 at the very latest.
Still, it would be a pretty big blow if even just Ghosts didn't have dedicated servers on PS4.
Hopefully, that's not the case, as Sony surely must have seen this coming; dedicated servers isn't something that you just throw into the code about 2 months before launch, so Microsoft/Activision must have had this planned for a good while. It's not like dedicated servers for one game would be extremely difficult to do, either; Sony has hosted dedicated servers on numerous PS3 games since 2006. So if they don't do it for COD: Ghosts ASAP (or if they haven't already done it), then it would be a huge mistake.
Still, it would be a pretty big blow if even just Ghosts didn't have dedicated servers on PS4.
Hopefully, that's not the case, as Sony surely must have seen this coming; dedicated servers isn't something that you just throw into the code about 2 months before launch, so Microsoft/Activision must have had this planned for a good while. It's not like dedicated servers for one game would be extremely difficult to do, either; Sony has hosted dedicated servers on numerous PS3 games since 2006. So if they don't do it for COD: Ghosts ASAP (or if they haven't already done it), then it would be a huge mistake.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=76453191&postcount=1295
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The fact that IW said during the multiplayer reveal they will talk about dedicated servers "later" led me to believe it was a thing that they couldn't confirm yet or was still being worked on. Otherwise, they would have outright denied dedicated servers at the multiplayer reveal event.
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The fact that IW said during the multiplayer reveal they will talk about dedicated servers "later" led me to believe it was a thing that they couldn't confirm yet or was still being worked on. Otherwise, they would have outright denied dedicated servers at the multiplayer reveal event.
For all we know, MS may very well just be using the phrase "exclusive multiplayer features" to tout the supposed "superiority" of their Azure cloud over other "plain" implementations of dedicated servers. If there's any glimmer of hope that the "exclusive features" phrasing isn't referencing dedicated servers in and of itself, it's the fact that COD: Ghosts will almost assuredly have that feature on PC as well; thus the word "exclusive" doesn't really apply here.
Dedicated servers don't really help ping/latency. It won't speed up the time it takes your packets to cross oceans. Dedicated servers are more about consistency. Less likely you'll get lag spikes etc.
ExoHazMatt
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And hopefully no more host migration BS. Which would be great because more times than not the game would just kick everyone out anyway, rather than actually migrating to another host and continuing.
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