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College Football Week 4: Moonwalking to the Endzone

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Affeinvasion said:
You guys are all haters...that shit's hilarious. Also A&M will be fine in the SEC. I think you're going to see some kids who want to stay in Texas but also play in the SEC heading their way.
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Please, please STFU with the "haters" argument. We're simply pointing out the obvious--that Aggy has been less-than-stellar in the Big 12 for years, and there's no reason to think they'll magically become a power program in the toughest conference in America.

The recruiting hierarchy in Texas will stay roughly the same.

Texas gets their pick of whoever they want and fills their class super-early.
OU gets most of the kids they want and a few that got overlooked by UT.

The leftovers go to OSU, A&M, or Tech, with a premium on evaluating potential and developing talent--which OSU has shown to be FAR better than A&M and Tech at doing.
 
Jeff-DSA said:
Can you take 1-AA teams out of the equation?
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Wikipedia doesn't differentiate!

StoOgE said:
Unless you think Big Sherm is the answer, I think Aggy is in the middle of just such a coaching issue right now since RC left.

They are also going to head into the SEC next year pretty depleted at most key positions.
Had they joined the SEC this year they would probably still lose 3-4 games, but would be competitive in most games.. next year could be much rougher.
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Too early to say how they'd fair next year. This year, they'd lose more than 3-4 games.

Next year, Alabama will slide some. There are going to be ALOT of Early departures.
I think the same story for LSU.
Arkansas's going to lose some of those WR's, which is about the only thing they have.
Auburn "should" be better.
I figure Miss State will decline (I know, it's not like they lived up to preseason expectations this year).
Ole Miss will be in the middle of a coaching change.

KingGondo said:
Please, please STFU with the "haters" argument. We're simply pointing out the obvious--that Aggy has been less-than-stellar in the Big 12 for years, and there's no reason to think they'll magically become a power program in the toughest conference in America.

The recruiting hierarchy in Texas will stay roughly the same.

Texas gets their pick of whoever they want and fills their class super-early.
OU gets most of the kids they want and a few that got overlooked by UT.

The leftovers go to OSU, A&M, or Tech, with a premium on evaluating potential and developing talent--which OSU has shown to be FAR better than A&M and Tech at doing.
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I would say this could be incorrect. NO one knows how the recruiting breakdown will unfold from here on out, because Texas and A&M have never been separated like this, until now.

It's not going to end up 100% exactly the same. There will be some difference.
 
Lonestar said:
Too early to say how they'd fair next year. This year, they'd lose more than 3-4 games.

Next year, Alabama will slide some. There are going to be ALOT of Early departures.
I think the same story for LSU.
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Next year could be rough on both sides of the ball. If McElwaine leaves we might be better served getting a more aggressive OC (as if Saban would relinquish that much control) and let AJ air it out to the young receivers we have.
 
Cyan said:
Man, still no new thread.

I... guess I can throw something together. *grumble, grumble*
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Some kind of Aggy joke in the title would be appreciated.

College Football Week 5: Storing up Bitterness... in a Mason Jar.
 
StoOgE said:
Unless you think Big Sherm is the answer
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He's not what I'd want for my head coach but he's solid enough. With the addition of DeRuyter to their staff they've shored up the defensive side of the ball considerably. They're just fine on the coaching side. They don't have Saban on the sidelines but they're nowhere near the worst coaching staff in the SEC. I don't think their staff develops talent as well as a top tier coaching staff would/should but there are plenty of big programs out there that don't develop talent as well as they should.
 
mre said:
Next year could be rough on both sides of the ball. If McElwaine leaves we might be better served getting a more aggressive OC (as if Saban would relinquish that much control) and let AJ air it out to the young receivers we have.
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There are 2 or 3 freshman WR's that'll be done with Redshirts by then (Shinn/Woodson/Slyve) and Alabama's picked up 2 or 3 great ones this year (I doubt we get DHB or whatever his name is, the #1 WR).

Should get Hart back (hope to 100%) and Lacy. O-Line will have changes, unless Jones stays for his Senior Year. New Center for sure, but CK will be starting by then.

Lots of good LB's behind Upshaw, Hightower, and Harris. But still, Upshaw and Hightower :(

DL? We have no superstars now, we won't have any next year.

But the DB's...

It'll be Millner and Ha Ha...and who? Luck into having Lester or Dre come back? Minimal chance.
 
Lonestar said:
Too early to say how they'd fair next year. This year, they'd lose more than 3-4 games.
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They are going to have to go with a true Sophomore QB next year, lose one of their RBs (maybe both if a move to the NFL happens) and both starting DEs... on top of an already shaky secondary.
 
Sirpopopop said:
Blame mre!

It was his responsibility to do the new thread. HE FAILED!
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Wait a minute. Last time I made the thread ya'lls check bounced. My time is valuable!
 
Jhriad said:
He's not what I'd want for my head coach but he's a solid enough head coach. With the addition of DeRuyter to their staff they've shored up the defensive side of the ball considerably. They're just fine on the coaching side. They don't have Saban on the sidelines but they're nowhere near the worst coaching staff in the SEC. I don't think their staff develops talent as well as a top tier coaching staff would but there are plenty of big programs out there that don't develop talent as well as they should.
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You are talking about the coach who had a 3 score lead in the 3rd quarter, averaging 6 yards per run against a defense who is soft up the middle and decided the answer was to line up 5 wide empty backfield and throw at one of the better secondaries in the Big 12. Their gameplan in the 2nd half was as assinine as I've ever seen, and if Blackomon didn't go completely stupid the game would have turned into a route as a result.

As a Packers fan, I can tell you Big Sherm is a complete and total idiot. And not in a Les Miles funny kind of way. In a 4th and 26 let's play a soft cover 2 and not drop a 3rd defender back to defend the middle of the field heartbreaking kind of way.
 
Lonestar said:
There are 2 or 3 freshman WR's that'll be done with Redshirts by then (Shinn/Woodson/Slyve) and Alabama's picked up 2 or 3 great ones this year (I doubt we get DHB or whatever his name is, the #1 WR).

Should get Hart back (hope to 100%) and Lacy. O-Line will have changes, unless Jones stays for his Senior Year. New Center for sure, but CK will be starting by then.

Lots of good LB's behind Upshaw, Hightower, and Harris. But still, Upshaw and Hightower :(

DL? We have no superstars now, we won't have any next year.

But the DB's...

It'll be Millner and Ha Ha...and who? Luck into having Lester or Dre come back? Minimal chance.
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Nobody with experience. Sunseri at safety, for sure.
 
StoOgE said:
This is true... and part of Arkys problem was all of their recruiting base was in Texas and they couldn't get a marquee matchup in the state. Playing better teams + recruiting ineptitude is a recipe for a rough transition.

Aggy should be given the same 1, 2 punch.
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A&M will still have marquee match-ups when they play ranked SEC teams at home. Less rivalry hype, but they'll still get prime TV coverage.

Unless you meant intra-state matchup, but if that's the case, UT won't have them either unless you think TT or Baylor are going to become perennial powers. And A&M could probably work out an OOC game against TCU if they were really pressed.

Neither scenario was possible for Arkansas.
 
Lonestar said:
There are 2 or 3 freshman WR's that'll be done with Redshirts by then (Shinn/Woodson/Slyve) and Alabama's picked up 2 or 3 great ones this year (I doubt we get DHB or whatever his name is, the #1 WR).

Should get Hart back (hope to 100%) and Lacy. O-Line will have changes, unless Jones stays for his Senior Year. New Center for sure, but CK will be starting by then.

Lots of good LB's behind Upshaw, Hightower, and Harris. But still, Upshaw and Hightower :(

DL? We have no superstars now, we won't have any next year.

But the DB's...

It'll be Millner and Ha Ha...and who? Luck into having Lester or Dre come back? Minimal chance.
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You guys may have some dropoff but you have enough elite talent behind the guys that will be leaving that you should be okay. Maybe not win the West great, but should be up there again. That elite talent won't have the experience that all your starters have may mean you drop a couple games.

One thing I'm happy to see develop at UGA is two recruits that we battled Bama for; Malcolm Mitchell and Isaiah Crowell have turned into our two top offensive weapons (aside from Murray). And they're both only true freshmen, they should be much improved next season. We've also got a good receiver in redshirt freshman, Michael Bennett, who seems to be our go to guy in the middle of the field with very reliable fans, and works hard for yards after catch. Mitchell is our deep threat that we used to have in AJ Green.
 
andycapps said:
You guys may have some dropoff but you have enough elite talent behind the guys that will be leaving that you should be okay. Maybe not win the West great, but should be up there again.

One thing I'm happy to see develop at UGA is two recruits that we battled Bama for; Malcolm Mitchell and Isaiah Crowell have turned into our two top offensive weapons (aside from Murray). And they're both only true freshmen, they should be much improved next season. We've also got a good receiver in redshirt freshman, Michael Bennett, who seems to be our go to guy in the middle of the field with very reliable fans, and works hard for yards after catch. Mitchell is our deep threat that we used to have in AJ Green.
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If you can get a player that Alabama/Saban really tries to get, know that they'll probably turn out pretty great.

Everyone always gets the "5 star HS player who ends up a dud", but his ratio of Boom and Bust has been pretty outstanding. For every BJ Scott, there's been 3 or 4 Mark Ingram's.
 
Lonestar said:
If you can get a player that Alabama/Saban really tries to get, know that they'll probably turn out pretty great.

Everyone always gets the "5 star HS player who ends up a dud", but his ratio of Boom and Bust has been pretty outstanding. For every BJ Scott, there's been 3 or 4 Mark Ingram's.
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This is very true, Saban is a genius, I'll admit that. And I'll be saying "Roll Tiiiide PAWWWWLL" along with you guys on Saturday. Beat the shit out of the Gators and Muschamp and I'll be rooting for you guys the rest of the way, unless we end up playing you in the championship game (a miracle).
 
KingGondo said:
Please, please STFU with the "haters" argument. We're simply pointing out the obvious--that Aggy has been less-than-stellar in the Big 12 for years, and there's no reason to think they'll magically become a power program in the toughest conference in America.

The recruiting hierarchy in Texas will stay roughly the same.

Texas gets their pick of whoever they want and fills their class super-early.
OU gets most of the kids they want and a few that got overlooked by UT.

The leftovers go to OSU, A&M, or Tech, with a premium on evaluating potential and developing talent--which OSU has shown to be FAR better than A&M and Tech at doing.
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Interesting that your FAR better talent development has resulted in a lower average finish than both Tech AND A&M through the life of the Big XII. ;)
 
KingGondo said:
Please, please STFU with the "haters" argument. We're simply pointing out the obvious--that Aggy has been less-than-stellar in the Big 12 for years, and there's no reason to think they'll magically become a power program in the toughest conference in America.

The recruiting hierarchy in Texas will stay roughly the same.

Texas gets their pick of whoever they want and fills their class super-early.
OU gets most of the kids they want and a few that got overlooked by UT.

The leftovers go to OSU, A&M, or Tech, with a premium on evaluating potential and developing talent--which OSU has shown to be FAR better than A&M and Tech at doing.
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Interesting that your FAR better talent development has resulted in a lower average finish than both Tech AND A&M through the life of the Big XII. ;)
 
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