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Confirmed by Nintendo: All characters in Smash Bros. are just toys that came to life
- Thread starter KHlover
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Hmm...Temper tantrum?
Finale Fireworker
Member
Love the idea of busting long-standing Nintendo mysteries like:
1. How do Link, Zelda, and Ganondorf appear in so many games without aging? Why do they always seem not to know each other? This just doesn't make sense.
2. Why does a Lakitu follow Mario around in Super Mario 64? What purpose does he fulfill? This just doesn't make sense.
3. Why can't Metroid crawl? This just doesn't make sense.
4. Why are Wario and Waluigi named so similarly to Mario and Luigi? Why Ws? Why not Dark Mario and Dark Luigi? This just doesn't make sense.
5. Why does James McCloud look just like Fox McCloud in sunglasses? What is there relationship? Did he know Fox's dead father? This just doesn't make sense.
1. How do Link, Zelda, and Ganondorf appear in so many games without aging? Why do they always seem not to know each other? This just doesn't make sense.
2. Why does a Lakitu follow Mario around in Super Mario 64? What purpose does he fulfill? This just doesn't make sense.
3. Why can't Metroid crawl? This just doesn't make sense.
4. Why are Wario and Waluigi named so similarly to Mario and Luigi? Why Ws? Why not Dark Mario and Dark Luigi? This just doesn't make sense.
5. Why does James McCloud look just like Fox McCloud in sunglasses? What is there relationship? Did he know Fox's dead father? This just doesn't make sense.
These are the jokes, people.
evilromero
Member
Source: time.com
Interesting. Another debate laid to rest. Also a conveniant justification for future 3rd party characters. Toys don't have to be from the same manufacturer after all
Turn into toy statue if old.
Debate? It was clearly shown during the introduction in Smash 64 and Melee. How is there even a debate?
Lakitu is probably a pervert and at the very least a stalker. Dude just hangs around without being invited.
SuperLeviathan
Member
Did they come under fire for the slapstick violence in the games? This just seems so random (since the fact is so explicit in the games themselves) a thing to say, unless they were on the defensive.
There are friendly Lakitu (like the one in the Mario Kart games). Or, given how terrible the camera is in Mario 64, maybe he's there to sabotage you.
There are friendly Lakitu (like the one in the Mario Kart games). Or, given how terrible the camera is in Mario 64, maybe he's there to sabotage you.
Finale Fireworker
Member
Actually, what if... Mario is actually in a coma the whole time? Or what if Mario DIED?
NO, PEACH is the one who died! Mario is running around the empty castle dealing with his grief! The Lakitu is grief!
ThaneKrios
Banned
Yes, I saw the intro in the first one.
Mario enter the shared dream world of Subcon in Mario 2. What happened to the invader King Wart when Mario woke up?
Beelzebufo
Banned
But what about Pit in Uprising?
This. I personally often thought that characters 'return' to their world once they become a trophy, though that would still go against the 'Mario isn't really beating up Pikachu' philosophy.
evilromero
Member
The Lone Courier
Member
That's way too normal of a theory for Game Theory.
Levathian is saying its a random statement to make since it was obvious this was a thing to begin with.
I need to go lie down. What is real?
Lightning is real. She lives in France apparently.
Probably not going to be a popular opinion but even though this has been the case the whole time, it's always been really lame and kind of a waste of crossover potential. Like, it diminishes the cool factor of Mario fighting Sonic if it's not actually Mario and not actually Sonic, you know?
Iva Demilcol
Member
Shocking news.
haha almost started answering all of these until I saw the spoiler... I was like "I'm pretty sure these have all be answered" haha got me GOOD
You mean all those Newgrounds videos of Mario fighting Sonic weren't the real deal?
Beelzebufo
Banned
What about Pit and Palutena in Smash 4? Snake in Brawl? Is it any less damaging to the integrity of the characters (lol) when the "toy come to life" versions of the characters have the exact same memories and personalities of their "real" counterparts?
Or from another perspective, who is making a Mario toy that looks so angry? Why? What makes assist trophies and Pokeballs less alive? Is the lava and fire at the bottom of castle siege fake fire come to life? Who would make such a thing?
Or from another perspective, who is making a Mario toy that looks so angry? Why? What makes assist trophies and Pokeballs less alive? Is the lava and fire at the bottom of castle siege fake fire come to life? Who would make such a thing?
It can still be real in your head!
smh
A child's mind, duh.
The shadow bugs are demons of the past, when videogames/figurines were much more of a taboo.
balladofwindfishes
Member
How does a Game and Watch plushy even work?
Beelzebufo
Banned
And why does the toy game and watch release shadow bugs that create demons once it comes to life?
That doesn't make it any less troubling. Couldn't the child also imagine playing as the actual characters rather than toys of the characters come to life? Pit's memories from Smash carry into the games as well, so even this imaginary toy version of himself affects him in some way. For all intents and purposes, the real Pit and real Snake are fighting in these games. If they think and act the same, who are you to say they aren't real?
It's also worth noting that since this child requires the toys to imagine adventures about him that they are not completely in control of the situation. These toys have minds of their own once they come to life, and Subspace demons and Taboo can actually harm Master Hand and interact with him as well, so there's clearly more going on than just an overactive imagination. We're talking about toys literally coming to life.
Gentleman Jack
Member
Acerac
Banned
Note there was no GW in the N64 version.
That's why they changed from plushies to figures.
SMASH LORE YO.
You got it now. A fantasy of a fantasy is still a fantasy.
Beelzebufo
Banned
Exactly, right? So why make the distinction in the first place? This is just as harmful to character integrity, which is a really important thing to maintain. I'm surprised concerned parents and fans aren't more upset about the aggregious violations of character motivations taking place here, toys or not.
Just play with your toys, kid.
It is just a meta layer to prevent nerds from hurting themselves or something.
"Something" being maintaining a family-friendly image.
spyroflame0487
Member
Initially it was just dolls. Then a malevolent company got wind of a great idea and produced toys of those characters for everyone to play with.
But then the dark times came, and those statue toys would have to fight to the death, for fear of being turned back to toys.
Now that they have broken the curse, the characters are free to live their lives as they want, and fight with whoever they want.
We live in Smash's world. Nintendo to trap people in toys circa 2017 confirmed.
They already sorted that out back in 2011.
Finale Fireworker
Member
The Hyrule Historia timeline, official or not, doesn't make sense. If a timeline was created just because Link failed to stop Ganondorf, which canonically did not happen, then there would be at least two timelines branching out of every single Zelda game.
That said, the dual timeline theory doesn't obey Ocarina's own rules of time travel. So nothing makes sense.
Hyrule is the Wind Fish's dream.
Finale Fireworker
Member
Coma theory rings true again!
Although it was pretty obvious from the N64 intro, the whole invitation-themed promotional material for Smash 4 seems like it drops this theme. Like, Villager "getting a letter" then running off to Smash Brothers land doesn't really have anything to do with toys come to life.
Of course, the Awkward Zombie version where they all sort of work for Master Hand in one big clubhouse will always be the real canon to me.
Of course, the Awkward Zombie version where they all sort of work for Master Hand in one big clubhouse will always be the real canon to me.
sixteen-bit
Member
You think they would ever make articulated amiibos?
balladofwindfishes
Member
This doesn't explain how Smash character traits and experiences translate to the base game. Like "Smash" Kirby, Kirby's Master Hand Boss, the way Fountain of Dreams looks, Bowser being able to retreat into his shell and spin, the Falcon Punch in the F-Zero Anime, Pit knowing about Smash, Roy, Marth and Ike teaming up in FE:A, the Greninja released in Japan knowing his 4 Smash moves, plus all the trophies explaining in Smash universe stuff like how Ness knows PSI powers he can't learn and the invitation Villager got in the mail.
And what about cut characters, does Master Hand Kid lose the toy or something?
And what about cut characters, does Master Hand Kid lose the toy or something?
lol, this isn't a serious post
ActuallyHulk
Banned
I-I thought everyone knew this already...