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[GinoFelino]

Can someone explain to me the business reasons for doing this? Literally everyone I know who HAD a PS4 Pro pre-ordered (only 3) have since cancelled because they just have no idea what the concrete, confirmed benefits are for specific games both old and new games upcoming. None of them have 4k TV's. Some of them who were on the fence haven't mentioned it in a while so I assume they have no intention of getting one.

Now if a new trailer came out detailing and showing some old games, new games, upcoming titles, and showing the benefits beyond 4k and HDR, that could really get them to jump back in. I just don't understand why this hasn't been done. I know they still have time to do it, but it seems odd to wait so long.

The business reasons = PSVR, I think. It released less than two weeks ago. You generally want the media to focus on your latest and greatest, and perhaps they thought too much focus on the Pro would make consumers confused about the relation between the two.

The embargo will probably expire soon though.

 

[Raven77]

The business reasons = PSVR, I think. You generally want the media to focus on your latest and greatest, and perhaps they thought too much focus on the Pro would make consumers confused about the relation between the two.

The embargo will probably expire soon though.

Good point, it's also possible that they didn't want PSVR to seem "coupled" with the PS4 Pro and for consumers to start to think they had to get both, dropping nearly $1,000 dollars.

 

[FlutterPuffs]

Can someone explain to me the business reasons for doing this? Literally everyone I know who HAD a PS4 Pro pre-ordered (only 3) have since cancelled because they just have no idea what the concrete, confirmed benefits are for specific games both old and new games upcoming. None of them have 4k TV's. Some of them who were on the fence haven't mentioned it in a while so I assume they have no intention of getting one.

Now if a new trailer came out detailing and showing some old games, new games, upcoming titles, and showing the benefits beyond 4k and HDR, that could really get them to jump back in. I just don't understand why this hasn't been done. I know they still have time to do it, but it seems odd to wait so long.

Probably so Sony can do one big push where they showcase the improvements.

Right now I reckon Sony's marketing is still focused on the PSVR.

 

[GinoFelino]

Good point, it's also possible that they didn't want PSVR to seem "coupled" with the PS4 Pro and for consumers to start to think they had to get both, dropping nearly $1,000 dollars.

Yeah, that'd be my guess. They're probably right to make that move, too.

It's way more important for the future of the platform to have more day 1 sales for PSVR than it is to have significant day 1 PS4 Pro sales.

PS4 Pro will sell itself, eventually, when people start to see and read about the differences between it and the OG PS4. Its future is basically already guaranteed.

 

[Wishmaster92]

...All of this talk of supersampling, at 1080:

Can someone post a visual comparison for how a game looks with and without this supersampling? Same with a VR image, so I can see a visual representation?

I don't get it.

There's no real 1:1 comparison out yet but you can tell a major difference in iq even though the ps4 pro image is from the youtube video and the ps4 screen is a direct capture. Even then the pro image looks much cleaner.

 

[Marvel]

Need that BF1 boost.

Can't wait.

 

[Spiral Insanity]

Did Bungie say anything regarding Destiny? Or can't we expect meaningful improvements due to it being always online?

 

[Coolbgdog12]

What resolution does the cinema screen display at on the PSVR? I'd be happy if that was improved on the pro.

 

[Arttemis]

Is there not a 'games journalist' or publication out there asking all the publishers about their stance on updating their released games? This seems like a list that IGN, Eurogamer, or Polygon would have published.

 

[Shadylunchbox]

Really hope they open up about this console soon, I'll get one if BB or Dark Souls 3 gets a patch. 2k17 is getting one? That's great news.

 

[Always-honest]

Don't forget they're adding in the Driveclub VR tracks to the base game as well. It's likely they'll add in PS4 Pro support in the same update.

Really? Didn't know that.

 

[Ozorov]

Add Knack to the list )

 

[Harlock]

Add Knack to the list )

Now we going to know how PS2 games on 4K looks.

 

[Metfanant]

Is FIFA getting its patch day 1? I thought I remember EA saying that

 

[TheWorthyEdge]

Now we going to know how PS2 games on 4K looks.

Well this was unwarranted.

 

[woahitsshant]

Does anyone know if Titanfall 2 will support HDR at launch? That way, those of us with an HDR TV can see benefits prior to the launch of the Pro.

 

[SHarris78]

Any news on what the Skyrim patch will do? Is it just 4K or will there be improvements for standard HDTVs?

 

[voodoowoolf]

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[SpecX]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1275697

I thought there was already a thread like this.

 

[adamsapple]

I've got a 4k TV so I may trade in my ps4 for a pro. Was just wondering would it look better to play in 4K or make it 1080 with enhancements?

If the game supports 4K (or higher resolution with checkerboarding) I imagine that would make more sense. 1080p with enhanced effects will still be a 1080p buffer and will show a lot more aliasing on your 4K display.

From what we know, games which support higher resolution and also 1080p enhancements default to higher resolutions.

 

[Oneself]

Now we going to know how PS2 games on 4K looks.

You should play the game before commenting on its graphics capabilities.

 

[Aces&Eights]

Lawd, just a little over 2 weeks away now. Love that it's releasing the day before a 3 day weekend here in the states. Just gotta decide what game I want to play first (after dark souls 3 dlc). Think I'm gonna go for Tomb Raider. Sounds like that thing is gonna run and look great on the Pro.

 

[farisr]

Playstation VR Worlds already has the Pro update out.

 

[Ozorov]

Playstation VR Worlds already has the Pro update out.

I wonder if the demo(s) at PSN will get some update?

 

[nycgamer4ever]

Now we going to know how PS2 games on 4K looks.

Knack actually looks light years ahead of Ps2 games bro. What's your point?

 

[DAREALGUMMY]

I was going to say I'm shocked by Fallout 4 not being there...but then I shouldn't be.

 

[Danny Dudekisser]

Honestly, that lineup could scarcely be any less compelling.


I want to want this thing, Sony, but you've got to work with me here.

 

[x-Lundz-x]

ROTTR will be the first game in my PS4Pro, and it will be glorious.

 

[black070]

I was going to say I'm shocked by Fallout 4 not being there...but then I shouldn't be.

Fallout 4's confirmed to recieve a patch.

 

[chadskin]

We've had a thread on this in the past but the OP has since been banned: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1275697

Uncharted 4
The Last of Us Remastered
Infamous: Second Son
Infamous: First Light
Deus Ex: Mankind Divided
Middle Earth: Shadow of Mordor
Paragon
Call of Duty: Black Ops 3
FIFA 17 (Confirmed by EA during the PlayStation Meeting)
Fallout 4
Elder Scrolls Online
Futuridium
The Witness
PES 2017
NBA 2K17
Mafia 3
Ratchet & Clank

+ Knack
+ Bound

 

[Z3M0G]

I don't believe Knack is confirmed yet, it was simply used as a demonstration.

hopefully framerate

Framerate is not solid 60? I'm shocked...

Is it currently 900p like BF4?

 

[TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared]

I'd have bought rise of the tombraider already, but its already come down in price and I think it'll go cheaper on black friday. If I can get IW/COD 4 for a decent price I'll be all over that as well.

 

[Kremzeek]

Had there been any news about a Pro patch for FF14, and what that entails?

 

[CaptainSmirnov]

For some reason I assumed all of these games would have HDR, why did I get my hopes up

Unless they just include HDR when they say "enhancements"

 

[MrMatt555]

No The Order, eh?

 

[gzero]

Could we also please keep track of enhancements for regular PS4s, seen as though they're HDR ready as well

I've been holding off playing UC4 until we hear if its getting a HDR patch for regular PS4s

I've been looking for more information on this too. Just bought a 4K HDR capable TV, so upgrading from PS4 to PS4 Pro isn't in the budget right now.

 

[Broadbandito]

Shadows of Mordor already got it's patch

 

[Gitaroo]

does the last of us have a checkerboard 4K @ 60fps?

 

[Heckler456]

does the last of us have a checkerboard 4K @ 60fps?

The only version that has been talked about is native 4K/30fps

 

[Coolbgdog12]

does the last of us have a checkerboard 4K @ 60fps?

Native

 

[Servbot24]

what kind of improvements should we expect?
4K resolution or 1080p/60fps?

You should never expect either of these, aside from some indie games.

 

[Atolm]

Had there been any news about a Pro patch for FF14, and what that entails?

I wouldn't expect it before the Stormblood expansion tbh.

 

[SinCityAssassin]

I would certainly hope so.

 

[Nesther]

Glad I preordered it. Cant wait to see the difference in Mankind Divided, have been taking my time with that one. Plus all the VR stuff.
That way I'm not gonna miss out on playing XV the best way either.

 

[Palmer27]

Will 4k games run on 1080p screens supersampled by default, or is this up to devs to implement?

 

[Heckler456]

Will 4k games run on 1080p screens supersampled by default, or is this up to devs to implement?

This has not been officially confirmed either way.

 

[Chris_Rivera]

BF1 patch would be great. Might hold off on buying until then.

Sucks about Destiny. Bungie probably doesn't want to agitate the masses with such luxuries.

 

[Movalpolos]

Would really like to have a thread or something dedicated to enhancements on 1080 TVs but I guess we'll have to wait on that

 

[Heckler456]

Would really like to have a thread or something dedicated to enhancements on 1080 TVs but I guess we'll have to wait on that

There have been discussions on that, and there is some information out there on what a small amount of specific games will offer. But in terms of what the PS4 Pro will offer in equivalence to what 4K(HDR) seems to be on the 4K tv's side of things, nothing is really crystal clear. That is to say, 4K checkboarded seems to be the bare minimum of effort that's required of developers, but it doesn't seem to be clear that the same goes for downsampling.

 

[DAREALGUMMY]

Fallout 4's confirmed to recieve a patch.

I know, I just meant being there day 1.