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Yes. I don't think portable will help at all. 'Japan loves portable', no, Japan loves games. If their beloved games are in a portable console, they will buy that portable, because the console is the barrier between japanese folks and their games.
So why didn't Japan buy the Wii U in droves? Was Mario Kart 8 that much worse than...Mario Kart 8?
 
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Nah, I don't think will help, unless games.

Brand loyalte is still a thing in Japan, Playstation needs more than a portable to change things up.
The games are going to be there… I am not saying is going to surpass Nintendo, but is going help a lot. But the more important aspect is the price, but looks like Sony learned the lesson.
 
So why didn't Japan buy the Wii U in droves? Was Mario Kart 8 that much worse than...Mario Kart 8?

Brand loyalty. I mention in my second reply.


If the brand loyalte gets down, low numbers of people will migrate to the next console will happen. Sony are still trying to make PS4 users migrate to PS5 ecosystem.

Remember, Switch to Switch 2 migrate rate was 80%, far more than most of the consoles around.

The games are going to be there… I am not saying is going to surpass Nintendo, but is going help a lot. But the more important aspect is the price, but looks like Sony learned the lesson.

We need a better definition of games. What type of games do you think will be at PS6 portable?
To appeal to the western market or to appeal to the japanese market?

Or are you talking about BC catalogue?
 
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Yes. I don't think portable will help at all. 'Japan loves portable', no, Japan loves games. If their beloved games are in a portable console, they will buy that portable, because the console is the barrier between japanese folks and their games.
Sony never learns. They think they can get by with copying Nintendo's form factor and then forget about the kinds of games they like in Japan. Wouldn't be surprised to see Sony release PS6 as a hybrid system, but try to give Japan games like Battlefield and Marathon, or Bugsnax 2 etc.

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Sony never learns. They think they can get by with copying Nintendo's form factor and then forget about the kinds of games they like in Japan. Wouldn't be surprised to see Sony release PS6 as a hybrid system, but try to give Japan games like Battlefield and Marathon, or Bugsnax 2 etc.

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Is already leaked. Is going to happen.
 
Brand loyalte. I mention in my second reply.


If the brand loyalte gets down, low numbers of people will migrate to the next console will happen. Sony are still trying to make PS4 users migrate to PS5 ecosystem.

Remember, Switch to Switch 2 migrate rate was 80%, far more than most of the consoles around.



We need a better definition of games. What type of games do you think will be at PS6 portable?
To appeal to the western market or to appeal to the japanese market?

Or are you talking about BC catalogue?
You didn't answer anything. Wii and DS were supremely popular in Japan. Nintendo was not lacking in brand loyalty when Wii U released.
 
Totally different situation, the Vita issue was the games because Sony did have the workforce to support two systems, and hybrid system is going to solve that issue.
It was also proprietary media that held Vita back. Who knows what issues might arise this time? As they say: "fool me once".
 
Jesus Christ.

Sony destroyed MS in the west but sacrificed their home country. I remember all the posts that were like PS5 is outselling Xbox in its home country by like 5, or 6 to 1.

The Switch family is outselling the PS5 in Sonys home country, like 21 x 1......

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Do you realize that Japan is the home country for both Nintendo and PlayStation?

Or are you just trying to get a gotcha in your normal "IM A TOTALLY NORMAL AGNOSTIC NOT BIASED IN ANYWAY DENCHDECKARD TOTALLY NOT WARRIOR" post?
 
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Nah, I don't think will help, unless games.

Brand loyalte is still a thing in Japan, Playstation needs more than a portable to change things up.
Brand loyalte. I mention in my second reply.


If the brand loyalte gets down, low numbers of people will migrate to the next console will happen. Sony are still trying to make PS4 users migrate to PS5 ecosystem.

Remember, Switch to Switch 2 migrate rate was 80%, far more than most of the consoles around.



We need a better definition of games. What type of games do you think will be at PS6 portable?
To appeal to the western market or to appeal to the japanese market?

Or are you talking about BC catalogue?
Loyalty
 
The PS6 Portable is not only going to help… Is going to be a complete turn around in Japan.

Weirdly enough, I think some folks seem to think that the PS6 Portable will come out while Sony aren't going to also put out games that are more Eastern focused. I'm surprised by this train of thought. Clearly Sony is trying to get back into their Japanese\Asian bag with Nishino in the lead now.
 
Because no one wants to point out, current prices as of September 2, 2024:

PlayStation 5: ¥79,980
PlayStation 5 Digital Edition: ¥72,980

And releasing on November 21, 2025 (which is already today in Japan):

PlayStation 5 Digital Edition (Japanese only): ¥50,000
 
Momotaro Dentetsu 2 - I thought this already released a while ago. Are they churning these out or something?
I checked before hitting post, I think it was Momotaro Dentetsu World that I remember seeing.
It has 2 in the title, but yes this is the third Momotaro title on Switch.

Its sales look a bit low to me though.
I keep on saying it !!! So said what's happened to Japan, just causal and Handheld city now, Far from the Mecca of gaming it once was in the 90's
How so? Those games in the top 10 are in franchises that have been popular in Japan for decades.
So why didn't Japan buy the Wii U in droves? Was Mario Kart 8 that much worse than...Mario Kart 8?
Switch had a way better line up than Wii U. Wii U has several problems, but a big issue was a lack of appealing software.
 
Another laughably piss poor showing from Sony, still getting it's weekly ass beating by the switch 1. No wonder sony is in pure panic mode and scrabbling to pull a nintendo and release a cheaper unit in hope of suckering a few more japanese gamers into the ecosystem. Remember when everyone was going on about how once switch 2 was released that sales would fall off a cliff & games support would dry up for original switch. Yeah still not happening there's still a monthly stream of new releases,

Case in point
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The newest momoden is the biggest one yet the board is like 2 games combined into one this thing is going to have stupidly long legs especially as we are heading towards Japanese new year where family style party games are crazily popular to play over the holidays even moreso because konami actually give some amazing support to it with regular event updates that add in new content. Glad i preorderd machikoro as it sold out on release for the limited edition, another stupidly popular board game in Japan.
 
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You being so childish over your favorite box not selling as much as another one in every sales thread works against your points, which is just as well seeing as they're objectively wrong. Pokemon for all its grand success is just a tiny percentage of the ~1.5 billion software sold on Switch anyway.
It's just banter. I'm on record many times happy both Nintendo and Sony are doing very well. Also children generally aren't interested in economics and consumer trends. Adults are. There's plenty of space in the market for an adult and children's console.
 
Do you realize that Japan is the home country for both Nintendo and PlayStation?

Or are you just trying to get a gotcha in your normal "IM A TOTALLY NORMAL AGNOSTIC NOT BIASED IN ANYWAY DENCHDECKARD TOTALLY NOT WARRIOR" post?

I was literally just saying being outsold 20 x 1 is wild. nothing else
 
It has 2 in the title, but yes this is the third Momotaro title on Switch.

Its sales look a bit low to me though.

How so? Those games in the top 10 are in franchises that have been popular in Japan for decades.

Switch had a way better line up than Wii U. Wii U has several problems, but a big issue was a lack of appealing software.
The biggest driver of switch sales was Mario kart 8 by a country mile, which was originally on Wii U. In addition to many other games that got recycled for switch and sold gigantic numbers. Wii U had a hardware problem.
Did they decide to buy the 3DS instead?
Yes. Which further shows that Japan prefers smaller portable consoles (switch can double as both).
 
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The biggest driver of switch sales was Mario kart 8 by a country mile, which was originally on Wii U. In addition to many other games that got recycled for switch and sold gigantic numbers. Wii U had a hardware problem.

Yes. Which further shows that Japan prefers smaller portable consoles (switch can double as both).
It's a big game, but it's not enough on its own. Switch also got BOTW, Splatoon 2, Arms and Mario Odyssey all the first 8 months. In that time Wii U got Mario Bros. U, Nintendoland and Game & Wario as its only meaningful releases from Nintendo.

If Switch had launched in 2012 with Wii U's lineup, it would have sold way way worse than it did. Not as badly as the Wii U, but would have still been a failure.
 
You didn't answer anything. Wii and DS were supremely popular in Japan. Nintendo was not lacking in brand loyalty when Wii U released.

Still have to do what he said. You are pretending that at time competition was a thing. It goes many ways, brand loyalty is one of them but as they push the WiiU they discovered was not the only factor. The console itself need to have some sort of appeal.
Switch again shambles whatever the argument you had because its literally a piece of garbage in terms of power and graphics. Their exclusive games is the strongest factor. The same can be said with DS vs PSP.
 
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Was the new Momotaro Dentetsu known about? I didn't see anything about it coming up in the sales threads which is odd considering how successful the previous one was.
 
I dont think its just the price thats a problem. Its pretty clear Sony abandoned Japan and americanized the PlayStation, by fx moving headquarters to California and switching the buttons around on the controller. Its great if the price cut works out, but they gonna need a long-term plan to rehabilitate the brand in the country.
 
All of this fighting over second place. The real winner in Japan is mobile. I didn't see one Switch on a train when I went to Japan last year. But I did have an elderly man play a gacha game inside my hood on a packed train.
 
The PS6 Portable is not only going to help… Is going to be a complete turn around in Japan.
I think the problem is that in Japan Sony first party games aren't really that popular, there is a bigger market for a handheld that plays Pokemon in Japan than for a handheld that plays God of war. No doubt being a handheld will help PS, but Nintendo games are also very popular in their own right, which the PS handheld will lack. There is a market for a PS handheld, but it won't sell close to a Nintendo handheld, especially now because Japanese third party games actually get ported to Nintendo consoles which didn't happen previously.
 
All of this fighting over second place. The real winner in Japan is mobile. I didn't see one Switch on a train when I went to Japan last year. But I did have an elderly man play a gacha game inside my hood on a packed train.
Mobile dominates everywhere, not just in Japan.
 
If the PS6 from Sony ends up being a hybrid, rather than a more powerful desktop system, all I can say to Sony is: Good luck.
 
If the PS6 from Sony ends up being a hybrid, rather than a more powerful desktop system, all I can say to Sony is: Good luck.
doubt.

The most profitable PS in history is the PS5, they literally made more money this gen, then all gens combined. They have no reason to leave the home console market, Nintendo had lots of reasons to leave that market when Wii U sold 14 million...

So at most, you'll see a PS6 home console AND a PS portable or something, but strong, strong doubt of them going portable to chase what ever this shit is lol The WORLD WIDE MARKET matters to Sony, not simply 1 country.

Also, why would PS6 need to be a "hybrid"? They can just make 2 systems.....
 
doubt.

The most profitable PS in history is the PS5, they literally made more money this gen, then all gens combined. They have no reason to leave the home console market, Nintendo had lots of reasons to leave that market when Wii U sold 14 million...

So at most, you'll see a PS6 home console AND a PS portable or something, but strong, strong doubt of them going portable to chase what ever this shit is lol The WORLD WIDE MARKET matters to Sony, not simply 1 country.

Also, why would PS6 need to be a "hybrid"? They can just make 2 systems.....
This gave me a very curious thought. PS5 is Sonys most successful console primarily off the back of Fortnite, CoD, and games that milk a bunch of mtx purchases.

I am curious to see how recession proof these games are.
 
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doubt.

The most profitable PS in history is the PS5, they literally made more money this gen, then all gens combined. They have no reason to leave the home console market, Nintendo had lots of reasons to leave that market when Wii U sold 14 million...

So at most, you'll see a PS6 home console AND a PS portable or something, but strong, strong doubt of them going portable to chase what ever this shit is lol The WORLD WIDE MARKET matters to Sony, not simply 1 country.

Also, why would PS6 need to be a "hybrid"? They can just make 2 systems.....
That's what I'm thinking. They'll have two and only support the hybrid by "low power" features, not a unique system like Vita or PSP was. Like you said, PS5 is the most money making machine they've ever put out, all with minimal first party support, almost no Japanese support, and a ton of expensive peripherals. Why would they change that strategy next gen? That's why I said I'd be super careful before I bought into another gen from PlayStation like this one.
 
Hoshino of Sony PS is right to fight for the Japan market because Ps5 numbers is truly embarrassing especially this is Sony's home country. It is not even close. Ryan and Hulst truly insulted the Japan market which now has a long term effect to Sony PS image and numbers especially to Sony's own country. And we lost allot of potential great Japan Sony games especially AA games. This is a matter of pride for Sony
 
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doubt.

The most profitable PS in history is the PS5, they literally made more money this gen, then all gens combined. They have no reason to leave the home console market, Nintendo had lots of reasons to leave that market when Wii U sold 14 million...

So at most, you'll see a PS6 home console AND a PS portable or something, but strong, strong doubt of them going portable to chase what ever this shit is lol The WORLD WIDE MARKET matters to Sony, not simply 1 country.

Also, why would PS6 need to be a "hybrid"? They can just make 2 systems.....
It's a very unique situation, PS5 has less quality exclusives than ever and have lost Japan completely, but with Xbox doing so bad and microstransactions taking over, they cash in big time.

Yet, they are losing a lot of money being a non-factor in Japan.
 
All of this fighting over second place. The real winner in Japan is mobile. I didn't see one Switch on a train when I went to Japan last year. But I did have an elderly man play a gacha game inside my hood on a packed train.
nothing will ever beat mobile phone, you need it for daily life, having a phone is more like a requirement rather than a luxury device. In the modern world phone is just as important as internet and electricity
 
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It's a very unique situation, PS5 has less quality exclusives than ever and have lost Japan completely, but with Xbox doing so bad and microstransactions taking over, they cash in big time.

Yet, they are losing a lot of money being a non-factor in Japan.
Japan is the #2 market for the PS5, they just have these very low numbers right now due to the ridiculous price hike from last year.
 
The fact that no other country, besides the US, has sold over 7 million PS5 consoles.
While true, the problem is that Sony makes most of its money from software and services, and that's where they have really taken a beating this generation; while we know gacha games are huge successes on PS4 globally, we also know that games such as Genshin Impact make most of their money in Japan on mobile, and PlayStation (obviously, by sheer numbers) represents a very small fraction of that money. So whatever those numbers are cannot possibly make up for the catastrophic contraction in software sales that they saw in Japan this generation, even compared to last generation (which was already a far cry from the PS1/PS2/PSP heydays)
 
That's country, not market, the biggest market is North America, the second is Europe. It's also only hardware, the software situation is very different.
I don't quite get since when a country couldn't be referred to as a market? For how Sony operates, their main three markets are the Americas (handled by SIE LLC), Europe/Turkey/Middle East/India/Australia (handled by SIE Europe) and East and Southeast Asia (handled by SIE Inc.), but none of us refer to it that way.
If you insist, I'll just say that it's the #2 country, but regarding the software situation, it'll be good if we could have a good outlook for how, say, the UK (#3 country) does in comparison regarding software sales and MTX revenue.
While true, the problem is that Sony makes most of its money from software and services, and that's where they have really taken a beating this generation; while we know gacha games are huge successes on PS4 globally, we also know that games such as Genshin Impact make most of their money in Japan on mobile, and PlayStation (obviously, by sheer numbers) represents a very small fraction of that money. So whatever those numbers are cannot possibly make up for the catastrophic contraction in software sales that they saw in Japan this generation, even compared to last generation (which was already a far cry from the PS1/PS2/PSP heydays)
It's a combination of both digital sales (there are less than 6M PS5 console that you can even account for the retail game market) being higher this generation and MTX consumption that could make up, at least in some way, part of the retail decline. The PlayStation ratio for Genshin Impact revenue is obviously explained by its market presence versus mobile, but that, by itself, does not explain how much money the title makes within PlayStation itself.
 
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