DontBeThatGuy
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You know what isn't the right thing to do? I'll let you figur... Nevermind, it's tossing the girl across the room like a rag-doll. It's that.
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Cop bodyslams girl student
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You know what isn't the right thing to do? I'll let you figur... Nevermind, it's tossing the girl across the room like a rag-doll. It's that.
Alex Stroud
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fucking dude bullwhipped her and that desk across the room. For the best though, I mean he only probably outweighed her 2:1 after all, she had the clear advantage if she stood up.
M0nochromatic
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It's sad that 'peace keepers' have little or no non violent methods of conflict resolution.
Well, they probably do, but they're reserved for a priveleged class.
Well, they probably do, but they're reserved for a priveleged class.
fuck it, last comment and i'm out.
1. carefully and slowly tilt the desk over as there is no need to rush or cause harm in this situation
2. ask school admin and others to help persuade. peer pressure is a hell of a thing.
3. assess the situation, talk with the student and other students and figure out the right course of action other than to immediately go in for the throwdown.
Gee... was it that hard?
Police are too scared of being shot by him if they fire him. Since he's a cop, he might shoot them if he feels threatened. Catch 22.
old manatee
Banned
The people responsible for keeping him in check are probably on his bowling team.
What the fuck
LookAtMeGo
Member
More like a judo toss.
What a fucking piece of shit this guy is. Look how big he is. He should have easily been able to escort her out of there without being so rough. I used to take people that had 50+ pounds on me out of the bar when I was a bouncer, in a less aggressive way. The fuck is this nonsense?
What a fucking piece of shit this guy is. Look how big he is. He should have easily been able to escort her out of there without being so rough. I used to take people that had 50+ pounds on me out of the bar when I was a bouncer, in a less aggressive way. The fuck is this nonsense?
Because that's neither practical nor an accurate reflection of what will happen.
In all honesty, the girl should have just gotten up and left the class. When the cop came into the classroom and told her to leave, she should have just got up and left with the cop. Further, when the cop grabbed her, she should have just gotten up and not tried to resist. A lot of the violence in that video is from her resistance. She was even hitting the cop after he grabbed her. If she would have just complied, none of that would have happened.
I think if you look closely you'll see that it was more excessive then it needed to be. She wasn't really doing anything other then trying to protect herself when he started picking her up, it looked like he grabbed the chair and used it to flip her back, and the throw across the room is self explanatory, he was probably trying to separate her from the chair at that point, but it was all done in an angry and unprofessional manner.
What I think is that I'm being taken for a ride, so I'm done here. You're either goofing around or one dense individual.
old manatee
Banned
More victim blaming.
la flama blanca
Banned
I think you have a point here...especially since teenagers are notoriously known for following orders.
boiled goose
good with gravy
A student refusing to leave needs to be met with violence????
My school never had cops, how was this dealt with at my school?
Also, practical?? I want to be kept safe, not beaten because it is more practical.
Being beaten by your own police force when you are not being violent is not practical.
DontBeThatGuy
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I would've accepted something like chloroform, and/or horse tranquilizes but your suggestions of more tactful pursuits to handle this extraordinary situation is just asinine.
If you're not interested in actually talking about it, why are you here?
Do people honestly believe that peaceful resistance won't end with a forcible arrest? What world are we living in?
old manatee
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Angelus Errare
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We're about do for a civil uprising.
Yes. You cannot just refuse to leave and then act surprised when you are forcibly removed.
Typically the teachers were the ones who dragged the student out.
ReturnOfTheRAT
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Jesus, that cop thinks he's Big Boss.
boiled goose
good with gravy
There is a big space between peaceful resistance, forcible arrest, and then beat down.
You know, cops answer to US. We can decide what rules we want them to follow.
Nope. Didn't happen.
Yaphett Kotto
Member
That is standard in these threads. Always the victim's fault for forcing the cop to do some dumb shit.
Some teenagers are.
However, there are teenagers who feel that no one can tell them what to do. That doesn't work well in a classroom environment where the teacher has to maintain authority.
Keep in mind, this situation escalated to the point where the instructor had to call security to remove her from the class BEFORE the video began. In the classroom, you simply cannot have students who think they are above the rules of the school.
That's their training. Not to approach a situation logically.
victreeb3l
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Fire this piece of shit cop. That was excessive. These dudes have zero training it seems like.
I'd rather not more people get shot or permamently injured so they can be a martyr for your better world. Compliance is the safest and smartest option.
Veritigo_X
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Way too aggressive considering she's a high school student just sitting at her desk. I seriously doubt whatever she did to disturb the class warranted that kind of response from the cop.
Come on. The situation didn't require the use of force. Schools should know how to handle unruly students.
Come on. The situation didn't require the use of force. Schools should know how to handle unruly students.
My school just had my teachers drag students out and beat them or other students dragged the disruptive kid and beat them. Korea was pretty interesting.
boiled goose
good with gravy
Hmmm?
The better world would be the cops not escalating to violence in non violent situations, so no injuries or shots there...
How about
In the video the cop loses complete control over what happens to her body. He can't know where she'll hit her head. Considering she wasn't attacking him or had a weapon I don't see how it is acceptable to put her at such risk.
DontBeThatGuy
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The act of not complying doesn't absolve the cop of the escalated violence that is throwing the girl across the floor like she's a bale of hay.
The moment you start accepting violence and power abuse without complaining and rather accept everything they do to you you just live in a dictature or lost all of your freedom...
Yaphett Kotto
Member
So because she just sat there, the best course of action was to wrestle her out?
doctorblurg
Banned
Just because she didn't stand up doesn't mean you have to flip a kid out of a desk and drag them across the ground
Why did i stay to lurk in this thread.....
Screw it, i'm back in.
I really don't think you have the right to say that when you have ignored not one, but 2 posts in this thread detailing ways to defuse this situation non-violently.
When 1 solution fails, you go for other non-violent solutions. Violent solutions should be the last course scenario.
FFS
Screw it, i'm back in.
I really don't think you have the right to say that when you have ignored not one, but 2 posts in this thread detailing ways to defuse this situation non-violently.
When 1 solution fails, you go for other non-violent solutions. Violent solutions should be the last course scenario.
FFS
She wasn't going to leave the class room after repeated requests from the instructor and a police officer. What other option was there?
LowParry
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It's too bad the school didn't do anything about it rather than a local police officer. But what was the police officer suppose to do in those cases where a person doesn't respond? Have the school faculty remove her off campus under his supervision? Force (as seen in the video)? Taser?
Edit: Honestly the more disturbing thing to see in that video is nobody reacting. That's scary.
Edit: Honestly the more disturbing thing to see in that video is nobody reacting. That's scary.
I don't see that as escalated violence but rather a natural extension of dealing with her resistance. The throw was the exact same motion that cleared and separated her from the desk, it wasn't something extra he did after he already had control over her.
Damerman
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i mean... we know how impatient teenagers can make you, but how did they think this roid rager was a good fit for the job?
he could have written her a citation that would have lead to a warrant for her arrest if she didn't pay it... but right then and there?
there needs to be a study on why police do this...how are they trained? why is this kind of violence their first resort?
he could have written her a citation that would have lead to a warrant for her arrest if she didn't pay it... but right then and there?
there needs to be a study on why police do this...how are they trained? why is this kind of violence their first resort?
Again, read posts in this thread. Options other than the one the cop used have been presented.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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Yo, this is the sort of shit abusers say when they start to lose an argument.
He didn't, he picked her up and she started resisting. The desk nonsense and the throw was a result of that struggle.
DontBeThatGuy
Member
I like how a girl refusing to leave her desk somehow makes her a legitimate target for violent behavior and potential injury, from a power-lifter no less. It's warped.
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