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CoroCoro Reveals Rockruff Evolution and New Ultra Beasts
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Lil'DigiOp
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These Ultra Beasts look like they could slap your team around. I hope Expansion is strong because it would be disappointing if he sucked.
I want the Rockruff evo on my team.
I want the Rockruff evo on my team.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
I really hope the formes are permanent, it gives me a reason to keep two rockruff around
GiantBreadbug
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I did, and most of them are to me.
The Kalos League was pretty great, and select battles throughout the main series were as well, particularly some matches with Sawyer. But some battles (gym battles even) just made me yawn. I mean how many times can I watch Ash cleverly think to do some weird thing that's not even that practical or cool to win a battle that he should probably lose? Like, it's almost like the battles are a delivery device for some weird dumb insight Ash has. Then there's Ash-Greninja, which is just so utterly bland and, again, deus-ex-machina-ish.
You could tell when they decided to write a decent battle, because they did a really nice job with some of them. But many were "Ash is so great so he wins against the odds even though it's kinda really bullshit" at its worst I think.
balladofwindfishes
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I'm seriously considering if I want to add the wolf to my team. The line screams "EARLY GAME" but man, I really want to use the wolf. And because I'm getting moon, it'll be pretty easy to get, since I'll be playing at 6-8am game time (6-8pm my time).
but GX was garbage and it took forever to get good
And Yokai Watch anime is garbage, there are better anime with a multi-shorts format, like Cocotama.
Fuck this "fun" descriptor like it's some magical thing
Now I want to see it just for the salt.
Dammit that would make me super salty. It would almost be as bad as when they canonized pikachu saying its own name into yellow version.
Ash lowering his expectations from winning a Pokemon league to graduating from school.
What Lucario's muzzle looks like.
Finale Fireworker
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Many of us have never gotten over that. I know that my severe alcoholism began around that time. I was nine and Pokémon was ruined. Now I'm nothing.
Galactic Specter
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New Ultra Beast leaked
It's Gladion's inner darkness showing it's true form. /s
something something sword/tome hand
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
It's Gladion's inner chuuni coming out.
How is it deus ex machina-ish when it has more setbacks than megas? Also what, XY is his most creative form just yet when it comes with battling, especially highlighted by the Olympia fight. His only bad gym fights were Grant and Valerie and even then it's less bad and more of "not as great as the rest".
Reminder that an actual pokemon fight without restrictions on game mechanics isn't waiting for each other to attack.
Pokemon have been saying their names since RBY
How is it deus ex machina-ish when it has more setbacks than megas? Also what, XY is his most creative form just yet when it comes with battling, especially highlighted by the Olympia fight. His only bad gym fights were Grant and Valerie and even then it's less bad and more of "not as great as the rest".
Reminder that an actual pokemon fight without restrictions on game mechanics isn't waiting for each other to attack.
Pokemon have been saying their names since RBY
balladofwindfishes
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Like the bat Pokemon "BZZZZAAZAA," the goldfish "EEEOOO" and the little pink blob "EEOOTOO"
Who could forget such memorable Pokemon names. And everyone's favorite abomination of science legendary "Eeeeoooaahheeoo"
Zombegoast
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The ride just never ends with Ash.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
You will end up looking dumb if you refer to compressed, 8 bit audio for reference, especially if you unironically think Pokemon will sound like 8 bit audio.
No, try actually talking to Pokemon. It was Gen 1 so they didn't translate them, but Jigglypuff, Clefairy, etc. all use their names ("Pipipi!", "Puririri!", etc.)
And let's not even forget...
"Mewtwo!"
Crazy Diamond
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Both of Rockruff's evolutions look great. Awesome designs. I prefer the daytime design, but will make sure I get both. I need those adorable pups in my party! Also, UB-02 Expansion looks like a Stand (edit: beaten!) or something out of OPM.
Pop-O-Matic
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The Sun & Moon anime is gonna end with Ash failing his final exam and leaving for the Gen 8 region instead of taking the whole course over again, isn't it?
Merchandising.
Merchandising.
I seriously doubt the entire anime arc will be Ash trying to graduate, it will likely be just the first couple episodes. At the end of the Kalos anime, Delia will tell him that she should focus on his studies again and Oak will send him to help his cousin.
Then Ash wrecks Marlow's bike and they end up visiting the professor, they meet Lillie and then "whaaat, this region doesn't have gym leaders?".
Then Ash wrecks Marlow's bike and they end up visiting the professor, they meet Lillie and then "whaaat, this region doesn't have gym leaders?".
chaobreaker
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Gladion is most definitely Expansion.
1. Same red and black colour scheme
2. Illusions of grandeur (his tingling right hand and posing)
3. Expansion looks like a super hero which ties to 2. (Henshin?)
4. Owner Type:Null which hints of a relation with Aether (no matter how strained it is)
1. Same red and black colour scheme
2. Illusions of grandeur (his tingling right hand and posing)
3. Expansion looks like a super hero which ties to 2. (Henshin?)
4. Owner Type:Null which hints of a relation with Aether (no matter how strained it is)
balladofwindfishes
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Well nobody told Gamefreak that when they made an anime based on Gen I and the Pokemon made actual animal noises. In Origins, no Pokemon, not even Pikachu, says their own name.
The only time Pokemon say their names is the main anime and some spin offs. Outside of the main anime, it's always just animal-like noises. Even Pokken just has generic noises.
Jellyfish girl isn't that obvious.compared to her sister.
Jellyfish girl is also still my favorite design of the bunch.
Tacorona72
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Both the UB-02 forms look like cockroaches.
Wasn't too interested in Rockruff before, now it has my attention. Love both of it's evolutionary forms.
Wasn't too interested in Rockruff before, now it has my attention. Love both of it's evolutionary forms.
Yep, those are the two invertebrates that immediately come to mind.
Spider Ultra Beast when?
you're right, misread.
HawthorneKitty
Sgt. 2nd Class in the Creep Battalion, Waifu Wars
Eh, I feel like Kuragehime is still obvious, but Lusamine is overly obvious.
balladofwindfishes
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It's a shame they went with the really surreal and different design for the jellyfish, but then ended up with a generic big strong monster thing for the other one.
Beauty has the general silhouette of a roach, but Expansion doesn't look like one. Cockroaches don't have a proboscis.
If Beauty is based on a roach, it's kinda hilarious their first roach Pokemon looks like that.
Neoleo2143
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I do like that pokemon is finally implementing actual boss fights and using buffs to make sure you can't outright take out the Totem Pokemon instantly. I do like the 6 pokemon trainer fights though, it really adds it's own flavor in a way. It seems sun and moon will not be wanting for different fights.
Yep, it can't be a coincidenceSo the ultrabeasts are clearly the 3 blondes
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Except I already showed you proof that Pokemon talked in "poke-speak" even in Gen 1 games.
There are some pokemon that make animal noises... and they carry over even in the undubbed anime.
Also are you telling me Togepi's cry isn't saying it's name?
And Origins is garbage and is far from a "faithful" adaptation so I don't see why you're bringing it up. And even then Origins wasn't the first to bring this misconception, but the BW2 trailer.
Fuck, I'm looking for the jpg showing that Pokemon saying their names have been a thing since RBY.
That's why I love Origins and like Black2/White2 Trailer so much. No "Lucario!". We actually got an animal cry based on the ingame cry.
I'd be seriously turned off the series if they gave them all voices, and I've been playing since Gen I without interruptions...
Pop-O-Matic
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Also, between Ash's doofy look in the preview art and the fact that he's going to school, I can already tell this season is gonna bring back Best!Ash
I don't really think the cries are supposed to resemble names. Most don't even have the same number of syllables. They sound about as much like the names as they do any other word.
And if they were for the first generation, it was dropped for future generations, unless you think Skuntank's name is a fart sound or Lopunny's name is a wolf whistle.
And if they were for the first generation, it was dropped for future generations, unless you think Skuntank's name is a fart sound or Lopunny's name is a wolf whistle.
GiantBreadbug
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Okay so Ash faints if Greninja does, I don't think that's really a drawback in any way that affects the battle at all. In-battle, it's literally a hyped up Greninja that requires no held item to get stronger. And of course it's a deus ex, it's literally just "Ash's Greninja is special and stronger than others."
I figured the Olympia battle would come up. I just don't understand the cleverness of it. The actual sequences when they were using/avoiding moves was pretty okay, but the time keeping thing was, there I guess? I mean different strokes I guess, but I kind of just went "oh" when I realized what he was doing. It wasn't shocking or super smart, and it was kind of some kitchen sink bullshit when there were ways for him to win using, I dunno, the moves of the Pokemon he was battling with. I don't think Ash Bullshit as a way for him to constantly win is particularly witty, nor does it involve much actual battle strategy.
And yes I am abundantly aware that we cannot have turn based battles in the anime (as I said). However, seeing Ash utilize different aspects of his Pokemon, and mechanics that exist in the game, would be pretty refreshing.
Why can't we have some (more) episodes that cleverly combine different moves/abilities/etc to create a unique battle? Why not have Ash's Pokemon besides Pikachu constantly learning new moves (besides "it's hard") so that way he can change it up in battle a bit? Like, Ash could be using buffs and items like crazy and using all these crazy combinations of things that actually exist in the Pokemon world.
There are sooooo many fun battle combinations that could be adapted that they're not even tryin to explore. It's not hard to come up with cool scenarios that may not be the best in-game, but they'd work well on-screen.
Example: Pikachu's Static paralyzes an opponent with Guts or Facade, who proceeds to stomp him.
That was pretty easy, and it translates to the show well. Heck it might have even been done before, but frankly watching it again would be better than literal non-battle things.
Example 2: Fighting an opponent with Dry Skin, Ash directs a Pokemon to use Sunny Day to give them a disadvantage.
Also literally just make Ash use held items and that's a huge step up. I know "show is for young kids who don't care" but also it's easy as shit to write and the kids will maybe actually learn some things about real Pokemon battles.
"Ash was a mistake, it's nothing but trash."
What did we do to deserve this...
Tacorona72
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Ah you're right. Then perhaps (as someone else had mentioned) Expansion is a mosquito.
I agree. Not exactly how I would have imagined our first roach in the series. In a good way though.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
There we go
That's not deus ex machina at all, this is as bad as people saying it's an asspull. It was foreshadowed, it was stated repeatedly with Froakie's attitude, and it was consistent. Why you are bringing held items in the show that never even bothered with it baffles me.
How is it bullshit? How is timing the presence of attacks make it bad? Hell, it was never even done before. It may not be shocking, but the very fact that no one brought it up until then was surprising. And it wasn't only that that made the fight great. It involved seemingly two incompatible mons fighting so well with each other and using enemy attacks against them.
Ash's mons do change what they learn. Froakie and Fletchling traded a lot of moves. The rest don't since they learn to their max already and were late in the gang unlike those two. Note that there's a huge gap between Hawlucha and Fletchling.
You just keep spouting "all those fun combinations!" yet rely on vague interpretations and even going for in-game stuff that wouldn't translate well like stats. All your complaints all go back to "oh it should act like in the games", which has bullshit like Bonerang not hitting Flying types. And you're just spouting moves that his mons wouldn't really lend themselves any use (Sunny Day? For fucks sake). Held items are pretty much unused due to how awkward it looks especially in animation - seriously it's a game mechanic that doesn't really lend itself well in animation especially with certain pokemon - explain to me how a limbless Pokemon would hold a berry for instance.
That's not deus ex machina at all, this is as bad as people saying it's an asspull. It was foreshadowed, it was stated repeatedly with Froakie's attitude, and it was consistent. Why you are bringing held items in the show that never even bothered with it baffles me.
How is it bullshit? How is timing the presence of attacks make it bad? Hell, it was never even done before. It may not be shocking, but the very fact that no one brought it up until then was surprising. And it wasn't only that that made the fight great. It involved seemingly two incompatible mons fighting so well with each other and using enemy attacks against them.
Ash's mons do change what they learn. Froakie and Fletchling traded a lot of moves. The rest don't since they learn to their max already and were late in the gang unlike those two. Note that there's a huge gap between Hawlucha and Fletchling.
You just keep spouting "all those fun combinations!" yet rely on vague interpretations and even going for in-game stuff that wouldn't translate well like stats. All your complaints all go back to "oh it should act like in the games", which has bullshit like Bonerang not hitting Flying types. And you're just spouting moves that his mons wouldn't really lend themselves any use (Sunny Day? For fucks sake). Held items are pretty much unused due to how awkward it looks especially in animation - seriously it's a game mechanic that doesn't really lend itself well in animation especially with certain pokemon - explain to me how a limbless Pokemon would hold a berry for instance.
Cockroaches are actually pretty nice animals. Despite their reputation, they don't really spread disease and are fastidiously clean compared to other common insects like flies (house flies are ridiculously unhygienic).
The only reason they're so hated is because certain species tend to live where we do.
Don't the legendary birds say "Gaiou!" or something like that? Not sure how that resembles Freezer, Thunder, and Fire.
Seems like it's an on-and-off thing.
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