Halo is Back
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Nah, just let it die already. There hasn't been a good Terminator movie since T2. Sometimes, you need to know when to throw in the towel.
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Could a new James Cameron directed Terminator movie save the franchise?
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MayauMiao
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Can't reboot Terminator anymore. The franchise is done. We all know the plot, nothing will surprise us anymore like what T1 and T2 did.
They have to come up with a completely different plot, creative writing, great actors and actresses.
Unfortunately with current Hollywoke climat, such thing is impossible.
They have to come up with a completely different plot, creative writing, great actors and actresses.
Unfortunately with current Hollywoke climat, such thing is impossible.
diffusionx
Gold Member
The big problem with Terminator, like so many other things, was thinking of it like a "franchise." It was a terrific first movie and a terrific second movie. That is *it*. The world doesn't need a Terminator cinematic universe. Of course, a James Cameron directed T3 would probably be excellent, because he's an excellent filmmaker, but that would just mean that there are now 3 great Terminator films instead of two.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Another problem is any old sci-fi franchise amping up the CGI where the movie is probably 25% real streets, 75% recorded on a green screen. It gets to be CGI overload of crazy battles with robots or aliens whizzing around on screen at light speed in unrealistic motions.
The old movies could have low budget/low tech effects and Arnie bodydoubles on a motorcycle, but at least the movie is more grounded.
Kind of like gamers preferring WWII or military games over crazy sci-fi arena shooters with Halo hoverbikes, lasers and plasma rifles. It just gets too space techie.
Shadowplay1979
Member
Just get AI to write a new script
Days like these...
Have a Blessed Day
Cameron hasnt had it since Avatar don't @ with it made eleventy bajillion $$$. Don't care
Hardensoul
Member
I don't know but this looks good.
Sonik
Member
Terminator's backstory was absolutely idiotic, the new female John Connor was laughable, the scene where that scrawny girl pretends to be a leader in the future was fucking hilarious, even old Sarah Connor was barely convincing. The only thing good about that movie was Mackenzie Davis' character. Salvation is the only Terminator movie aside from the classics that isn't completely fucking terrible imo.
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StreetsofBeige
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The vast majority of creatives churn out predictable plots. For every crazy movie with weird plots like Memento, The Prestige, or Glen Garry Glen Ross, there's probably 50 that are good guy beats bad guy, guy gets the girl, the kidnapped child gets recused, happy ending. Even horror movies are predictable because most have an ending where the evil monster isnt dead after all, or a sequel comes out and everyone knows it'll be a dumb way the monster gets resurrected... only to be rekilled again for the 6th time. Hell, how many horror or monster movies have the creature coming to life due to a lightning bolt? Geez.
If the Terminator franchise survives and Arnie and evil Skynet have run its course, change it up and see where it goes with an all new cast.
Turn the tides and make the movie from Skynet's point of view and the rebels are the evil doers where the entire series has been a sham. John Connor, Sarah Connor and the rest of the rebels are terrorists or whatever and Skynet is actually Earth's last defence since the rest of human good guy military are dead.
Might be dumb plot as I'm someone who's shittiest marks in high school came from English class, but hell at least it's something different.
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LaughingStock
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Make a movie about John Connor living in a world where he's not the messiah. How he deals with it. While AI slowly starts to take control of every aspect of human life.
Just stop using the tired template of good/bad guy travels back in time to protect/kill person who'll be important in the future.
Just stop using the tired template of good/bad guy travels back in time to protect/kill person who'll be important in the future.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
The decrepit conditions seen arent the fault of Skynet. It's the rebels oppressing the common folk where John Connor is asswipe dictator. Skynet is an automated defence force there to clean it up.
I'd watch that.
And at the end of the movie, Skynet wins!
Hawking Radiation
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Its dead Jim.
bender
What time is it?
That's a lot of the reason that Arnie was great in the first place but I digress.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
I agree in the old films. But not in the new ones. Especially when he's playing a Terminator at around age 70 with facelifts.
bender
What time is it?
That's the part I digress about. Old Arnie doesn't work so I agree with your greater point. I mostly hate sequels anyway so we certainly don't need more Terminator.
sankt-Antonio
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He can’t craft an interesting Avatar plot how could he save the Terminator franchise?
ManaByte
Gold Member
They tried that.
TastyPastry
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only if cameron makes a real future war movie
VulcanRaven
Member
Salvation was PG-13 and the future war didn't look the same. The movie had some good ideas but it could have been a lot better.
StueyDuck
Member
I'd hardly argue that Terminators (1 and 2) plot is some work of genius, future robot goes back to kill person so future doesn't happen, That's kind of the entire plot of the franchise.
It's the great action/set pieces, likeable characters and actors with good charisma that made us all love it.
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VulcanRaven
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My favorite scene of the series: 0:43
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ManaByte
Gold Member
That was Genesys.
Red5
Member
Didn't even bother watching it, I gave up on the franchise after Salvation. But reading up on the plot it seems only the beginning is in the future war then the rest is time travel basically rehashing T1/2, what I'm saying is a prequel set in the future war in the original timeline without any time travel until the very end where they send Kyle back to save Sarah.
VulcanRaven
Member
That is how Genisys starts and Kyle Reese is the main character. Its shown in the trailers. I didn't like how they cast Jai Courtney as Reese.
Dr.Morris79
Gold Member
ForAcademicPurposes
Gold Member
That's like asking could Steven Spielberg save the Jaws franchise. That ship has sailed.
Hudo
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I kinda need that to fuck.
Dr.Morris79
Gold Member
NecrosaroIII
Ask me about my terrible takes on Star Trek characters
James Cameron is cool, but how about some fresh blood. I want James Corden to direct a terminator
Dr.Morris79
Gold Member
The annoying fat english bloke?
NecrosaroIII
Ask me about my terrible takes on Star Trek characters
Yep. That hack shill late night talk show host.
ShadowNate
Member
No, they killed this forever. Should have left it at T2.
There's an opportunity to do something original and more updated with current and future trends in tech and AI. Something that won't be Terminator and hopefully won't have time-travel at all.
With the state of Hollywood of these days, though, of "asset flips" powered by trash scripts, I have little hope.
There's an opportunity to do something original and more updated with current and future trends in tech and AI. Something that won't be Terminator and hopefully won't have time-travel at all.
With the state of Hollywood of these days, though, of "asset flips" powered by trash scripts, I have little hope.
analog_future
Resident Crybaby
I thought the new one was fun. Obviously no where near the first two, but not the worst way to spend a couple hours.
1. The Terminator
2. Terminator 2: Judgement Day
(massive gap)
3. Terminator: Dark Fate
4. Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines
5. Terminator Salvation
6. Terminator Genisys
1. The Terminator
2. Terminator 2: Judgement Day
(massive gap)
3. Terminator: Dark Fate
4. Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines
5. Terminator Salvation
6. Terminator Genisys
belmarduk
Member
I can't see the studios taking on something like that. There have been so many high-profile flops recently and I don't think any of them would chance it.. especially with Cameron on board.. he's very expensive, I'm sure.
I agree with others than a lower-budget suspenseful horror film in the vein of the first one is a Terminator movie I would like to see most!
I agree with others than a lower-budget suspenseful horror film in the vein of the first one is a Terminator movie I would like to see most!
Dr.Morris79
Gold Member
That wet wipe couldnt terminate a salad.
VulcanRaven
Member
It looks like Cameron can do what he wants. More Alita: Battle Angel movies are coming even though the first one didn't do well:
Alita: Battle Angel 2 & 3 Seemingly Confirmed By James Cameron
Multiple sequels are happening?
screenrant.com
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The romance in "Sarah Conner Chronicles" was an interesting direction to take
March Climber
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It's still insane to me how this started out as horror and never went back to that genre afterwards.
ManaByte
Gold Member
Only reason Dark Fate was any good at all was because Cameron co-wrote it and had creative control. That’s the only way they got Hamilton back. But again, killing John was his idea.
UnravelKatharsis
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It's probably very unlikely but a truly unique genisys may provide salvation from a dark fate.
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