Of course I see a problem with it, I think you misunderstood my post, I wasn't talking about unlocking things fast with microtransaction, but unlocking things regularly by playing the game. I was responding to the post I quoted.
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Of course I see a problem with it, I think you misunderstood my post, I wasn't talking about unlocking things fast with microtransaction, but unlocking things regularly by playing the game. I was responding to the post I quoted.
I remember seeing $60+ Nintendo games then again maybe that was that store's price.
This issue gives me pause in buying the game. I have enough money in my wallet to buy this game digitally but remain unsure after this. We're paying for cheat codes now in my opinion. Easy fatalities cost real money in this game. People say easy fatalities are unlocks in the game but why go through the trouble of including easy fatalities as a paid option in the first place?
Parallax Scroll
Banned
Why does it matter if this change was made in a patch? Are you saying it would be OK if the slow unlock speed was already pressed onto the disc?
Give War A Chance
Member
I know seven people in my office that are buying the easy fatalities when they get home because "lol accidentally punching people instead of doing the fatality sucks man, it's not even that expensive."
That's why they're including the option. Because there are PLENTY of people that would rather pay to win than spend the time "grinding" to unlock it.
jaundicejuice
Member
By the end of this generation most triple A games are going to be more like 60$ (80-100$ depending on where you live) free-to-play starter kits than boxed retail products.
me0wish
Member
That's piracy yo.
A lot of people forget, but Super NES games were typically $69.99 new. Hell - NES games didn't even have standardized pricing and varied by publisher/game/store. Bayou Billy ran me $79.99... six months after release and countless allowances saved later. A lot of games never even went on sale YEARS after release back then.
You can't just look at the last couple of generations and think that the pricing is bad or that DLC is strangling our wallets. It's way better than it once was.
Freedom = $1.05
Banned
games were expensive because carts were expensive to produce, not the games themselves. It's the reason that a brand new PSX game sold for $40 and the same game on the N64 sold anywhere between $60-80. Those chips were costly and one of the many reasons nintendo lost that generation.
Games have been @ $60 for nearly a decade now. I get it, these games are getting more expensive to produce yet they're still trying to sell them at a reasonable price. But some of their attempts to try and recoup their costs are especially slimey, and this is one of them
Give War A Chance
Member
Where did you find those numbers? That's an absurd drop. That type of drop would be absolutely terrible, unless you get the currency through other means.
I have an issue with free-to-play and DLC that goes beyond the extent to which they're holding back or modifying a portion of the supposedly core content.
I don't want to be sold anything when playing a game. I want to budget, purchase based on my budget, and then enjoy my hobby without the intrusion of any sort of sales pitch. I don't want to see locked characters, doors, or notice boards that I can only use if I go to the console store. I don't want to see other players decorated in fancy gear that I'll only get access to if I drop $9.99 on some kind of pack.
It makes the experience an ongoing sales pitch and leaves me with a bitter taste in my mouth. When I watch a movie, I'm not prompted to pay an additional 50 cents to get a bonus scene in a movie, nor do books ask me for another dollar to get more detail on a particularly interesting character, nor does playing a sport require me to grab my wallet mid-game so that I can take a break and eat an orange or something. It's gross, distracting, and I hate it.
I'd rather pay $110 for an ad free experience than $70 for a platform for ongoing sales.
I don't want to be sold anything when playing a game. I want to budget, purchase based on my budget, and then enjoy my hobby without the intrusion of any sort of sales pitch. I don't want to see locked characters, doors, or notice boards that I can only use if I go to the console store. I don't want to see other players decorated in fancy gear that I'll only get access to if I drop $9.99 on some kind of pack.
It makes the experience an ongoing sales pitch and leaves me with a bitter taste in my mouth. When I watch a movie, I'm not prompted to pay an additional 50 cents to get a bonus scene in a movie, nor do books ask me for another dollar to get more detail on a particularly interesting character, nor does playing a sport require me to grab my wallet mid-game so that I can take a break and eat an orange or something. It's gross, distracting, and I hate it.
I'd rather pay $110 for an ad free experience than $70 for a platform for ongoing sales.
The Faceless Master
Member
People that played the game pre-patch noted that you didn't earn currency fast enough, so the reduction might not be as huge as some make it sound. No numbers has been mentioned though.
Then again, this is no different than Little Big Planet ...or even older games like Burnout Paradise with unlock all keys for sale. Is just an option for those that don't want to play a lot..or don't have time.
Then again, this is no different than Little Big Planet ...or even older games like Burnout Paradise with unlock all keys for sale. Is just an option for those that don't want to play a lot..or don't have time.
Give War A Chance
Member
Don't start giving them ideas. "If we make them purchase ONLY, it IS piracy!"
Triggerhappytel
Member
All this anti-consumer bullshit; ideally people should be passing on this game altogether and tweeting WB Games to tell them why.
lashman
Steam-GAF's Official Ambassador to Gaming-GAF
well ...
reddit said:
now that's out of the way. yesterday they released a update 1.8GB and its supposed to fix the game and stuff but me and 2 friends of mine noticed 2 bad changes after we all downloaded the update. The game became harder especially the tower boss and you get way less money for story mode and normal fights. my friend used to get 2.500 coins on a boss fight now he gets 200 on the same boss fight after the update. the krypt is huge so with the new update it will take ages to open everything. so now im thinking of removing the update and play. please if anyone has the game please confirm if its the same with you 
but numbers are out. someone mentioned you used to get 2500 coins from a boss, now you get 200
edit: beaten by a filthy skater sigh
Give War A Chance
Member
Did anyone confirm?
EDIT: Reading the Reddit thread, first post has an interesting line of thinking.
This could totally make sense, but we look down so much on microtransactions, and publishers, that it's hard to imagine it wasn't a negative, nefarious reason. Hoping these outlets are reaching out to WB for comment, and that WB actually comments, even though we probably won't believe it anyway.reddit said:
TheSlySoul
Member
2,500 to 200 is 92% reduction. Yeah that is some crap...
That actually makes sense
NotMyUsername
Member
I was coming to post the same thing. I haven't started my copy yet but I figured that was the case. I'm sure this happens often enough. Giant Bomb's quick look of Helldivers Brad talks about how they had a vastly increased rate of the global points thing that unlocked the other planets/levels or whatever so reviewers were able to access everything and then on release it was drastically slowed down. This is fairly similar. The only difference is that you can pay up front to unlock everything. I've never had a big issue with that as it's simply an option for people with the disposable income and don't want to spend the time. I know I won't be paying for it.
And none of us can really say if this was patched down to the level at which they planned or if this was someone at the publisher cackling and rubbing their hands together thinking about how it'll get a 2% increase in sales for the unlock everything payment. Who knows?
me0wish
Member
It was sarcasm, I've seen people on gaf who are against people who "cheat" on f2p games and calling it piracy.
A game free or not, if it had decent fairly priced microtransactions, people won't "cheat", and will actually pay.
I'm not so sure about those numbers. Although a specific boss was never mentioned, I'm getting ~500 Koins for single fights in story and ~1500 for "bosses".
Test Your Luck though? A whopping 7 Koins for a match.
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
Fuck that. I don't intend to play online, so I'll just stay offline while I do the story mode.
I Wanna Be The Guy
U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!
I assume that was referring to ladder.
Fine Ham Abounds
Member
Krappy is misspelled in the thread title
Zombie James
Banned
If publishers want to shove F2P nonsense into retail games, they need to start drastically lowering the price of entry. You can't have it both ways.
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
Money talks.
Leafhopper
Banned
Basically.
TheSlySoul
Member
I assume the guy meant the tower mode. That is 10 fights with an end boss. 2500 coins seems reasonable with it.
You can't replay the story so they probably didn't change it because 1 try only.
For a cheat engine table? Give it a day or two.
Shift Breaker
Member
Hey, those things are expensive. Not to mention the grenades, the electricity bill for the batcave alone, plus the fuel for the batmobile. These aren't microtransactions, these are donations to the Batman fund. You don't want Batman to die, do you?
That would make sense for towers. I played a little bit last night and only got about 6000 Joins, but most of those were from level up and challenges.
Also, I didn't know that you can't replay story. Are you 100% positive you can't replay it? It gives the option to start over from the menu.
From bonuses (concept art, music..) to costumes, to BRUTALITIES....
Please vote with your wallets and DON'T BUY THIS GAME.
Just say no to microtransactions. They don't belong in console games, and especially not full-priced titles. When will our governments finally start treating this cancer as gambling (=automatic Adults Only rating, no commercials that can be seen by minors, etc)?!
Just say no to microtransactions. They don't belong in console games, and especially not full-priced titles. When will our governments finally start treating this cancer as gambling (=automatic Adults Only rating, no commercials that can be seen by minors, etc)?!
CaptainTiptop
Member
Seems like paying for micro-transactions is the way people would support micro-transactions.
Just buy the game if you want. It's great.
As long as they release a Mortal Kombat X Komplete Edition that I can buy on sale for $15 or less sometime in 2016... But it does suck for the early adopters. It sucks because people like me have no incentive to purchase the game in its launch state - better to grab it when the complete edition comes out later.
texhnolyze
Banned
We can't stop it, the direction of AAA games going this generation..
First thing that came to my mind.
First thing that came to my mind.
wastedyears
Member
Fatalities are a major part of the Mortal Kombat experience. This wasn't designed as an option. It is presented as an option, but it was intentionally designed to be an overlong, monotonous, drawn out process so that more and more people will pay extra money in order to unlock content. Content that they thought they were getting when they paid their $60 in the first place.
As much as I would like to, I won't be buying Mortal Kombat X because I won't support a developer who participates in this kind of business practice. Vote with your wallet.
Marvel
could never
Two points:
1. You have an entirely feature complete game without ever going into the crypt.
2. I finished story, played ~100 online matches, and I had enough Koins to buy all the costumes and a handful of brutalities, and still have like 20k koins left over. It's not a bad grind at all. If they had launched with these koin gain values, people wouldn't even have noticed.